why they're all always ruined things that i really want to read ?

Oh, things are getting complicated. Didn't know it could get anymore so, but it has. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Fucking with Yuzumori-san Ririha? Not a very good idea. Are you sure that's a road you want to go down?

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Ok, this is getting real weird, mainly because the whole thing of fashion model children. Like, what the fuck Japan.

When was the last time you opened a clothing magazine ? 'cause it's pretty comon to have boys and girls of any ages wearing some clothing to advertise them. As other said, it's usually casual poses, nothing "dangerous". XD

so yeah, it's not exactly something specific to japan and I don't really see the issue with a model her age as long as it's not "risqué" work.

I sense....DANGER!! (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ watch out Mimika!

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THIS NEEDS A NTR TAG!!11!!11eleveneleven

come on...-_-

Oh, things are getting complicated. Didn't know it could get anymore so, but it has. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Hello fellow lion (x moose?) fan. :)

Seems like this is the "Mimika loves Yuzumori specifically and not just small girls in general" bit.

Also: Ririha confirmed vampire.

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Begone, whorebeast.

Seems like this is the "Mimika loves Yuzumori specifically and not just small girls in general" bit.

Also: Ririha confirmed vampire.

Hah!

ch 20, pg 6, "you'r saying" should be "you're saying"
ch 21, pg 5, "so thought I'd call out to you" I think that's "so I thought..."

It's really only an issue if they're sexualized. The magazine in the manga is aimed towards kids her own age so I don't really see the issue. Similar to child actors.

When was the last time you opened a clothing magazine ? 'cause it's pretty comon to have boys and girls of any ages wearing some clothing to advertise them. As other said, it's usually casual poses, nothing "dangerous". XD

so yeah, it's not exactly something specific to japan and I don't really see the issue with a model her age as long as it's not "risqué" work.

That argument doesn't hold water when Ririha is not only well aware of the existence of lolicons but she actively tries to use her own (or perceived at least) sex appeal to win Mimika's favor. To not mention the idolization her classmates indulge in.

That argument doesn't hold water when Ririha is not only well aware of the existence of lolicons but she actively tries to use her own (or perceived at least) sex appeal to win Mimika's favor. To not mention the idolization her classmates indulge in.

In the meantime we have Yuzumori who also is aware of the existence of lolicons and is attempting to date one. Really, child models is very common in the west.

Yeah, but Yuzumori has been shown to be a naive and relatively pure affection stemming from the lack of attention she gets from her family. Ririha on the other hand is not acting like a child but rather like a tiny teenager, that is what makes it so unsettling for me.

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That argument doesn't hold water when Ririha is not only well aware of the existence of lolicons but she actively tries to use her own (or perceived at least) sex appeal to win Mimika's favor. To not mention the idolization her classmates indulge in.

Likewise. I'm worried for Ririha...

At no point any adult has been shown in that manga. Your issues about sexualization, or whatever, are clearly not addressed in the "world" the author created and are clearly irrelevant. The author isn't writing hentai or a social comment. They are just writing a romantic comedy where some characters are 4th graders.

Stop inserting reality and your triggers in my age gap yuri manga.

That argument doesn't hold water when Ririha is not only well aware of the existence of lolicons but she actively tries to use her own (or perceived at least) sex appeal to win Mimika's favor. To not mention the idolization her classmates indulge in.

I mean, that's unrelated to the child model thing. And the idolization her classmates indulge in isn't too out of character imo.

Also, I dunno if you recall being a child but when I was one there were a lot of kids who tried to fake as tho they had more experience with things than they did or knew more than they did or were more mature than they were. I don't think Ririha has any intention of taking things to a sexual level. Her seduction is just emphasizing her cuteness after all. To her understanding a lolicon may just be an older person who is attracted to kids, without any awareness of all the gross awfulness that may entail.

Like, if I was going to say they're acting old for their age I'd probably say they're acting more like sixth graders than fourth graders but that's it really. In fact I'd probably go as far as to say Ririha acts more her age than Yuzumori?

At no point any adult has been shown in that manga. Your issues about sexualization, or whatever, are clearly not addressed in the "world" the author created and are clearly irrelevant. The author isn't writing hentai or a social comment. They are just writing a romantic comedy where some characters are 4th graders.

Stop inserting reality and your triggers in my age gap yuri manga.

Unfortunately telling them to stop isn't going to work. Their dumb-ass arguments that clog up threads are for some reason more important then the actual damn story itself. This isn't the only thread who succumbed to a pointless debate about something completely irrelevant about the manga. That's what happens when it comes to places other then Japan viewing Manga and/or Anime. Turns out some small little pointless and irrelevant thing that happened in said Manga/Anime is a big no no in another country. Take a look at Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Death Note, Tokyo Ghoul, etc.

