Hey everyone, Miki here. Or should I say Pokemon Ranger Miki now?

Welcome back! Great to see that you're okay ^ o ^

@Anon

I guess you're right about that. I usually don't mind ppl having opposing views from me, I won't bother talking to them since it'll usually just be a pain. And tbh that is what's terrifying about the internet...I mean, who knows what the ppl you see on the streets do online...quite an effective paranoia fuel tbh.

And yes, what gave that away? ^ ^"

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@Rina
I just accept the fact that other people are on a different stage of their personal evolution and it helps me be more patient and understanding, especially with narrow-minded folks.

I like your long posts xD You should teach me - mine usually are short. :)

@ Rina

That's the thing. It's not just the internet... ^^
You just have to spend your time talking to people a little more often. You wouldn't believe what kinds of weird things you hear sometimes...
I grew up with a hell lot of people around me. Don't know if that's a good or a bad thing ^^
And I tend to listen to what they say... O_o
Sometimes it's sad, sometimes it's just funny... and sometimes it's outrageous! ;)

Don't know. It's probably not a rule but I have siblings. Male and female. A lot of cousins. And I also know my mom and dad. Love stories revolving around incest are just not all that enjoyable for me... as long as it's not some really distant relative... I just assume that maybe, for people without any siblings, the thought of romantic love between the aforementioned might sound appealing to some... when in real life it's actually not ^^
I love my family very much. Just not that way...

@Rina
When it comes to negative comments/people, they tend to be really good at being so visible, however, their number is still in the minority. :D

@Anon

What's your personal impression?

When I was living in my country, I often heard that German people were racist and conservative. And when I read stuffs related to Austria before I came to Austria, I learned that Austria was generally more conservative and more religious than Germany. Therefore, I was pretty surprised at first as I didn't expect Austria was this international. There are many Non-Austrian x Austrian couples here.

Is Germany more conservative than Austria when it comes to language? I heard that German language's a must for living/studying in Germany. I thought I would improve my German when living here, but not, it's not because people here speak a dialect, but because almost all courses I study here held in English, also, because almost everyone here could speak English very well.

I also heard that Chinese people were not so welcome in some European countries. It concerned me a bit as I look Chinese. But everything is alright here.

Don't know. It's probably not a rule but I have siblings. Male and female. A lot of cousins. And I also know my mom and dad. Love stories revolving around incest are just not all that enjoyable for me

Same. I really can't read/watch things that involve incest.

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I guess I'll try respond to everything...

Touhou

There was no introduction. Nobody ever was able to explain it to me. When I asked about it, all I got was that it is a bullet hell shooter. But when I wanted to know how different girls play into it or how we know all we know about them, all I could get was silence.

Code Geass

I loved first season. Second one had it's problem, and as Kyonne pointed out they had to rewrite entire plot discarding everything that first season was building to which sucked a lot (jps entertainment has its own issues as we can see), but I still enjoyed it. It had good moments and ending was very moving. Sure it had problems and some cheesy things happening, but first season had it too. Not as prominent, but in first case I enjoyed series too much to complain about them and second had me already won with characters so I just rolled with it.

Also I agree. Series without continuing plot can be easier judged on the 1 season basic, but w/e all seasons tells 1 coherent story or not, you can say that 1 season was much better or worse than other. In case of R2 I don't think it dived right into terrible category, but it definitely had bigger problems so I can see why some could say it was bad. Sure, if you just watch first one you end on a cliffhanger, but that isn't necessary a bad thing as you can just see it as a open ending and since actual sequel pretty much hand-waved entire conclusion of first season, I can't see this approach as a bad one.

And whatever it was good or not, we can always make fun of it.

Boku no Pico

Agree. It was a running gag for so long, so even my friends decided to watch it together for lolz and it was ok. I mean it was ridiculous over the top trap porn, but I expected something like that after all the warnings. I guess it was so weird it just traumatized a lot people and got a status of a title to troll people with. Kinda like linking people to Rick Roll.

Sakura Trick

If anyone is bored here and on the next page we had a long discussion about that last episode and I give all my problems with it there.

HoTD

I liked first episode. It set serious mood, was nicely animated, had good soundtrack and I agree the ending from first episode fit so perfectly and was great song in general, it is only ending I remember. Rest of show, not so much. I understand (or at least heard) that the contrast of zombies with ecchi, tits and over the top was the point, but that was definitely not kind of show I tend to enjoy. Still watched it till the end and of course it ends with them progressing nowhere, no second season, pls buy manga. Well it wasn't terrible for sure, I just wasn't the target audience or couldn't enjoy it for what it is. I still don't understand what happened at the end though, but couldn't be bothered to re-watch it (why they EMP'ed all energy in japan again?). Unlike so many other shows though, it will be forever remember thanks to matrix boobs.

