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joined Oct 26, 2016

Considering the context of well, her being a doctor, it could just mean that she has a patient in need of her care lying in a bed...

Sure if a patient is waiting it would be bad but why specify that the man is nice? It does nothing except make the phrase "nice man waiting for me in bed" heavily implicative of something else, which is exactly what she wanted to get the spy to confront her.

The whole logic about making sure the spy tries harder to survive makes no sense. If there's someone else, then if the spy dies the doctor won't be alone, no big deal. Wouldn't it be more convincing if there wasn't anyone else? If the spy dies then the doctor would be devastated with nobody to fall back on. The spy has way more incentive to survive and return in this case.

IMO it's a ploy by the doctor to force more affection out of the spy. By implying or actually having someone else, the spy has to show more effort to not lose to the other party, thus instead of going of on the mission the spy spends more time with her. It's heavily manipulative and while I'd like more spy stories, this one just rubs me the wrong way.

As a last thought, if the doctor is just making sure to have a backup relationship in case the spy dies then the spy should find a backup herself in case the doctor leaves her.

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joined Oct 6, 2014

Got some major Mercy/Widowmaker feels from this one.

Anyway, doesn't seem like the doctor has a husband or partner. Feel like there would have been a touch more angst. Seems like she was jusr using the old jealousy card.

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joined Sep 4, 2017

damn it.. I want more ^

Jpegnagasawa
joined Feb 19, 2014

same question: they were gonna have sex there? in that state?

Doctoraaaaaa
joined Apr 14, 2015

and they had sex there...

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joined Apr 23, 2016

to all yall talking bout cheating and being loose........it's called Casual Sex and there's nothing wrong with having it

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Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

to all yall talking bout cheating and being loose........it's called Casual Sex and there's nothing wrong with having it

There is nothing casual about any of this. The whole point was to make the spy girl jealous, you don't have jealousy with casual sex.

Ewe
joined Jan 22, 2017

As I read it, they are in an open relationship for now and spy wants to make enough money for the next step. Doc doesn't want her to get hurt so much, so she picked up this random guy to make her jealous. They seem to meet often, not just when Spy need treatment.

I guess Spy's work made it hard to get together for real because of her fear, so random guy is nothing more than an excuse.

It could be a total lie, too. We do not hear or see anything about him.

"If you'll let yourself be killed, I'll never be your girlfriend :<"

Capture
joined Mar 12, 2014

Ok, why do all seem to assume spy and doc is a thing already?

How are they not a couple? Right after spy telling doc ab the tropical island dream, which is a good thing with no draw back for doc, doc just told her "i'm gonna sleep with some guy." If doc is together with spy, and is also a cheater, why would she mention it at that moment? It's more like she felt terrible because this cutie is risking her life for her and use that as a way to say "stay away", then when spy got all hurt, doc finally decided to speak her mind, but she was a tsun, so she spun her last statement into a clumsy way of saying "Please be more careful w your mission, also I miss you."

Spy might be going after doc, while doc is like "your job is too dangerous, i dont wanna moan anyone while im still young." Clearly doc likes spy, but she might also be someone who has lost her beloved(s) and doesn't want to get in a serious relationship again.

With all that said, truth is this is a badly written short. Spy is talking about their future as a couple, but doc acts as if they aren't in a relationship at all, this clearly contradicts. Also their faces are so similar and it annoys me.

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joined May 4, 2013

Cheating is not allowed! I hate this story.

Not cheating if it's just a ont-time thing, she just told her it being not serious.

to all yall talking bout cheating and being loose........it's called Casual Sex and there's nothing wrong with having it

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joined Sep 11, 2014

Clearly the spy isn't acting like its news that the doctor sleeps around, so most likely they've discussed a compromise in their relationship. I don't think its realistic for her to expect the doctor to just wait around for her. Occasionally the more adult yuri relationships that aren't just truelovetogetherforeverfluff are refreshing.

