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Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

... or they have a hardcore make out session.

Author should go for an epic twist; continue at this pace, then at some point have a third character walk into the aquarium club where a tied up Kotatsu is currently being domme'd by a dressed up Honami. And they just go "oops, looks the cat's out of the bag. Guess we can stop acting like oblivious schoolgirls now ... "

...

The heat must be getting to me.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

So confused... Which one's the "sub" in this relationship? Or is it because they do it underwater and off panel (so we only see the text)?

Was it the author who referred to it as "Girls-ship" at the end of volume 1, or a translation option? Seems a pretty appropriate description at this point.

There's the tag we need, straight from the author:

Awkward & Unbalanced

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

So much friendship.

When they will be married, their kids will play together.

Well of course they will. They'll be siblings, after all.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

I totally think he was, indeed.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice ... I won't be fooled again. guitar riffs

Thanks, George.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

joined Jun 30, 2016

I fucking hate those kind of people that thinks that their "idols" or people that they admire need to live and act in just one way, like they are their owners or something, luckily that chick apologize for doing that, one must live by their own believes and for what they love, not for the expectations of others.

C016
joined Apr 24, 2017

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch11#20
i feel sorry for that girl who got "handsome foreigner"

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

I fucking hate those kind of people that thinks that their "idols" or people that they admire need to live and act in just one way, like they are their owners or something, luckily that chick apologize for doing that, one must live by their own believes and for what they love, not for the expectations of others.

Psst, it's the author's subtle warning to everyone who expects actually yuri from those two ...

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joined May 25, 2017

forget konatsu and honami, hirose is extra gay

Ryuko
joined May 1, 2018

@Pyoro bro are you seriously saying that these two gal pals aren't totally holding hands when their parents aren't home?

joined Oct 5, 2016

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

The dads get together

The girls just stay as friends

Dynasty explodes

Senjougahara_sama
Rowow
joined Jun 12, 2017

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

The dads get together

The girls just stay as friends

Holy shit that would be hilarious.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch11#20
i feel sorry for that girl who got "handsome foreigner"

I have to assume that there's someone specific at the school that the signmaker had in mind. Like a french exchange student that everybody knows, or something.

It's a pretty dick move otherwise, for sure. ;p

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

The dads get together

The girls just stay as friends

Dynasty explodes

Eh, I'd still read it.

joined Jul 26, 2016

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

The dads get together

The girls just stay as friends

Dynasty explodes

Eh, I'd still read it.

Their current level of Friendship is already gayer than a fair few series tagged Yuri so wouldn't even be mad. o3ob

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joined Aug 16, 2014

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

The dads get together

The girls just stay as friends

Dynasty explodes

Isn't that basically just Nanashi no Asterism?

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

@Pyoro bro are you seriously saying that these two gal pals aren't totally holding hands when their parents aren't home?

Naw, as alluded to on the previous page I'm sure they're doing all sorts of things; but it's fun to pretend that the author is just an incredible troll or as oblivious as their characters and having no clue what they are writing.

"I don't get these reactions. I'm just writing about girl friendship. What are you people going on about?"

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Gaaaaaaay coughs i mean- Friendsssssss

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joined Oct 6, 2015

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joined Dec 16, 2013

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Yup.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

First series to ever require an Insane amounts of subtext tag.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

Also the dads super seem like they're picking up on what's going on. They both get that amused parental expression, and drop subtle lines about how they're supportive of their "friendship."

OMG, I think I just started shipping the two dads . . .

The dads get together

The girls just stay as friends

Dynasty explodes

Isn't that basically just Nanashi no Asterism?

Nanashi no Asterism ends with the strong indication that two of the three leads end up together, or at least very likely could. The triangle has essentially resolved itself at the end of the series, people just rail against it because they can't take ambiguity. The main character recognizes that she never had a chance and moves on. I get that it isn't the ending a lot of people wanted, but c'mon, do we really have to rehash this all over the place?

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

@Pyoro bro are you seriously saying that these two gal pals aren't totally holding hands when their parents aren't home?

Naw, as alluded to on the previous page I'm sure they're doing all sorts of things; but it's fun to pretend that the author is just an incredible troll or as oblivious as their characters and having no clue what they are writing.

"I don't get these reactions. I'm just writing about girl friendship. What are you people going on about?"

"What's the big deal, me and my best friend were like this all the time. We even used to kiss and go out on dates! You know, like friends do!"

joined Oct 5, 2016

OK so, I don't know why I'm even doing this considering pretty much everyone already agrees that this series is gay as fuck, but screw it, I'm going through each chapter and pointing out how fucking absolutely on purpose all the gay stuff is. I'm gonna call senpai by her surname Honami because both of them having K names just inevitably makes me fuck up.