Utoptia posted:

Guesse we're three then; well I'm not that shy but I hate dancing, I hate getting drunk (well, even drinking) and I can't even dance properly. Usually, my presence is enough to kill the mood ^^.

Yea, I'm not as much shy, but I just suck at it. I'm really not the type to enjoy going to loud parties to dance and drink all night. I don't drink in the first place.

Utoptia posted:

I guess everyone has its own definition of "bad".

That is pretty much true.

Rina posted:

I believe there're 3 forms of good; personal good, true good, and overhyped good.

On another note, I believe that personal enjoyment should take priority over anything.

There is value in following the masses sometimes, but I don't think that the voices and opinions of the masses should drown out the individual preference; be different, find that genre of anime that you particularly like and just stick with it as a guideline, evaluate anime based on your own enjoyment instead trying to fit in with the crowd. That is what I follow nowadays and IMO, gives a much more fulfilling experience to enjoy this medium.

Sorry I really wanted to give you a proper respond to it, but no matter how I try to slice it, I have no clue where to start and how to say it naturally. Basically I agree with what you said here. All in all it is just all a opinion. Art is subjective, so there is no right answer. You should enjoy whatever you like and it doesn't matter if others say it is good or bad, it matters what it is like to you. There is no objective truth about it. You can say there are "rules" how to make good movie or write good book, but it is all based on what most people consider good hence, it is some kind of consensus. If you just happen to like something that others think is bad, it doesn't matter because for you it is good. That is why for example music is much harder to define what is good or bad, because there are no set rules for it and there shouldn't be. That is why when something is consider by a lot a good or bad it become a problem, because even if you don't agree you feel like your opinion is being diminished. I always used to just focus on my enjoyment and didn't bother what other thinks. There are times when I can see something is bad but can still enjoy it or when something is good, but it just doesn't appeal to me. So all in all criticizing something is ok, but we shouldn't insult each other over it. Just respectfully disagree.

I think you would agree a lot with him, he does analytic videos of anime and is famous for hating on popular stuff and having very unique and controversial opinions. He doesn't trust anyone about what is good or bad, that is why he watches all anime that comes every season and judges them himself, because that is the only sure way to not miss anything good. Not that I took all my knowledge from him and always agree, but he does have some good points, so I'd mostly just try to repeat what I heard him say on his vlog channel. He recently did some vlogs about that exact stuff, so I'll just link you them and you can listen when you are bored:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgSB83t9vtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roxzqaq0IMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ey7J7GEERQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQbJEG2BqIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR1JZcgYhUk
(there might some other videos in which he mentioned it but I don't remember now and don't have time to go through all of them)

So it won't seem like there is no my opinion in it at all, I'll give a example. Elfen Lied is considered to be pretty bad show with pointless nudity, having gore for the sake of gore and having shitty plot. Most people don't take it too seriously and see it more as it is so bad it is good. I loved this show. It is one of my all time favorites. It had really good pace, the mystery part was well done, I really liked and related to mc (Lucy of course) and plot along with ending was really strong and emotional. Not to mention great soundtrack. Nudity and gore fit with the story and I just didn't focus on it in the first place, as the plot was what grabbed me. It doesn't mean it didn't have good fights or clever moments. So yea, say what you want, I will still enjoy this show no matter what. Oh also it is my ultimate example that anime adaptation can be better than manga that it is based on.

On a follow-up topic, yes there're issues in the industry and I would rather not have the generic pandering het/ecchi/harem anime being made every season, but these are issues that will not be fixed anytime soon nor do I think ever will be fixed. As much as I want these to disappear completely, I won't entirely fault someone for liking them but would rather just ignore them and let be.

I feel you on that too, but they are just too popular/easy money so there is no way they will ever stop making them. Good for us it doesn't mean that is the only thing being made now. He also made a video about it, in case you are curious.

Rina posted:

And for the record I don't agree with everything that goes on in the "feminism" side either, the article I read today about how "Moe" in the anime industry is being misogynistic towards women was ridiculous considering said writer doesn't even understand the appeal of "Moe".

