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whiplash

joined Jan 17, 2024

My thinking is that the double-date offer is to show (prove?) something or other to Sakuragawa, although I'm not quite sure what. It's rather hard to know exactly what she's thinking at this point. Sayori is shown to be someone who prioritizes her choice of college and the approval of her parents over Mizuki, and there isn't exactly anything solidly tying her to Mizuki, whether physical, social, or emotional (besides S), so it's hard to imagine that she's trapped against her will in an abusive relationship with someone who lives off in an apartment somewhere and has no excuse to see Sayori, someone who lives with her parents. So something else happened. Sayori's also a rather crafty person. I think she has something to say that words can't convey.

On my second reread right now I remmebered how in my first read of the chapter, I read "All that could make the flowers more beautiful is if senpai were laying here" as something incredibly yandere, aka her saying "if senpai's senpais corpse was laying in the flowers" here, before understanding what she actually meant...or maybe was my initial read correct? I also didn't realize how possessive the following pages actually were until now.

Nnnnno... The very next panel shows her mental image of Mizuki laying in the flowers in a completely normal, playful, and notably alive way. I don't really see anything more possessive than what this manga has shown an S relationship to be, although I'll give you that something can be said about how obsessive that is in general. I wouldn't say yandere but there's somewhat of a creeping saccharine darkness over the whole story.

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Pov_youre_a_triple_mugger
joined Feb 19, 2016

Reading through the chapter again, I think the point that Sayori is trying to get across more is the importance of communication. Perhaps we'll see how Mizuki and her were able to actually work through things, how this moment was a sudden loss of composure for Mizuki, and how they worked it out. Maybe they didn't, though that brings into question the whole double date.

What I think is more important is that, despite all the secrets and the obvious intimacy between the two of them, there seems to be a mismatch in what the relationship means for them. We have Sayori's perspective: it was something special, something secret, something no one else had, and that put her above others. It gave her a sense of specialness or even superiority that let her feel like she wasn't just another face in a crowd. She obviously also likes (liked?) Mizuki romantically, but we also see that as she's considering her future she seems quite okay with letting go of this if it means she gets a new special feeling. The college Mizuki gets into is apparently nothing special, and as much as Sayori seems to want to appease her parents, she also openly states she hates the idea of going to some random, no name college, even if Mizuki is there and waiting for her. Sayori desperately wants to feel special, even if she struggles to take the steps for herself, and this overrides her feelings for Mizuki in a way that seems like she doesn't even really consider what Mizuki's feelings are.

And what do we really know about Mizuki's feelings? She obviously felt very strongly about the two of them's relationship. She went to a college she doesn't seem to enjoy, began renting a two-bedroom apartment by herself, all for a degree she's been shown to not be particularly skilled in, all for the sake of being able to be together with Sayori. Sayori brings up the fact that people talk about Mizuki behind her back, make fun of her, call her names. We don't know if she's outright bullied, but it certainly seems like her relationship with Sayori is the one thing in her life that brings her unmitigated joy. She probably enjoys making art, even if she isn't very good at it, but that brings dismissal and ridicule. Sayori accepts her, loves her, and brings her joy that no one else can take away.

Except Sayori can rip it away from her. To have the sole source of happiness, of joy, of acceptance in your life suddenly come to you and try and rip away that warmth, all so they can go somewhere else to feel special about getting into a "good college", after everything you've done? Everything you've sacrificed and committed to get to this point? Sayori herself said she liked the idea, even if we know that Sayori didn't really think it was realistic. The two of them have utterly failed to communicate just what this relationship means to them. Sayori oversold her investment in their relationship, and I can't exactly blame Mizuki for blowing up like this. I don't condone the methods, but I can understand the reasoning.

I think the important thing is that Kasumi needs to learn how to convey what she's feeling. She needs to open up more about her insecurities and seek reassurance from Haruyo. But, that's a difficult thing to do. Her friend's suicide is still hanging large, and we still know very few details about that, or about their relationship.

I do like how these things aren't entirely cleanly resolved. Haruyo doesn't just swoop in, get Kasumi to suddenly open up, and then solve all her worries. There's a realism to Kasumi's self-loathing and Haruyo's inability to dig into it and resolve it. When Kasumi starts being distant, Haruyo simply tries to brute force closing the gap with physicality, because she doesn't really know what else to do. She's only a middle schooler, for God's sake. There's an emotional immaturity to all the characters involved, and it feels very real, and on rereading Vol2, I think I really like it.

I'll certainly be much more aware, I didn't catch much of the darker implications in earlier chapters (aside from the suicide but that's not really an implication), but like others have said I think, or at least hope, this will be a story about breaking a cycle of tarnished relationships.

joined Sep 10, 2023

uhhh there's no meme... take off your clothes

Hanasakukawaii_small
joined Mar 20, 2014

Well, that took a turn!

joined Jan 14, 2020

Instead of Sayori moving into Mizuki's 2BR, Mizuki should plan to move into Sayori's 1BR. Sayori can go to a good college and work on her career, Mizuki can be the housewife. I'm sure that will fix all their problems!!1!