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At no point any adult has been shown in that manga. Your issues about sexualization, or whatever, are clearly not addressed in the "world" the author created and are clearly irrelevant. The author isn't writing hentai or a social comment. They are just writing a romantic comedy where some characters are 4th graders.

Stop inserting reality and your triggers in my age gap yuri manga.

I would really love the arguments to stop but I can't fully agree with you saying this is purely romance or comedy.

I mean, that's unrelated to the child model thing. And the idolization her classmates indulge in isn't too out of character imo.

Idolization is not bad by itself because yeah, is a perfectly normal way kids act at that age. The issue comes on the way is contextualized by Ririha's behavior. If she weren't so devoted to the gig (think on Hina's reaction to her own modelling career) it wouldn't be as jarring.

Also, I dunno if you recall being a child but when I was one there were a lot of kids who tried to fake as tho they had more experience with things than they did or knew more than they did or were more mature than they were. I don't think Ririha has any intention of taking things to a sexual level. Her seduction is just emphasizing her cuteness after all. To her understanding a lolicon may just be an older person who is attracted to kids, without any awareness of all the gross awfulness that may entail.

You're right and Ririha probably isn't trying to take things that far but again, the issue is that she is weaponizing her age to led Mimika stray. That conveys a degree of awareness that gets unsettling when is paired with the way the series has treated being a lolicon so far

Like, if I was going to say they're acting old for their age I'd probably say they're acting more like sixth graders than fourth graders but that's it really. In fact I'd probably go as far as to say Ririha acts more her age than Yuzumori?

Acting more like her age would mean she's closer to Kanna's "rival" than to Veronica trying to steal Archie from Betty.

Yuzumori actually acts like one would expect a child in her circumstances to act. Even her affection to Mimika comes off more like her seeing Mimika as an older sister or a foster mother than anything romantic.

At no point any adult has been shown in that manga. Your issues about sexualization, or whatever, are clearly not addressed in the "world" the author created and are clearly irrelevant. The author isn't writing hentai or a social comment. They are just writing a romantic comedy where some characters are 4th graders.

Stop inserting reality and your triggers in my age gap yuri manga.

You can't use this argument either because Yuzumori and Mimika's relationship isn't happening within a void ala Majyo to Houki to Kurobuchi Megane where being a lolicon was a total joke and there were no real conflict over it. Here the issue is treated more seriously and the conflict over being one is fundamental part of Mimika's character. Plus you have other characters reacting negatively at Mimika's urges. Hell, Mimika is a compelling protagonist because she is aware of her urges and does the best thing for Yuzumori regardless of them.

Yuzumori actually acts like one would expect a child in her circumstances to act. Even her affection to Mimika comes off more like her seeing Mimika as an older sister or a foster mother than anything romantic.

Are we even reading the same manga?

If you think there's actual, 100% romantic love from Yuzumori to Mimika, then no. I guess we don't

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If you think there's actual, 100% romantic love from Yuzumori to Mimika, then no. I guess we don't

So it's 99% Okay.

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So far, all Yuzumori has wanted out of her relationship with Mimika is affection and companionship; she's never (or at least hasn't yet) indicated any desire to pursue sexual interaction with her. As Dark_Tzitzimine pointed out, this is obviously built from Yuzumori's strained relationship with her mother. Though I won't go as far as calling it completely aromantic, I agree that it's fairly believable behavior for a child in elementary school (disbelief suspended for the "falling in True Loveᵀᴹ with a high schooler" part).

Ririha is the reciprocal: she's shown no interest in getting to know Mimika, or spending time with her for the sake of it. She's trying to elicit a sexual response from a complete stranger and planning to use that response to manipulate them. The story has yet to explain what that's built from...

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I think Yuzumori's feelings are romantic. Romantic just doesn't always mean sexual. Especially when you're a kid. Like, Yuzumori's feelings for Mimika do resemble a crush. Hell, I definitely crushed on older girls when I was tiny. I don't think her relationship with her mother means she's trying to fill that familial gap with Mimika as much as she's just straight up lonely and she's insecure about the relationship. I don't think it has to be true love for this to be true. In fact there's nothing I've seen that comes across as like idealized true love. Just a little girl crushing on an older girl who reciprocates her feelings. If it wasn't romantic, her confession wouldn't have been nearly such a big deal to her. She wouldn't have wanted to kiss Mimika on the cheek like that.