Let's not bring here feminists and SJW which seems to devolve and regress in our society. I watched too much dumb videos about them recently and I'm honestly terrified people like that exist and seems to become more and more influential. What a great time to be alive where your skin color and gender matter more than your personality and believes. Incidentally he also did a video on this article in which he pretty much says everything that is wrong with it. And yea, I'm also a living prove what they wrote there is bs cos I'm both female and I enjoy moe anime.

oliver posted:

Don't know. It's probably not a rule but I have siblings. Male and female. A lot of cousins. And I also know my mom and dad. Love stories revolving around incest are just not all that enjoyable for me

Same. I really can't read/watch things that involve incest.

I have brother, but as a lesbian, I never had to worry about falling in love with him ;P That being said I guess it depends. Most of the time the siblings falling for each other is based on fact that one of them is just perfect material for a boyfriend/girlfriend. Other times, I honestly don't care. Not like I self insert myself into the situation and imagine that is me fucking my brother or something. As long as the couple is cute, I can read incest just fine.

EDIT/ Crap, I totally forgot... As you probably could notice I like to watch/read analytic stuff. It gives you stuff to think about and sometimes is pretty entertaining. Since you like TWD I can recommend you 2 videos to watch. He does theories on games and now started doing on movies/TVs as well. He makes mistakes and isn't always right, but is entertaining most of the times. Also his jokes are terrible and it become part of show's charm at this point. Anyway here you have one that actually brings out a pretty good point and second one which is interesting as well, but he fucks up his math twice. First when he takes the longest possible time for first and shortest possible time for second. He should either take middle time in both or at least explain why he decided to choose those times. Second when he applies casper's law at the end, which he already did. He said himself using casper's law on normal body zombies would died at least twice already, so he used our corpses to calculated time of decompose for zombies in series which was already accounting for casper's law since they were out in the open entire time. And even ignoring that, he fucked up by dividing only final result, he should apply it to entire time and then take final result from it.

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Rina posted:

like seriously, take a gander at the Ghostbusters trailer and try to tell me with a straight face that the dislikes on the trailer were made because of the content inside and not the outrage coming from the fact that it had a female cast.

For sure some had issue with full female cast, but I'm sure most of it was because trailer was bad. I never watched any ghostbuster movies and I thought trailer was terrible.

Now I regret mentioning it. You sounded reasonable, but now I see feminism influenced you too much already. You really need something to calm yourself down cos you get heated up way too easily. And your last edit just shows that it makes you go dangerously close into self-destruction, you really need to chill out more.

^ I don't think a terrible trailer is the cause of it becoming the most disliked trailer on YT, honestly the odds of that happening is way too small.

Also for the record, I hate both sides equally at the absolute worst; such squabbles are immature and quite honestly pointless, it makes humanity feel like a bunch of primates obssessed with having knives at eachother's throats. But you know what, lets agree to disagree here.

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Rina posted:

^ I don't think a terrible trailer is the cause of it becoming the most disliked trailer on YT, honestly the odds of that happening is way too small.

It was a beloved movie having millions of fans and it was just being remake for the sake of cash grab. I think that might be the mine reason. If the trailer was any good I'm sure it would be still have a lot dislikes but it wouldn't be most disliked trailer ever.

^ Calling a remake a cash grab can be said for a lot of remakes tbh, considering that's what Hollywood does. And honestly the trailer or whatever was in it wasn't even that bad; it's average at worst, but I doubt it's impact on the dislike ratio was that significant.

Again, if we're just going to dance the tango of "Im right. No, Im right" then we should just drop this topic because it won't go anywhere and it'll just be wasting our time. That said, I appreciate that you posting those Digibro/TWD videos and I'll get to watching them when I have the time; and for the most part, I do apologize for getting a bit heated up while writing that post.

And on that note for some final clarifcation on my post, I am not pro-feminsm or anything, I just see them as the lesser of 2 evils that exist; if anything, I just want to see humanity grow out of it's differences and treat eachother equally with respect, and it's extremely infruiating to see that things are hardly anywhere near that level.

To frame things in perspective, I want this world to become something like Star Trek, where humans can work together as one without conflicts of the past, I think an outcome like that would be infinitely better than what we have now.

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You sounded reasonable, but now I see feminism influenced you too much already.

This has to be the most eye rolling thing I have read all day.

Edit: Also there are different types of feminists so seeing this kind of blanketting is a bit disheartening.

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^ This is what happens when passionate people meet (`･ω･´)

I want this world to become something like Star Trek, where humans can work together as one without conflicts of the past, I think an outcome like that would be infinitely better than what we have now.

