Seems interesting. I'll read a few chapters before I make any accusations about what kind of series this will be. I didn't know this was the author of the other recently released LN. That's cool.

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Reading the comments and man, this is why we are never getting a Real ntr yuri (because this one is netori which is ironically very loved contrary to ntr) much less an netorase yuri

Wonder if people have problem with NTR here overall or because she want to "steal" a girl from a guy.

I know that according to some poll made years ago this site is like 50/50 straight men and lesbians, but I wonder how many people here treat Yuri (or homosexuality as a whole) as their fetish and only come here to fulfill it, but are homophobic in real life (so scenario like that could get them uncomfortable). Fetishism connected with homophobia is actually a surprising common thing among fujoshi so I sometimes wonder how it is for Yuri fans.

Maga offtop

I suspect very few of those people stick around for long and continue to read yuri manga on this site. There's next to no yuri that would appeal to that type of misogynistic perspective.

The more likely answer is a lot of people can't stand to see cheating, even in fiction.
If anything, I'd suspect there may be some that'd find it more tolerable for a character to cheat on a male partner with a female lover than cheating where all characters involved are female. As an extension of many having an overall distaste for males showing up in yuri.

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I suspect very few of those people stick around for long and continue to read yuri manga on this site. There's next to no yuri that would appeal to that type of misogynistic perspective.

The more likely answer is a lot of people can't stand to see cheating, even in fiction.
If anything, I'd suspect there may be some that'd find it more tolerable for a character to cheat on a male partner with a female lover than cheating where all characters involved are female. As an extension of many having an overall distaste for males showing up in yuri.

I think actually, people with "it's just a fetish" could be ok with story where girl got stolen from a guy by other girls since it's "not serious". I know way too many men who said that they would hate it if their wife/gf cheated on them with a guy but be ok with their GFS/wives cheat with a girl, because it's "not real" and maybe they could even "do a threesome". "Interesting" enough I know a guy who became extremely homophobic after wife left him for a woman (after he was cheating on her for years).

...can we just not act like there is community unity on NTR, even if its girl-steals-from-boy? I've seen it swing either way in this forum and I couldn't tell what tips the scales.

Antithesis to Moedred: if (male-targeted) NTR is all about the anguish of having your lover taken away, why "dampen" that emotional impact? I rather believe the lack of full-yuri NTR lies in the notion that yuri is supposedly the "purest" form of love, and until further research I withhold judgement on which gender to jingoistically blame on that.

Obligatory bit on the actual story: Feelings realization. Me likey. Sadly with the final pages, I fear it won't stay as close-to-life and introspective like that. But eh, I'll keep reading as long as it doesn't devolve into mere romcom smut.

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I'm not expecting much from this one, but I think the reason it's upsetting to people is this weird tonal whiplash it produces - for the most part from the start it kinda looks like it will be your run of the mill fluffy yuri, but suddenly it just switches to dumbest porn logic imaginable :P I could kinda see why realizing your love after vigorous masturbation could be seen as kinda funny to someone, but then she literally goes to "let's do that stupid porn thing to win her over", so I have absolutely zero expectation for anything. Even if this is going to be just porn, it's not even the good porn.

That boy she fawned over could be a girl to begin with and it wouldn't change a thing for me.

And yes I didn't pay attention to the tags, so maybe it's just all my fault :P

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When you think about reason for non-MC girl to fell in love with a guy is crazy. "He picked up some money" lol. I know love-at-first-sight, but she is ready to confess immediately. Like the hell.

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Reading the comments and man, this is why we are never getting a Real ntr yuri (because this one is netori which is ironically very loved contrary to ntr) much less an netorase yuri

Wonder if people have problem with NTR here overall or because she want to "steal" a girl from a guy.

I know that according to some poll made years ago this site is like 50/50 straight men and lesbians, but I wonder how many people here treat Yuri (or homosexuality as a whole) as their fetish and only come here to fulfill it, but are homophobic in real life (so scenario like that could get them uncomfortable). Fetishism connected with homophobia is actually a surprising common thing among fujoshi so I sometimes wonder how it is for Yuri fans.

