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joined Sep 21, 2014

Unlike the other typos, "mosnsters" is still there D:

St1
joined Feb 17, 2013

yay, it been fixed

I-I just realised, that while we were all distracted by "you're mother"...

in [the] hospital D:
im so sorry lol

Actually leaving the "the" out isn't all that rare in colloquial English.

Yup - actually I think I'm more likely to say ' I was in hospital' or so and so was in hospital - sounds more natural to me.

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

yay, it been fixed

I-I just realised, that while we were all distracted by "you're mother"...

in [the] hospital D:
im so sorry lol

Actually leaving the "the" out isn't all that rare in colloquial English.

Yup - actually I think I'm more likely to say ' I was in hospital' or so and so was in hospital - sounds more natural to me.

Must be a regional thing because it's driving me nuts trying to say it out loud without the "the".

Vegitab%20profile%20pic%20smoll%20tumblr
joined Sep 21, 2014

yay, it been fixed

I-I just realised, that while we were all distracted by "you're mother"...

in [the] hospital D:
im so sorry lol

Actually leaving the "the" out isn't all that rare in colloquial English.

Yup - actually I think I'm more likely to say ' I was in hospital' or so and so was in hospital - sounds more natural to me.

Must be a regional thing because it's driving me nuts trying to say it out loud without the "the".

Me too. I guess it depends on the person/how they've learned it(?)

Stroke_it
joined Aug 1, 2014

If the wolf fell unconscious amidst the berries, surely she would have realized what it was that she ate when she woke up? The berries are right there, she didn't eat all of them.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

If the wolf fell unconscious amidst the berries, surely she would have realized what it was that she ate when she woke up? The berries are right there, she didn't eat all of them.

Maybe she "sleep"-walked or was found by someone and carried home?

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Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

If the wolf fell unconscious amidst the berries, surely she would have realized what it was that she ate when she woke up? The berries are right there, she didn't eat all of them.

If she was disoriented afterwards, she might not have been paying attention to things like that. After all, she'd just fallen off a cliff so she probably had a concussion.

Roomfortwo
joined Feb 11, 2014

Obviously the berries were in disguise. -o-

Images
joined Dec 15, 2016

Yes she'll got eaten... in another sense.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Itzameapotterhead
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joined Jul 4, 2016

I was actually expecting that they'll pull a harada and the wolf eats the bunny instead but this is better

Photo
joined Feb 24, 2017

It would be hillarious if Wolf-san meets Belle's mother and she went from "Nice to meet you m'am" to "Your daughter calls me mommy too"

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Smol%20dankkonata
joined Oct 10, 2018

That was just plain wholesome, loved it!

Cat1
joined Jun 19, 2020

So~~~. . . . . . . . . . . . . CUTE

last edited at Sep 19, 2020 8:26PM

Smol%20dankkonata
joined Oct 10, 2018

I swear on this oopsie

Emksz5tuyaupjuem
joined Apr 18, 2023

so cute~

Chimera
joined Aug 2, 2023

Yeah, the artstyle's cute, but I don't see any wholesomeness here. "Wolf-san seemed unapproachable at first" - no, you're just a racist little bugger who immediatly assumes that foreigner is out to shank you. I'd forgive that if there was character growth, but no, only the same "raw meat" line re-iterated throughout.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Yeah, the artstyle's cute, but I don't see any wholesomeness here. "Wolf-san seemed unapproachable at first" - no, you're just a racist little bugger who immediatly assumes that foreigner is out to shank you. I'd forgive that if there was character growth, but no, only the same "raw meat" line re-iterated throughout.

Um, as anthropomorphic series like Beastars are all about, relationships between carnivores and herbivores (i.e.,predators and prey) are not exactly the same as those among human races/ethnicities.

It’s not “prejudice” to be wary of the kind of beings whose basic instinct is to kill and devour you.

Chimera
joined Aug 2, 2023

Um, as anthropomorphic series like Beastars are all about, relationships between carnivores and herbivores (i.e.,predators and prey) are not exactly the same as those among human races/ethnicities.

