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Orchestra csan be louder than a rock band so should be possible

They're gonna play "Concerto for Group and Orchestra" (Deep Purple and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra), aren't they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a45ZL2fhX-M

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joined Nov 13, 2017

Very few bands can mix orchestra with rock and have it sound natural.

joined Jul 8, 2019

Very few bands can mix orchestra with rock and have it sound natural.

Composers like Morricone and bands like Manowar, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Baron Rojo, Feuerschwanz, Nightwish and many others disagree with your assesment, my friend. It's been done a lot of times and usually it is awesome.

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joined Apr 2, 2023

I think my first live concert was going to The Moody Blues with a pit orchestra as a child. Days of Future Passed was recorded with an orchestra. More recently Muse comes to mind. It all sounds natural to me. Maybe I’ve just avoided the disaster ones.

The POV of Japanese teens and a Japanese audience on this as a novelty might be very different. It is entertaining so far at least.

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Very few bands can mix orchestra with rock and have it sound natural.

It depends what you mean by "orchestra" tbh, plenty of bands have a violin and other more "orchestral" instruments playing that slap. If you actually just have an orchestra playing and then have some lead guitar and a person singing a rock song then it usually doesn't work, but there are a few exceptions.

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joined Aug 1, 2011

Just saying... those musical illiterates (both characters and, maaaaybe, the mangaka) who say that the guitar is not "refined" nor "noble"; somebody should smash them over the head with the collected works of the maestro Joaquín Rodrigo, 1st Marquess of the Gardens of Aranjuez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxH-7VklBI

That shouldn't be much of surprise, since guitars are about three centuries older than violins. That's a lot of time to develop traditions and cultural cachet.

I'm starting to wonder how much her father would actually care. Ririsa and her mother obviously think it's important, but it makes sense that they'd be overly sensitive and careful with that sort of thing. Similarly, it makes sense that the younger sister thinks its important, because she's young, personally values the violin, and is looking for flaws she can use to try and drive off her new family. However, in the grand scheme of things, there's nothing wrong with playing the guitar, even in classy settings, so I'd expect the father to care more about some combination of the style of music, type of guitar, and level of success, rather than the specific instrument.

I'm also a bit curious about how the various characters would feel about a more traditionally Japanese option, like the shamisen. They seem to be a more western-styled family, but its traditional origins and presentation definitely lend it an air of dignity. At the same time, shamisen's can also go extremely hard. I mean, basically any instrument can (electric violins are a thing), but rock is a much smaller leap for the shamisen. Also, yes, that is a violin with frets.

Edit: Since I mentioned electric violins, here's a metal violin cover of the Fallout theme, for reference. (The metal/electric portion starts at about the 50 second mark.)

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joined Jul 8, 2019

Just saying... those musical illiterates (both characters and, maaaaybe, the mangaka) who say that the guitar is not "refined" nor "noble"; somebody should smash them over the head with the collected works of the maestro Joaquín Rodrigo, 1st Marquess of the Gardens of Aranjuez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxH-7VklBI

That shouldn't be much of surprise, since guitars are about three centuries older than violins. That's a lot of time to develop traditions and cultural cachet.

I fear it's more a matter of the guitar being seen as a "popular" instrument (despite masters like Rodrigo proving that full-blown orchestra-based classic music can be written for it) and the violin is seen as "not a popular" instrument (despite there even existing a word in English for a violinist specialized in popular music, "fiddler").
Such is life.
Want it WORSE? Japan is well-known for classical composers doing work for full orchestras and electric guitar. I know that this piece from the master Keiki Kobayashi is a videogame piece, but it suffices as an example of the genre.

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joined Nov 13, 2017

Very few bands can mix orchestra with rock and have it sound natural.

Composers like Morricone and bands like Manowar, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Baron Rojo, Feuerschwanz, Nightwish and many others disagree with your assesment, my friend. It's been done a lot of times and usually it is awesome.

Nightwish is overrated.
Therion, Haggard, Moody Blues, Electric Light Orchestra, Rhapsody (of Fire) make it sound great. The statement still stands that few bands can make it natural.

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joined Aug 18, 2015

Just saying... those musical illiterates (both characters and, maaaaybe, the mangaka) who say that the guitar is not "refined" nor "noble"; somebody should smash them over the head with the collected works of the maestro Joaquín Rodrigo, 1st Marquess of the Gardens of Aranjuez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxH-7VklBI

That shouldn't be much of surprise, since guitars are about three centuries older than violins. That's a lot of time to develop traditions and cultural cachet.