Maga offtop

I suspect very few of those people stick around for long and continue to read yuri manga on this site. There's next to no yuri that would appeal to that type of misogynistic perspective.

The more likely answer is a lot of people can't stand to see cheating, even in fiction.
If anything, I'd suspect there may be some that'd find it more tolerable for a character to cheat on a male partner with a female lover than cheating where all characters involved are female. As an extension of many having an overall distaste for males showing up in yuri.

Yeah I think cheating in fiction is a divisive subject matter, some people enjoy it in stories, others don't. The whole idea of people not enjoying this because of a girl being stolen from a boy never even occurred to me as a possibility until Moedred said it, which I feel like Moedred is leaning a lot on assumption of why people might simply not enjoy cheating regardless of gender and sexuality. Maybe someone here thinks along the lines of what Moedred is suggesting but I really don't see that being a common case in the Dynasty community. I also strongly dislike the implication from Moedred that anyone who dislikes the themes of NTR/Cheating/So Fourth here is, 1: a man, 2: is a sexist pig that doesn't see lesbians as real, 3: is here for hetero romance.

Moedred is way off the mark for me at least. Plus I don't think I should have to defend that I dislike NTR/Cheating/Adjacent and so fourth regardless of gender and sexuality. Sometimes I can read through a story with those elements to see what happens, but I generally try to avoid them when I can. Also sure this story could be tamer than I'm thinking, like how BlueStallion44 suggested, but at the moment this 1st chapter gave me a really bad impression. As I said in my previous post, "the first chapter reads to me like a story that's planning on sexual orientation conversation through sexual assault". Which is disgusting to me regardless of gender and sexuality, and I shouldn't have to defend that view point either.

I'm not expecting anyone to defend why they don't like NTR, hell I don't not like it, I just wonder why people have such visceral reaction to exactly this doujin. Does it always happen or this manga is an outlier for some reason? I'm on this site for years, but honestly I didn't took much part in title or image discussions until recently.

If someone felt I accused them of sexism or something similar I can just say sorry, it wasn't my intentions. Maybe it just my slightly unhealthy fascination with human psychology and source of behavior went overboard and made me analyze it waaay too much that it should.

Hell, If you use "sorry if someone felt offended" It's really sound like you blaming someone else for being offended, not admitting your own faults, isn't it? Even when you are honest.

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I'm not expecting anyone to defend why they don't like NTR, hell I don't not like it, I just wonder why people have such visceral reaction to exactly this doujin. Does it always happen or this manga is an outlier for some reason? I'm on this site for years, but honestly I didn't took much part in title or image discussions until recently.

If someone felt I accused them of sexism or something similar I can just say sorry, it wasn't my intentions. Maybe it just my slightly unhealthy fascination with human psychology and source of behavior went overboard and made me analyze it waaay too much that it should.

Hell, If you use "sorry if someone felt offended" It's really sound like you blaming someone else for being offended, not admitting your own faults, isn't it?

I think I understand where you're coming from now, thanks. Sorry if I came across as harsh myself due to feeling frustrated. I'm someone who is generally flexible in their sexuality, and I view myself as non-binary and they/them/any, where I don't mind any pronouns used unless it feels like it's done in a disingenuous way. Which felt like I was lumped into your theory of anyone that might take issue with this being a man that only doesn't want the girl being taken away from the boy, and I felt immediately repulsed when I read that. In my experience stories such as this are generally divisive, though I ultimately can't speak for anyone else, only that I have a generally strong dislike for cheating/ntr/cucking and related, and a strong hate for conversion which this gave me an impression of being that kind of story. Maybe my strong feelings there are having me read more into the story than I should, all I can say is my first impression was bad.

This is a manga where the protagonist realizes she's gay immediately after -- and because of -- masturbating yet people are complaining about the ethical implications. What has this site come to smh my head

Are you serious? "It's ecchi so just turn brain off"? People typically isn't into cucking

If you don't like a lesbian cucking a man (ignoring they aren't even in a relationship) you may be on the wrong website friend

Bros acting like it being goofy takes away from the fact that she’s (potentially) planning on assaulting her friend without consent.