Relying on intertextuality seems far fetched; I see no sign of such a conflict being invoked. Reading the beginning, the other patrons don't exposition-dump us with "those are known threats" but spread rumours about outcasts. Actual wildlife isn't wary of Wolf-san and she never shows violent impulses; in fact, she seems to be unaware of this being a concern to others at all. The reading of the Wolf-people being undeservedly stigmatized comes natural.

It’s not “prejudice” to be wary of the kind of beings whose basic instinct is to kill and devour you.

Of course not. Action against a group of people based on proven danger is sensible, action against them based on unfounded rumours is discrimination. Baring evidence to the former, I must assume the latter.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Um, as anthropomorphic series like Beastars are all about, relationships between carnivores and herbivores (i.e.,predators and prey) are not exactly the same as those among human races/ethnicities.

Relying on intertextuality seems far fetched; I see no sign of such a conflict being invoked. Reading the beginning, the other patrons don't exposition-dump us with "those are known threats" but spread rumours about outcasts. Actual wildlife isn't wary of Wolf-san and she never shows violent impulses; in fact, she seems to be unaware of this being a concern to others at all.

Obviously, the wolf- MC is positioned as an unexpected exception to the rule, as indicated by the pair of people saying, "Belle-chan, you'll get eaten!" at the end.

"This isn't wholesome because racism" strikes me as the far-fetched take here.

Chimera
joined Aug 2, 2023

"This isn't wholesome because racism" strikes me as the far-fetched take here.

Arguing based on exterior sources is what irks me. I don't know Beastars, but if you point at its ~8 million units where there is such a predator-prey dynamic, I point at the just-as-big RWBY where this is a metaphor for racism (probably, I'm not up-to-date on it). Then you name Zootopia with its dozen of millions of viewers, I'll call Arknights with as many downloads, and we achieved nothing by bringing external tropes into this.

If you want to interpret this that way, fine, many did. But I couldn't. It reminds me a bit of the discussion on Clumsy Call last month, with a similar disparity between those who recognized an uncomfortable dynamic and those who didn't.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

"This isn't wholesome because racism" strikes me as the far-fetched take here.

Arguing based on exterior sources is what irks me. I don't know Beastars, but if you point at its ~8 million units where there is such a predator-prey dynamic, I point at the just-as-big RWBY where this is a metaphor for racism (probably, I'm not up-to-date on it). Then you name Zootopia with its dozen of millions of viewers, I'll call Arknights with as many downloads, and we achieved nothing by bringing external tropes into this.

If you want to interpret this that way, fine, many did. But I couldn't. It reminds me a bit of the discussion on Clumsy Call last month, with a similar disparity between those who recognized an uncomfortable dynamic and those who didn't.

I guess today is Opposite Day—you get “irked” when I reference another work where social tensions between anthropomorphic herbivores and carnivores are the central theme, then you “refute” my argument by citing some other series I’ve never heard of.

By internal evidence alone this story is obviously about a naive but good-hearted herbivore protagonist learning about an exceptionally benign individual carnivore. If you choose to find that “uncomfortable,” and “unwholesome,” by all means knock yourself out.

Chimera
joined Aug 2, 2023

I guess today is Opposite Day—you get “irked” when I reference another work where social tensions between anthropomorphic herbivores and carnivores are the central theme, then you “refute” my argument by citing some other series I’ve never heard of.

By internal evidence alone this story is obviously about a naive but good-hearted herbivore protagonist learning about an exceptionally benign individual carnivore. If you choose to find that “uncomfortable,” and “unwholesome,” by all means knock yourself out.

I'm going to stop here because I don't believe you're arguing in good faith. I know for a fact you're not stupid, so failure to understand the point of "we both can just go ahead naming franchises to support our reading, never achieving everything" or the very simple premise of comparing a discussion over a work vs comparing the works directly (you're not clear which "series" you've never heard of) is probably feigned.

All in all you're awfully combative over not considering your reading authoritative and accepting different oppinions. As I'm not here for pointless arguments, I guess I'll "give up". You win, gold star, 100 points!

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