Pliny the Elder preferred well water best of all, while Columella preferred spring water and put well water beneath that. Lupus Servatus, abbott of Ferrieres, echoes Columella in placing cistern water dead last. Hildegard of Bingen's ranking is, from best to worst, well water, spring water, rain water, and river water. Hildegard also advises that snow water is dangerous to the health, while river and swamp water should always be boiled, then cooled, before drinking.

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ol1h45/deleted_by_user/h5bjn7s/

There's a fourteenth-century text that purports to be a letter from a Valencia man to his sons at university in Toulouse that instructs them to "cook" the water they get from a couple of nearby rivers because it's known to be dirty!

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ajkpga/where_did_medieval_europeans_get_drinking_water/eewz0dm/?context=999

Rachel probably wouldn't dig her own well, but a well that came with the property, or a village well, would hardly be unusual, I think.

I certainly wouldn't assert that Europeans never drank river water, but we seem to have multiple historians saying it was a last-choice for them, and that they had some idea of water quality by source (as well as appearance.)

Anyway, not like we see Rachel draw her water in the morning.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/lets_hang_out_when_the_black_plague_is_over_a_slow_life_of_modern_civilization_in_the_world_of_middle_age_europe_ch02#38

Apologies if someone said this already, but "Franken District" is probably Franconia, and "Roman Empire" must be "Holy Roman Empire". Going by Wikipedia, Franconia is plausibly a major wine source for the HRE. It's hilariously not for the 'real' Roman Empire.

Pliny the Elder preferred well water best of all, while Columella preferred spring water and put well water beneath that. Lupus Servatus, abbott of Ferrieres, echoes Columella in placing cistern water dead last. Hildegard of Bingen's ranking is, from best to worst, well water, spring water, rain water, and river water. Hildegard also advises that snow water is dangerous to the health, while river and swamp water should always be boiled, then cooled, before drinking.

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ol1h45/deleted_by_user/h5bjn7s/

There's a fourteenth-century text that purports to be a letter from a Valencia man to his sons at university in Toulouse that instructs them to "cook" the water they get from a couple of nearby rivers because it's known to be dirty!

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ajkpga/where_did_medieval_europeans_get_drinking_water/eewz0dm/?context=999

That second source, where the guy assumes his sons would drink unboiled river water if he didn't warn them about those particular rivers, feels like a good piece of evidence that drinking river water was indeed a thing sometimes and in some places. If you're in a very rural area without upstream livestock then it'd make perfect sense to me to drink from the river instead of putting in the effort and resources required to dig a well. It might be taking a risk, but these people didn't know to wash their hands after going to the bathroom so all the fear of rivers in the world couldn't stop digestive diseases from being an everpresent threat no matter what you did throughout most of history.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the taste of water was a bigger factor in these judgements and practices being formed. Does your local well taste chalky but your local river taste clean? You'd probably drink the river.

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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/lets_hang_out_when_the_black_plague_is_over_a_slow_life_of_modern_civilization_in_the_world_of_middle_age_europe_ch02#38

Apologies if someone said this already, but "Franken District" is probably Franconia, and "Roman Empire" must be "Holy Roman Empire". Going by Wikipedia, Franconia is plausibly a major wine source for the HRE. It's hilariously not for the 'real' Roman Empire.

To be fair to the author, the Holy Roman Empire certainly claimed to be the 'real' Roman Empire lol. I'm sure there's even some people out there who'd argue it was, like sure it's in a different place with a different structure of state and different religion and not much of an empire anymore but that's like Ship of Theseus stuff it can still be the Roman Empire!

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/lets_hang_out_when_the_black_plague_is_over_a_slow_life_of_modern_civilization_in_the_world_of_middle_age_europe_ch02#38

Apologies if someone said this already, but "Franken District" is probably Franconia, and "Roman Empire" must be "Holy Roman Empire". Going by Wikipedia, Franconia is plausibly a major wine source for the HRE. It's hilariously not for the 'real' Roman Empire.

To be fair to the author, the Holy Roman Empire certainly claimed to be the 'real' Roman Empire lol. I'm sure there's even some people out there who'd argue it was, like sure it's in a different place with a different structure of state and different religion and not much of an empire anymore but that's like Ship of Theseus stuff it can still be the Roman Empire!

Problem there, of course, is that the real Roman Empire was still around in 1353.

The author does a great job bringing their story to life with detailed historical content. However, one part raises a question for me. Would electricity be able to pass through the portal? For example, if Ema's sister sent an electric cable from her world to Ema's, could it power Ema’s devices? Otherwise, Ema must be using some kind of battery-powered bank. I feel like I might have missed something, as I’m still confused about how the power works.

The author does a great job bringing their story to life with detailed historical content. However, one part raises a question for me. Would electricity be able to pass through the portal? For example, if Ema's sister sent an electric cable from her world to Ema's, could it power Ema’s devices? Otherwise, Ema must be using some kind of battery-powered bank. I feel like I might have missed something, as I’m still confused about how the power works.

I would assume that with the right present-day parts, Ema would be able to generate power with the water mill she lives in. She'll probably explain in more detail when we get into more electricity-reliant conveniences.

The author does a great job bringing their story to life with detailed historical content. However, one part raises a question for me. Would electricity be able to pass through the portal? For example, if Ema's sister sent an electric cable from her world to Ema's, could it power Ema’s devices? Otherwise, Ema must be using some kind of battery-powered bank. I feel like I might have missed something, as I’m still confused about how the power works.