I fear it's more a matter of the guitar being seen as a "popular" instrument (despite masters like Rodrigo proving that full-blown orchestra-based classic music can be written for it) and the violin is seen as "not a popular" instrument (despite there even existing a word in English for a violinist specialized in popular music, "fiddler").
Such is life.

I feel like it has more to do with the fact that rock music has (generally) leaned towards "counter cultural", whereas classical music is more "traditional", for lack of a better term.

I'm not exactly a rocket musicologist though, so I'm not all that well-informed about the subject.

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joined Aug 1, 2011

SushiKnight posted:

Just saying... those musical illiterates (both characters and, maaaaybe, the mangaka) who say that the guitar is not "refined" nor "noble"; somebody should smash them over the head with the collected works of the maestro Joaquín Rodrigo, 1st Marquess of the Gardens of Aranjuez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxH-7VklBI

That shouldn't be much of surprise, since guitars are about three centuries older than violins. That's a lot of time to develop traditions and cultural cachet.

I fear it's more a matter of the guitar being seen as a "popular" instrument (despite masters like Rodrigo proving that full-blown orchestra-based classic music can be written for it) and the violin is seen as "not a popular" instrument (despite there even existing a word in English for a violinist specialized in popular music, "fiddler").
Such is life.

I feel like it has more to do with the fact that rock music has (generally) leaned towards "counter cultural", whereas classical music is more "traditional", for lack of a better term.

I'm not exactly a rocket musicologist though, so I'm not all that well-informed about the subject.

Rock is much newer and has roots in jazz. By the same token, it also originally came from music produced by black people in the US that was later adopted by white performers due to its popularity.

With that said, guitars don't need to play rock and rock doesn't need to be played with guitars.

joined Jul 22, 2014

Should have smash Kurogane Otoha head with the guitar due to her shitty comments and finger in the chapter 1.

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I'm rooting for the pseudo-incest route

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joined Jun 27, 2015

Oho, I see Casiopea name-dropped in the credit notes. A very excellent funky band, very similar vibe to TWRP if you're familiar with them.

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It's actually the same song that Hibike Euphonium did during season two also, definitely gonna be a different rendition in the anime.

Composed by the late Hirotaka Izumi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0INeQG_I4zk

last edited at Mar 8, 2025 10:11PM

joined Jul 8, 2019

Based T-Square.

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joined Jun 1, 2017

Actually a lot of Sheena Ringo's western fans are unbearable so I kinda get it lol but I do have to wonder about the rationale here.

As for the latest chapter, it is very nice to have only one degree of separation between Kiyohiko Senba (T-SQUARE's drummer) and yuri. T-SQUARE are a pretty cool band but Senba's best project by far was Haniwa All Stars (a traveling ensemble of 60 traditional musicians dressed as nurses and doctors) and Haniwa-chan (a compact version of the ensemble for studio records), which I highly encourage you all to watch and listen to. Senba himself comes from a centuries long tradition of percussionists in his family.

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joined Feb 23, 2014

Yen Press picked this up.

https://bsky.app/profile/yenpress.com/post/3llyte7eotg2e

Well at least yenpress puts out like a volume every year, that's faster than the current scans.

joined Apr 2, 2023

I think there is a lot of redrawing for this one so it is more of a time dump situation for anyone doing it. However it was, Yen Press will take it on.

last edited at Apr 4, 2025 5:06PM

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joined Jul 21, 2024

The first episode of the anime just released, and it's really good so far, the animation is great too! :)
The first episode stayed true to the first chapter everything was really similar, which was great, especially getting to see the rock-out scene with actual sound :)

last edited at Apr 5, 2025 11:39AM

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joined Jun 21, 2021

The first episode of the anime just released, and it's really good so far, the animation is great too! :)
The first episode stayed true to the first chapter everything was really similar, which was great, especially getting to see the rock-out scene with actual sound :)

And of course the opening is an absolute BAND-MAID banger~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eapNDHKbu0M

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joined Jul 21, 2024

The first episode of the anime just released, and it's really good so far, the animation is great too! :)
The first episode stayed true to the first chapter everything was really similar, which was great, especially getting to see the rock-out scene with actual sound :)

And of course the opening is an absolute BAND-MAID banger~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eapNDHKbu0M

Even the outro!

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