So we are wrong because someone on 4chan has a different theory with no basis in what we have seen? Alright.

If for no basis you mean the themes of the entire series, yeah.

No, I mean that we have not once seen any of the rich girls wish to be like Yuzu. None of them even seem displeased by their arranged marriages. Mei had decided her own path volumes ago and agreed to inherit the school instead of following her father's path when given the choice by her grandfather.

These themes that everyone wants to live like Yuzu has no basis in the story that we have seen.

These themes that everyone wants to live like Yuzu has no basis in the story that we have seen.

Not everyone, but at least Nene, Harumin and Mei : Nene is obvious, she's a fan and explains to Mei why, and how she'd like to be like her (and says others too). Harumin secretly wants to be like Yuzu, they're both gyarus except Yuzu is more open and confident about it. Mei said so to Yuzu after listening to Nene's praise, even if she backtracks right afterwards.

Soo, yeah I don't think it's the basis of the entire story, but it has some basis and is the foundation of the fifth volume which revolves around Harumin's acceptance of herself. And Yuzu's as well, it's a bit subtle, but Yuzu made her coming out in this volume in front of the entire school IIRC, I'm glad they didn't make a big deal about it. I only realised it in volume 6, the same time as Yuzu, I don't think it's flattering...

So perhaps there is more than just the fiancé to be explored in this volume as well. Even then, I still maintain that the stakes are different from the first arranged marriage. The first one was about getting Mei out of a prison, this one would be about how to deal with their relationship in the future. But it still early to come to a conclusion.

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I'm really loving those extras! I can't wait for next chapter tho

Vol. 5 Extra's Tiger prints reminds me of Lum no Love Song. Mei is so sexy! No Mei you're being too daring! You've really grown-up. * crying * T_T

This is not related but.... If you are playing Honkai Impact 3, there's a character there that looks like Mei and also her name is Mei with a long black hair, a little shy but not as cold as Mei (Citrus) well I don't know if it's just coincidence but I hope there's a Yuzu character look-a-like and name also in the future hahaha.

thats why sometimes I'd prefer yaoi more than yuri, cuz yaoi is usually straight to the point without exploring the drama too much

Yea, well, when you consider that guys are generally more "straight to the point", it makes a bit more sense....~_^

Are we missing chapter 20? i found it here * link deleted *

Also, i had my eye on this in like forever but i was abstaining from reading it since it wasnt completed yet and i hate to be left on a cliffhanger, but seeing that this will have an anime adaptation by January, I felt like i had no choice but to read it. xD
And im loving it so far.

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Are we missing chapter 20? i found it here * link deleted *

Also, i had my eye on this in like forever but i was abstaining from reading it since it wasnt completed yet and i hate to be left on a cliffhanger, but seeing that this will have an anime adaptation by January, I felt like i had no choice but to read it. xD
And im loving it so far.

chapter 20 is half way through translation but it will be delayed cause we had the anthology o work on

It's very interesting manga. I can't wait for new chapter.

For those who still like the series (huehue, sorry), apparently the next issue will be in January or something, if I believe google translate and https://twitter.com/_saburouta/status/939736450899222528

If somebody with good knowledge in Japanese could confirm it, that would be great!

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The chapter is on hiatus this month (Yuri Hime February issue released the 18th of December) because Saburouta asked to report the publication to next month, in the March issue of Yuri Hime that will be released the 18 th of January. We don't know why, some people could assume she has some health issues or maybe she wants time to adjust the plot because she's not satisfied with what she intended to draw at first.

You get that, but you also get rape being excused as "romance" and a shitton of exploitative tropes.

Totally agree with the rape thing. I remember trying to explore this genre and and giving up in 30 mins cuz of rape rape and rape and Killing Stalking. (No offense to people who like yaoi and/or Killing Stalking. This is my personal opinion.)

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Yaoi is literally just exploitative gay porn marketed to women. Unless you're fine with gross lesbian porn directed to men, you really shouldn't read it.

Actually, that raises a valid question. Why is there plenty of yuri material written by women for women, but literally all yaoi is catered to the female gaze, with literally no male writers involved period?

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Yaoi is literally just exploitative gay porn marketed to women. Unless you're fine with gross lesbian porn directed to men, you really shouldn't read it.

Actually, that raises a valid question. Why is there plenty of yuri material written by women for women, but literally all yaoi is catered to the female gaze, with literally no male writers involved period?

There's clearly demand among women to see guys in sexually humiliating situations, which most men understandably aren't interested in reading or drawing. The same demand seems not to be present from men (perhaps because they have enough of that sort of thing already in het porn) so that paradigm didn't catch on, and instead the yuri genre became shoujo-style romance, which appeals to women. The end result is that yaoi is super popular with women while yuri isn't all that popular among men.

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So it's the same reason why at least 50% of hentai includes rape?

Because, if that is the justification, what the fuck. I'm 100% fine with porn, but fetishizing actual crimes is kinda revolting, no matter the gender.

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Rain Spectre posted:

So it's the same reason why at least 50% of hentai includes rape?

Because, if that is the justification, what the fuck. I'm 100% fine with porn, but fetishizing actual crimes is kinda revolting, no matter the gender.

It's stupid, but this is my observation:

Het hentai: Men's chance to see women raped and humiliated by men.
Yaoi: Women's chance to see men raped and humiliated by men.
Yuri: Odd one out, less popular but what exists is girly romance.

Maybe people expect the rape as romance trope when there's a guy involved, but not when the characters are women.

That raises a lot of unsettling implications regarding that particular subset of otaku and especially fujoshi culture as a whole.

Maybe people expect the rape as romance trope when there's a guy involved, but not when the characters are women.

Asian media seems to have a special place for rape in their heart. The shoujo het romances of the 90's and early 00's have so many heroes raping the heroines in the name of ''love''. Yaoi has always been rape-y. There is some rape in Yuri, but those are rare.

Even now, in Thai dramas rape is shown as a form of love. The twisted part is, somehow, the girl falls in love with the guy after all that. That's just unsettling and horrible usage of the rape trope.

I think that ties to the general perception of damaged men being "attractive" to women. Look at Fifty Shades of Grey for an example of that trope.

One person on Eroge Download put it like this "The first time a woman in a hentai is raped, she hates it. Second time, she enjoys it. Third time, she becomes an obsessive slut hungry for cock." On that same note, there are a disturbing amount of H-Games built on raping woman, which has some VERY unsettling implications.

So many offtopic posts...

Let's come back to Citrus indeed. Crunchyroll picked it worldwide. And the next Yuri Hime magazine, released sunday will give some more news about the anime since there isn't any chapter this month.

heads up,citrus chapter 20 will be uploaded after final qc,soon . also the last 3 chapters of the anthology as well as soon as we have translation for the final 4 pages.

Aaaaaand now Citrus is completed :) (so far at least)

Ah thank you. Pages 38/39 are inversed. ;)

Ah thank you. Pages 38/39 are inversed. ;)

This.

Ah thank you. Pages 38/39 are inversed. ;)

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