I would assume that with the right present-day parts, Ema would be able to generate power with the water mill she lives in. She'll probably explain in more detail when we get into more electricity-reliant conveniences.

I see, much appreciated :)

I'd imagine the 4 am Sunday drink would simply have been water.

Definitely if they had access to clean water. Which was usually the case. People were not stupid after all.

Man I love historical clothing so much, it's nice seeing it portrayed well. The door thing is funny though I wonder if wifi can also go past c.

She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

Yes, because I don't get it.

Thanks for giving me company. Read that comment a few times wondering how I was missing something so "obvious".

She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

Yes, because I don't get it.

Thanks for giving me company. Read that comment a few times wondering how I was missing something so "obvious".

A miller in the sense of grinding grains, and since you need grains for bread they're the perfect combination, a miller and a baker.

She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

Yes, because I don't get it.

Thanks for giving me company. Read that comment a few times wondering how I was missing something so "obvious".

A miller in the sense of grinding grains, and since you need grains for bread they're the perfect combination, a miller and a baker.

Yeah. And I was referecing the Avril Lavigne lyric:

"He was a boy
She was a girl
Can I make it any more obvious?
He was a punk
She did ballet
What more can I say?"

I really dated myself with this, huh

I really dated myself with this, huh

Only if you consider referencing something only popular with people who were children twenty years ago to be dating yourself. >:3

I really dated myself with this, huh

Only if you consider referencing something only popular with people who were children twenty years ago to be dating yourself. >:3

Based on the references I see around here, I feel like most of us are past our "prime" days. Doesn't feel like there's a lot of young blood in the forums.

I do wonder how the younger sister is physically moving stuff through the portal. Tossing things to her sister? Putting the stuff on something with wheels and rolling it over? Or maybe just sliding things across the floor?
Maybe the portal only blocks things from coming back after they've completely crossed the threshold, so she's able to hand things to her sister? If so, maybe she can also lean across and give her sister a hug when she's feeling lonely...and now I'm sad.

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I'd imagine it would have a pull for anything touching it, sucking it entirely to one side. This is mostly to avoid nasty thoughts about that partially through hug ending in gory tragedy.

Edit: by the way, speaking of old references, this setup weirdly sorta reminds me of Quantum Leap. Ema is marooned in the past like the Quantum Leap MC, but can get support and advice remotely from someone she can see and talk to but cannot touch.

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Based on the references I see around here, I feel like most of us are past our "prime" days. Doesn't feel like there's a lot of young blood in the forums.

I do wonder how the younger sister is physically moving stuff through the portal. Tossing things to her sister? Putting the stuff on something with wheels and rolling it over? Or maybe just sliding things across the floor?
Maybe the portal only blocks things from coming back after they've completely crossed the threshold, so she's able to hand things to her sister? If so, maybe she can also lean across and give her sister a hug when she's feeling lonely...and now I'm sad.

I think there's some younger people on here, some of the newer users, maybe anyhow. The average age probably skews older though, I believe in part because this is a forum and forums are sadly generally a relic of older internet. I don't mean that negatively, only that forums aren't nearly as booming anymore lol

I'd imagine it would have a pull for anything touching it, sucking it entirely to one side. This is mostly to avoid nasty thoughts about that partially through hug ending in gory tragedy.

That moment when you go to hug your sister and you end up stuck in the past with her detached arms...

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I think there's some younger people on here, some of the newer users, maybe anyhow. The average age probably skews older though, I believe in part because this is a forum and forums are sadly generally a relic of older internet. I don't mean that negatively, only that forums aren't nearly as booming anymore lol

Yeah it definitely does skew older, I've seen some who sounded underage here and there but I myself am also a baby, since I'm only 21. I started browsing this site as a 10 years old who could barely understand English...

I'd imagine it would have a pull for anything touching it, sucking it entirely to one side. This is mostly to avoid nasty thoughts about that partially through hug ending in gory tragedy.

That moment when you go to hug your sister and you end up stuck in the past with her detached arms...

I didn't think of this. Lmao.

I think there's some younger people on here, some of the newer users, maybe anyhow. The average age probably skews older though, I believe in part because this is a forum and forums are sadly generally a relic of older internet. I don't mean that negatively, only that forums aren't nearly as booming anymore lol

Yeah it definitely does skew older, I've seen some who sounded underage here and there but I myself am also a baby, since I'm only 21. I started browsing this site as a 10 years old who could barely understand English...

Wow, ambitious! lmao

Wow, ambitious! lmao

LOL thinking back on it now, it is really funny, but that's just the power of girls kissing each other haha

I do wonder how the younger sister is physically moving stuff through the portal. Tossing things to her sister? Putting the stuff on something with wheels and rolling it over? Or maybe just sliding things across the floor?

Well we do see a box of things, so I guess just pushing that through with a pokey thingy.

The survey 5 years ago had the peak ages between 18 (or "18") and 26. OTOH I think it was done on Discord, which might skew younger than the forum.

https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/15346-dynasty-specific-demographic-survey

I do wonder how the younger sister is physically moving stuff through the portal. Tossing things to her sister? Putting the stuff on something with wheels and rolling it over? Or maybe just sliding things across the floor?

Well we do see a box of things, so I guess just pushing that through with a pokey thingy.

Doesn't even have to be a pokey thingy. Once the box is partially through, it can also be pulled from this side.

Yeah. And I was referecing the Avril Lavigne lyric:

"He was a boy
She was a girl
Can I make it any more obvious?
He was a punk
She did ballet
What more can I say?"

I really dated myself with this, huh

This is a song that did not deserve to escape the early 2000s