Maybe we need something like the Titans in Shingeki no Kyojin ^^
A threat from the outside would help to bring mankind together... but on the other hand... conflicts would still exist... Striving for perfection is good but we'll never get there, I guess.
It's just sad when people even forget to strive... ;)

Maybe we need something like the Titans in Shingeki no Kyojin ^^
A threat from the outside would help to bring mankind together... but on the other hand... conflicts would still exist... Striving for perfection is good but we'll never get there, I guess.
It's just sad when people even forget to strive... ;)

I guess this is true, but I'd rather not see an apocalypse now scenario as the way to end all conflicts if possible...

yawn Anyways, if anything, this has been a rather interesting conversation regardless of what transpired in between. I'll just leave this quote here and come back later,

"Generally speaking, coexistence is better than a fight to the death"

(10 muffins for anyone who knows what series this is from without the power of google)

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And 2 videos on TWD. For a person who edit x times, you sure doesn't check others edits and I even re-posted it to make sure it won't be missed.

Irony is that I mentioned it off-handly, but opened with let's not talk about it and then your went on a rant talking only about it. I thought in case anyone will want to discuss it, we will be able to at least have civil discussion about. I was naive to think that, cos of course you can't talk about it in the civil manner. Not to mention it proved the things I was afraid off. This whole thing exhausted me too much. I doubt I will post here again.

ZuljinRaynor posted:

Edit: Also there are different types of feminists so seeing this kind of blanketting is a bit disheartening.

My bad. Mental gap. Third wave feminism. Here you go.

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I saw it Ulquiorra (well, I saw pretty much every lesbian movie).
It's more like a mindgame, a thriller than a real lesbian movie, but it is pretty good imho. Eva Green is stunning though.

She was gorgeous in this movie. And her last part with Fiamma was too brutal

Btw whats your top 10 lesbian movies?

My top 10 ? hmm

Well, obviously in the first place comes the masterpiece Mulholland Drive.
And then, in order :
-Carol
-Naissance des pieuvres (water lilies)
-Children's hour (bitterness ahead)
and then, not in order :

-Saving face
-Circumstance
-Imagine me and you
-Kiss myg
-La belle saison (summertime)
- I can't think straight / the world unseen (couldn't choose)

Honorable mention : Viola di mare; Lost and Delirious, My summer of love.
But I'm saving a place for ah-ga-si, that I'm dying to see. I also look forward to watching Barash and Broken gardenias.

I loved Naissance des Pieuvres too. And if I might barge in, I rec Jack & Diane, that's a movie that I greatly enjoyed. (Also, Juno Temple ♥)

That's some good tastes here @none:)

Also, I'm supposed to be the anarchist bastard here, so why does it feel like everyone is harsher than me ?
By the way Anon according to the latest scan of SNK, an advanced civilisation living outside the wall is confirmed, and titans being a creation of humans seems close to the reality

Edit : Nevri, don't leave us already, it's hard enough to get new casual posters here, now that you opened Pandora's thread, you can't just leave like that, uh. Let's talk about lesbian movies, since it seems to be quite of a peaceful matter !

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@ Utoptia

That's some good tastes here :)

Yeah, right? ^^
None is my new favorite recommendation person ✌(◕‿-)✌
Love their taste!

And I know about SnK! I just didn't wanna spoil anything.
I love that series.

@ Nevri

Come on, don't leave!
Disagreements happen everywhere... doesn't mean you have to leave.(♥ε♥)
Here, I give you a none feminist hug (っ⌒‿⌒)っ
(◦’ںˉ◦)v

@ Rina

"Generally speaking, coexistence is better than a fight to the death"

Don't know that quote, sorry! But it's a good one.

Utoptia posted:

That's some good tastes here @flips:)

It was posted by none though.

^
Since when were you under the impression I didn't write none ?

^Editing... best invention ever! d (^‿^✿)

Utoptia posted:

^
Since when were you under the impression I didn't write none ?

Since I looked at it and read flips. Must have misread it then ;P

You sounded reasonable, but now I see feminism influenced you too much already.

Wow, holy crap.

I'm just gonna walk away, nothing good comes from this.

° That war already ended.
The white flag was raised ;)

Anon99 posted:

Here, I give you a none feminist hug (っ⌒‿⌒)っ

Normal one is fine. hugs back

^ Can't get enough hugs (＾∇＾)

° That war already ended.
The white flag was raised ;)

More along the lines of "this will be a pain to continue, time to move on"

And Im glad you liked the quote, its one of my standing life pillars.

the world shall know true pain uses Rinnegan