Eterna%20rinebow%20small
joined Oct 20, 2017

I think my brain got overwhelmed with new information yesterday because I feel more okay about all of this after sleeping on it. Fuck it, we ball

joined Feb 24, 2023

That went from 0 to a thousand extremely quickly

1443460234809
joined Jan 16, 2016

The letters may be like a curse. The ones between Kasumi and Haruyo are probably benign. Sayori mentioned there betting letters before, those were probably more dark. Maybe even a meta-commentary on old school class S.

Mizuki, who may have had nothing going on in her life, found it and make it her whole life. Like a total LARP. Notably she wasnt good at art, but had expensive supplies. And went to an art college even though she apparently hated it. Went to salons to maintain her hair, and used makeup which was against rules, all to shape her image to be the ideal LARP girl. So she transformed her whole life to a sort of fictional artsy dainty girl and snapped when Sayori went off script. Kind of like Niji from 'Our "Love" is Disgusting' by Usui Shio, actually.

Wild hail-mary theory: Kasumi's old friend who commited suicide was also involved with these letters, and because she didnt get her desired school, either because she couldn't be with her 'sister' who was at that school, and/or the failure to get into that school contradicted the character she was supposed to play, she killed herself because of that.

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20220125_003513
joined Jan 30, 2013

Oh no..

Prprcharlotte_8
joined Apr 1, 2013

I wasn't expecting this... it's getting way too dark suddenly

50cbf1fa94f751154ffee73259f4d20e
joined Jun 3, 2023

Im curios what do you guys think is Haruyo's hair color?

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joined Mar 9, 2024

^ Not the slightest idea, could be white, gray or gold.

Satsuaki
noighd
joined Oct 9, 2021

Im curios what do you guys think is Haruyo's hair color?

White like the haruyo rose.

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joined Mar 9, 2024

^ What does the text on this pic mean? The author is not updating for a while?

Satsuaki
noighd
joined Oct 9, 2021

^ What does the text on this pic mean? The author is not updating for a while?

It's an old break announcement from a few chapters ago, don't worry. (I specifically didn't translate it because I thought it would be confusing but I should've just explained)
Next chapter is still scheduled for the 11th. Though Igarashi is planning to move into a new apartment when it gets colder so there should be a break in a few chapters.

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joined Mar 9, 2024

^ Oh :3

joined Apr 16, 2022

Im curios what do you guys think is Haruyo's hair color?

White like the haruyo rose.

Kasumi better not fumble her

50cbf1fa94f751154ffee73259f4d20e
joined Jun 3, 2023

Im curios what do you guys think is Haruyo's hair color?

White like the haruyo rose.

Yeah recently I checked the author's profile and was really surprised she had silver hair, so I was curious how other readers expected her to be, personally I imagined her blond

Images
joined Apr 4, 2012

onee-sama gon' fuck u up now

Satsuaki
noighd
joined Oct 9, 2021

What a perfect pair of role models. Box cutter? You're delusional, nothing like that in this sweet and pure manga.

I didn't expect Kasumi's mistake to be resolved so neatly but AriSaku likes to surprise with its drama, in both fun and fearsome ways. Though Igarashi is acting excited about part 2 again and the editor's note more than hints where it's going. We're in the 1st chapter of volume 3 so it's setting the tone for what's to come.

Speaking of surprising, that was a soft 好き but there's no way to interpret it besides romantic love out in the open now. It was a little ambiguous how seriously Haruyo was taking their romance but it clearly means a lot to her, more than just a game. The senpais also casually refer to their S relationship in past tense as if it were naturally the introduction to a real relationship. The only hesitancy AriSaku shows towards lesbian relationships is in Kasumi's self-loathing, which is interesting for being so Class S inspired.

Mizuki's description of secrets sounds an awful lot like there's something she feels the urge to share. I don't completely agree with her - some secrets are either too damaging or mundane to have any desire to reveal - but it's true they're a paradoxical thing. And it's revealing of everyone's characters. Mizuki has her dark side she seems to want to let out, Sayori may be rebellious but she clearly values order and clearing the air over anyone getting hurt, Kasumi bears hers inwards and stews on it to her own harm. Haruyo... well she's happy and that's most important of all.
Please keep her that way.

We're now onto half-chapters, releasing every 2 weeks.

According to the mangaka, Haruyo at the start of the date was like a dog being tricked into thinking she's going on a walk, then taken to the vet.

Beatorokken
joined Feb 23, 2014

I hope all the darkness is projected on the senpais here, leave the baby gays alone...

joined Feb 1, 2021

Not explaining the end of the last chapter? I sentence the author to cheeksmooshing.

Old%20man%20prof
joined Oct 25, 2022

Author is cruel to leave us hanging with last chapter's cliffhanger! T_T

This was a very sweet chapter though. Haruyo's expressions continue to crack me up. Although based on the last chapter, and the ominous note on the title page, I suspect the next half-chapter won't be quite so wholesome.

Img_0215
joined Jul 29, 2017

Man, this one really has that “cute text/scary subtext” thing down cold, doesn’t it?

I keep thinking we’re going to keep finding out “Oh, yeah, there’s one more person involved” until we come to a serial killer.

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