"potentially" doing a lot of work for you here

I'm not expecting anyone to defend why they don't like NTR, hell I don't not like it, I just wonder why people have such visceral reaction to exactly this doujin. Does it always happen or this manga is an outlier for some reason? I'm on this site for years, but honestly I didn't took much part in title or image discussions until recently.

It's kind of an outlier. This manga, for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

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I'm not expecting anyone to defend why they don't like NTR, hell I don't not like it, I just wonder why people have such visceral reaction to exactly this doujin.

I kinda stated it above, but I really think it's just because it feels like a bait-and-switch, maybe unintentionally - first 20 pages feel relatively normal :P If you include like next 10 it's getting a bit horny and stupid but whatever, on the last two pages it drops the bomb out of the blue, completely spelled out with zero nuance.

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I'm not expecting anyone to defend why they don't like NTR, hell I don't not like it, I just wonder why people have such visceral reaction to exactly this doujin.

I kinda stated it above, but I really think it's just because it feels like a bait-and-switch, maybe unintentionally - first 20 pages feel relatively normal :P If you include like next 10 it's getting a bit horny and stupid but whatever, on the last two pages it drops the bomb out of the blue, completely spelled out with zero nuance.

Yeah she suddenly pulled an NTR book from her shelf and said, Separate reality from fiction? Perish the thought!

Though I realize in hindsight the series is also named in typical NTR fashion...

It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I don't like the cheating angle in that either though I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels like comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

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It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

Imo "I'm in love with him because he picked up my money" also carries strong comphet overtones and the protagonist of this manga is certainly an idiot lol.

It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

Imo "I'm in love with him because he picked up my money" also carries strong comphet overtones and the protagonist of this manga is certainly an idiot lol.

That's fair. For me I got a worse impression from this I think due to the framing and NTR angle being so specifically stated in this story. If she simply went, wait don't date that guy, I love you and I can prove I can be a good partner!, or something along those lines it would be fine. However it's off putting that this story at the very end had her go oh yeah it's cucking time and then she cucked all over the place...I apologize for the incredibly stupid Morbius joke but I couldn't help myself lol

It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

Imo "I'm in love with him because he picked up my money" also carries strong comphet overtones and the protagonist of this manga is certainly an idiot lol.

That's fair. For me I got a worse impression from this I think due to the framing and NTR angle being so specifically stated in this story. If she simply went, wait don't date that guy, I love you and I can prove I can be a good partner!, or something along those lines it would be fine. However it's off putting that this story at the very end had her go oh yeah it's cucking time and then she cucked all over the place...I apologize for the incredibly stupid Morbius joke but I couldn't help myself lol

But the friend isn't dating anyone at the moment. We don't even know if this guy likes her or even knows her. He just helped out once. No one is being cucked. At the moment the MC is just using random stuff she saw online (in a magazine) to try and get her friend to like her. The MC seems just as silly.

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It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

Imo "I'm in love with him because he picked up my money" also carries strong comphet overtones and the protagonist of this manga is certainly an idiot lol.

That's fair. For me I got a worse impression from this I think due to the framing and NTR angle being so specifically stated in this story. If she simply went, wait don't date that guy, I love you and I can prove I can be a good partner!, or something along those lines it would be fine. However it's off putting that this story at the very end had her go oh yeah it's cucking time and then she cucked all over the place...I apologize for the incredibly stupid Morbius joke but I couldn't help myself lol

But the friend isn't dating anyone at the moment. We don't even know if this guy likes her or even knows her. He just helped out once.

I'm not the one that titled the series in typical NTR fashion and had the MC pull an NTR book out. Even if the NTR set up doesn't hold a lot of water, it's still seemingly the author's intent. Maybe the author author wanted to make diet NTR, but NTR to me is all the same to me, simply not my cup of soda, diet or otherwise.

oh yeah it's cucking time and then she cucked all over the place...