Chapter 1 --
The whole story opens with girls meets girl. The whole "moving to a new town" thing comes later, but the story really wants you to know this is about these two girls from page 1.

Also she's opening with "Do you like Salamanders?" which as will come up later, isn't really how she normally deals with the public. She's starting with an icebreaker, trying to start a conversation with this random girl. Konatsu, meanwhile, is all like, "A pretty girl is talking to me!!!" It's not quite as gay as Kumiko from Euphonium's, "Crap, a pretty girl!", but still, she seems pretty amazed. There's just so much immediate romantic tension here, with Honami inviting her to come back and Konatsu looking all nervous and intrigued by the invitation (and not because she's super into aquariums!).

Page 16, and hey, it's our first mention of the summer festival already! Specifically, a boy asked Honami out to the festival and got turned down. Konatsu thinks that Honami's pretty popular. The teacher yells at Konatsu to not just stare out into space on her first day, but we already saw on the previous page what she's really staring at - Honami outside in PE.

Their whole second meeting is pretty romantic, too. It's also sorta interesting that they immediately go to first names, which is relatively intimate, especially when one is older. It feels like part of this manga's reversal of Class-S tropes - Konatsu meets this impossibly cool, pretty senpai... And instead of having that very Class-S kouhai-senpai relationship, instead they go straight to an equal relationship, and she realizes that Honami's actually a pretty big dork. The author's purposefully referencing, and then subverting, some of those standard romantic friendship / gay subtext tropes.

What's really interesting is on page 35. Her dad messages her asking if she's made any new friends, and Konatsu's like, "Should I tell him the truth?" Next panel is her thinking of Honami's face, third panel is Konatsu blushing. She tells her dad that she made one friend, and then is like, "I'm not lying..." before wondering if it would be OK for her to visit Honami tomorrow, and trying to think of an excuse to do so, and feeling all embarrassed about it.

So like, does any of that sequence really make a lick of sense if all she's thinking about is how she wants to be friends? It really doesn't. The "I'm not lying" is pretty obviously meant to be followed by, "But I'm not telling the whole truth about her, either." And it's not because she's feeling a bit lonely, because as the not-a-lizard tells her in a couple pages, if she's lonely she could just go try to hang out with her classmates. But she's not hanging out with her classmates, she's in the library researching Salamanders, trying to figure out a name to submit, all so she'll have an excuse to go back to visit Honami. She asks herself, "Why am I so hung up on this?"

When she finally goes to the aquarium club itself, she sees two boys inside. Boys are useful props in yuri, because when they say that they like a girl there's no doubt about how they mean it. And in this case the boys are very useful props indeed. "If you like Honami, just join the club already. There aren't any other members, so you'd have her all to yourself." Again, the author's setting a boy's romantic feelings for Honami right next to Konatsu's (as yet unrevealed, technically) feelings for Honami. If the author wanted this to just be a story about Girl's Friendship she could've had it be a couple of girls talking about how cool senpai is, but nope, it's boys talking about liking a girl and Konatsu relating to that. If she wanted romantic friendship she could've just made this a girl's school, or at least done that thing where boys never really show up on screen. Yes it's subtext, more or less, but this ain't an accident, the author is doing this on purpose.

Meanwhile Honami is totally wondering about Konatsu, before resolving "I'll just do my club duties before thinking about anything weird." Honami feels like her thoughts about Konatsu are weird, not normal.

Notice the lack of honorifics when Konatsu is naming the salamander after Honami's first name, Koyuki. First name, no honorifics is a very intimate form of address, and she's going, "It's lonely without you, Koyuki!!" No wonder Honami freaks out with the second-hand kiss. The whole scene is them sort of teasing intimacy - not quite no-honorifics, not exactly a real kiss but thinking of one... This sort of experimental pushing of boundaries shows up regularly in later chapters, in a way that is not at all about gals being pals, but is very much like having a first girlfriend.

Heh, that was a lot longer than I had planned for only one chapter. But like, jesus christ it's so gay! I see a lot of folks in the comments acting like something is either gay, or "just" subtext, and like... Yeah, the manga never quiiiite outright tells you what it's doing, but that doesn't mean it isn't still gay as fuck. It's just subtly written.

TifalovesAerith
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joined May 7, 2017

INSANELY HUGE MESSAGE WRITTEN BY SadDoctor

Yet this and this it's yuri in this site standards, go figure.

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