. Or are you telling me you think CSI or Law and Order are accurate representations of the way the legal system works in the US?

It's not?

What is with people obsession with realism? Like, in what moment the series even implied it would be a manual to BDSM?

You'll note that this was NOT at any time presented as a fantasy or SF story, thus placing it in some semblance of the real world, with the characters taking part in some semblance of real activities, albeit clearly hampered by the author's misunderstanding of how they actually work. So yes, it's implied to take place in the real world, magical aphrodisiac aside.

So? Is a fictional story. For definition the audience have come to accept breaks from reality due artistic reasons. Or are you telling me you think CSI or Law and Order are accurate representations of the way the legal system works in the US?

Um....both of them are regularly criticized on those grounds. You're not helping your case here.

Being a fictional story doesn't net you a Get Out Of Criticism Free card, and if you're going to take a foundational aspect of the story and veer dramatically from the real-world practice without making it clear you're not setting it in the real world, then you're writing a Bad Story. It's really as simple as that.

Have not read since ch3.. but this comment section really makes me wanna get in there again...

What is with people obsession with realism? Like, in what moment the series even implied it would be a manual to BDSM?

You'll note that this was NOT at any time presented as a fantasy or SF story

Not that that would be an excuse. In half decent fantasy and SF, you make the reader aware of where and how you are departing from reality. This is essential for the reader to be able to navigate what's going on, to keep grappling with the story as story, the people as people. Even when those departures are really radical, like "The story takes place in a dream state where normal cause and effect is suspended and people's responses come from subconscious archetypal stuff underlying their normal selves", you can't just keep pulling different changes out of your ass.
I'm sick and tired of people constantly thinking they're saying something clever when they try to cover for crap characterization or otherwise terrible craftsmanship by saying "Oh well it's a story, you can't judge it by reality"--of course you can. Stories are about something. If they bear no resemblance to how people would act or what would happen in the situations described, if they make no sense on the storyteller's own terms, that's important.

I find it interesting that although almost everyone agrees that this story (and for that matter the art) is crap, it is still one of the "Most Popular of Past 7 Days". I guess either everyone loves a train wreck, nobody has any taste, or most likely just many people will read anything if it promises to involve SM.

I find it interesting that although almost everyone agrees that this story (and for that matter the art) is crap, it is still one of the "Most Popular of Past 7 Days". I guess either everyone loves a train wreck, nobody has any taste, or most likely just many people will read anything if it promises to involve SM.

Yuri BDSM is a popular theme with a lot of readers, but "Most popular of the past 7 days" only counts clicks, not how many comments with positive feedback have been given. If you compare the number of times this work has been clicked on to the number of comments that has been given for the 6 chapters that have been uploaded here, chances are people just read the first few pages of a chapter, then decide they don't like it and leave without a word.

Hey hey chillax. Dont get your panties twisted in a knot. They explain in chapter six. The story is made in THAILAND with THAI girls and written in Thai language and Thai background need I say more? Rules? What the f^©k is that? Thailand don't give a shit about rules. it's just BDSM all out, no rules. Free for all or something. OK now you can grill me but be gentle please I know I mention BDSM when there has been absolutely no trace of BDSM in the manga so far. It's like a cock tease. Tell the audience "There's YURI in here" but then no trace of YURI detected. And then BAM! dafuq is that.

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Hey hey chillax. Dont get your panties twisted in a knot. They explain in chapter six. The story is made in THAILAND with THAI girls and written in Thai language and Thai background need I say more? Rules? What the f^©k is that? Thailand don't give a shit about rules. it's just BDSM all out, no rules. Free for all or something. OK now you can grill me but be gentle please I know I mention BDSM when there has been absolutely no trace of BDSM in the manga so far. It's like a cock tease. Tell the audience "There's YURI in here" but then no trace of YURI detected. And then BAM! dafuq is that.

Oh, so it's from Thailand! Now, that explains everything! not.

I don't think there's anyone who didn't know, that this story was written by a THAI. Contrary to popular belief, a lot of people actually do their research. However, how has the general setting and the nationality of the author anything to do with the quality of the story? If disregarding rules turns a story into a bad one, then you should either start following those "rules" or accept the fact, that people are gonna start criticizing stuff - no matter where you're from or where your story is set. You can't just go "Oh, I'mma write a story with no plot and lots of random fetish porn and tag it "yuri" and "romance" just for clicks and fuck the rules" and expect people to not complain. That aside, saying something like "Thailand doesn't care about the rules" is basically insulting the people of an entire country based on one story you've read, do you even realize that? Plus, it isn't even true.

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"Thailand doesn't care about the rules"

if it would be true, Ratana wouldn't have problem to publish her (Uncensored) NSFW works on Ookbee... Just saying

I'm a simple guy.
I see Yuri tag
I read.

Tho I kind of can predict what is going to happen with that black haired lady coming into the picture

I usually lurk around and don't bother with the forum but this whole story is so vile I was curious to see what had been said. I'm glad a lot of people agree that it's horrible representation of BDSM, very 50 shades of crap like and that the plot is non existent ("I have a stalker so I'm gonna pretend to have a girlfriend, oooh here's a random waitress let's assault and proposition her"= flawless logic).
Still it's disturbing to read that some don't seem to analyse the attitude of the OL as rapey/sexual harrassment crap. I mean I don't mind the manga trope where a character is a bit aggressive in flirtation but the two things are completely different: there's really nothing hot or seductive about being cornered in a toilet stall by a half naked woman who asks inappropriate questions and may or may not make you lose your job. Those who doubt it should try it out in real life, see how it turns out.

There's a class!? Sign me up!!

I have a hard time telling them apart. Except the dom wears a tie, they are drawn almost identically.

I find it interesting that although almost everyone agrees that this story (and for that matter the art) is crap, it is still one of the "Most Popular of Past 7 Days". I guess either everyone loves a train wreck, nobody has any taste, or most likely just many people will read anything if it promises to involve SM.

Or we read in the hope that history finally gets some sort of sense. xD

I find it interesting that although almost everyone agrees that this story (and for that matter the art) is crap, it is still one of the "Most Popular of Past 7 Days". I guess either everyone loves a train wreck, nobody has any taste, or most likely just many people will read anything if it promises to involve SM.

I will read/watch pretty much anything if it involves lesbian BDSM.

If you want to read good, realistic yuri BDSM read Sunstone. Probably the closest thing you'll get that's out there right now.

If you want to read good, realistic yuri BDSM read Sunstone. Probably the closest thing you'll get that's out there right now.

This^
We're also talking bout a healthy realistic BDSM relationship and teaches you a lot about it.

I'll take the B any day. It's fun.

The D can be fun if roleplayed well.

But the S and the M are not really my cup of tea.

The fact that they are almost always bundled together is annoying, because they are all completely different kinks;

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Was hoping there'd be alot of bdsm.

Not alot of bdsm was had.

This was somewhat sweet in its weird and quirky way. In page 18 on the last panels I saw half of a face of a woman. She looks like she is stalking them I’m guessing the ex-girlfriend probably hired her to stalk the mistress. I have to say though I am enjoying this despite its trashiness. It’s fun to see what comes next.

To be honest I liked this chapter a lot more than the others. Certainly it wasn't nearly so full of problems as the others, and the dialogue was a lot closer to natural. Not all the way of course, but let's not hope for miracles here.

Uh oh .. looks like trouble D:

a challenger approaches!

I would find it hilarious if the author accidentally wrote the villain/rival/ex/whatever she'd going to be as more appealing than the MC.

I have read a bit of raw version and it gave me some sort of fluttering feeling(heh) in my heart...

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Oh, this chapter was cute!