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I apologize for the incredibly stupid Morbius joke but I couldn't help myself lol

no apologizing, not only was this funny but also spot on

But the friend isn't dating anyone at the moment. We don't even know if this guy likes her or even knows her. He just helped out once. No one is being cucked.

That's how she framed it though, doesn't even matter if it's true or not :P Overall it's plenty of reasons why this strongly doesn't appeal to plenty of people.

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Are you serious? "It's ecchi so just turn brain off"? People typically isn't into cucking

People "typically" aren't into yuri either, yet here we are, on a site full of people who like yuri.

Some people like NTR too.

no apologizing, not only was this funny but also spot on

Thanks lol

I'm not the one that titled the series in typical NTR fashion and had the MC pull an NTR book out. Even if the NTR set up doesn't hold a lot of water, it's still seemingly the author's intent. Maybe the author author wanted to make diet NTR, but NTR to me is all the same to me, simply not my cup of soda, diet or otherwise.

That's how she framed it though, doesn't even matter if it's true or not :P Overall it's plenty of reasons why this strongly doesn't appeal to plenty of people.

So it really is you two have a strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically? I guess that's fair enough, though it does make me wonder why you even read the manga in the first place.

I just wonder why people have such visceral reaction to exactly this doujin. Does it always happen or this manga is an outlier for some reason? I'm on this site for years, but honestly I didn't took much part in title or image discussions until recently.

If you haven't been participating in the community here, where do you get off making a scattershot accusation of the community being homophobic? That's very rude and arrogant of you.

And yes, I remember lots of complaints about cheating and 'NTR' in comments on other manga. I just wonder why you think people are reacting to exactly this doujin when you say you don't know what's been happening in discussions elsewhere.

So it really is you two have a strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically?

Kinda yes? It just signals to me that the rest of this series will run on porn logic with a porn-brained character, should I now assume that the rest of the series will be magically about something else? I'm not even necessarily opposed to have cheating in stories but this one went for this specific term, displaying it front and center, it surely means something.

I will probably continue with this one a bit but my expectations are very, very low :P

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I'm not the one that titled the series in typical NTR fashion and had the MC pull an NTR book out. Even if the NTR set up doesn't hold a lot of water, it's still seemingly the author's intent. Maybe the author author wanted to make diet NTR, but NTR to me is all the same to me, simply not my cup of soda, diet or otherwise.

That's how she framed it though, doesn't even matter if it's true or not :P Overall it's plenty of reasons why this strongly doesn't appeal to plenty of people.

So it really is you two have a strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically? I guess that's fair enough, though it does make me wonder why you even read the manga in the first place.

It's not tagged as NTR, and I give chapters 1-3 of most things a fair chance. We're not the only ones that aren't a fan of the set up, though I think if people enjoy the story so far that's fine. I'm not going to tell people what to enjoy or not, especially with a fictional story like this, if people think the story is fun more power to them. I just had a strong reaction to the NTR theming and have been discussing it. Which the comments turned into a more serious situation than the series it's self I think lol

Fucking someone gay only works in hentai girl, luckily you're in an ecchi so there's a high chance.

Piggybacking off my first comment, I know people dislike NTR but why is everyone losing it so hard over a dumb soft core porn manga being dumb soft core porn?
She's not even together with the guy yet everyone in the comments is going completely insane.

Fucking someone gay only works in hentai girl, luckily you're in an ecchi so there's a high chance.

Piggybacking off my first comment, I know people dislike NTR but why is everyone losing it so hard over a dumb soft core porn manga being dumb soft core porn?
She's not even together with the guy yet everyone in the comments is going completely insane.

As I said in my last comment, "Which the comments turned into a more serious situation than the series it's self I think lol"

Which includes myself. I think the discussion got serious in varied regards, and so it's been going back and fourth for awhile now. We're at a point where the discussion is more about the discussion than the series. You're saying we're all insane, and so now I'm responding to that lol

Which also "She's not even together with the guy yet", there's also been a lot of back and fourth on that. Which the series still has NTR theming at the very least, if the author didn't want that in there they shouldn't have put it in there.