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joined Aug 12, 2013

Aw, it'd be interesting to see this become a full series.

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

"If you don't like the thought of me running off to someone else..."

It's like some people just don't read what's right on the page and make up their own stories in their heads.

joined Mar 26, 2014

Mannn I'd absolutely love to get a series out of this. See their relationship from the beginning and after this instance.

also it's pretty obvious their relationship is one of fondness, but obviously not set in stone due to the spy's life styles and possibility of.. you know.. never coming back. so at least if the doctor is actually seeing other people she's being realistic and not setting herself up for a relationship with no future.

Not that unusual a sort of relationship in spy movies, really. Which is probably why we're seeing it here.

Bruh I'm happy seeing it at all. Love this oneshot and hope for more. :D

Bapa%20nada
joined Oct 20, 2017

This was very sweet. "You want to have sex here?" I love that she isn't coy about it at all.

Cheating is not allowed! I hate this story.

well, thats bisexual tag for u

Implying... Bisexual women/people are unfaithful...? .___.

No, but since most stories on the site are yuri, the bisexual tag implies another person (a man) in the relationship which usually means two-timing or cheating.

No it doesn't. The bisexual tag only refers to sexual orientation of a character. We have a seperate tag for cheating. This stuff is pretty self-explanatory.

to all yall talking bout cheating and being loose........it's called Casual Sex and there's nothing wrong with having it

There is nothing casual about any of this. The whole point was to make the spy girl jealous, you don't have jealousy with casual sex.

You are right in that it's not casual sex because there is clearly romantic attraction between them, but that doesn't mean that it's a committed relationship, or that they've agreed to be exclusive. Jealousy can arise in a non-committed or non-exclusive relationship, too. People are funny like that. And relationships can become committed or exclusive over time.

With all that said, truth is this is a badly written short. Spy is talking about their future as a couple, but doc acts as if they aren't in a relationship at all, this clearly contradicts. Also their faces are so similar and it annoys me.

You are being obtuse; this is not bad writing. It's a little thing called a conflict. Maybe you have already heard of it.

We know that the doctor is trying to compel the spy to spend less time on missions if she wants to keep her around. We know that the spy is horny/wants to spend time with the doctor. We know that the doctor has been "cold lately. But we don't know everything. Maybe the spy just wants a committed relationship, and the doctor doesn't want to get serious with her if she's constantly in danger. We just can't know for sure. This short is 3 pages long, and you can't expect it to be as well-explained as a full one-shot or a series.

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Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

No it doesn't. The bisexual tag only refers to sexual orientation of a character. We have a seperate tag for cheating. This stuff is pretty self-explanatory.

No, it doesn't. There are plenty of stories with bisexual characters that don't have the tag, the tag usually gets added if the bisexual girl is in a relationship with a dude at some point in the story, meaning that the dude either gets NTRed or the other girl gets cheated on.

You are right in that it's not casual sex because there is clearly romantic attraction between them, but that doesn't mean that it's a committed relationship, or that they've agreed to be exclusive. Jealousy can arise in a non-committed or non-exclusive relationship, too. People are funny like that. And relationships can become committed or exclusive over time.

Except the doctor specifically says "If you don't like the thought of me running off to someone else..." If the relationship wasn't exclusive to begin with then how can she be running from the spy to someone else if she wasn't never committed to the spy to begin with? It's clearly cheating.

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Bapa%20nada
joined Oct 20, 2017

Sure, the bisexual tag is only applied if the sexual orientation is relevant, i.e. the character has at some point been in a relationship with a man. "Had at some point been with a man" doesn't mean she's still with him. I've seen plenty of stories with bisexual tag where there was absolutely 0 cheating going on (i.e. the guy was just an ex), and maybe one or two where there was. That's just anecdotal evidence, but whatever. There are separate tags for the two things.

As for this story, cheating implies secrecy and deception. If the doctor plans on running off, she is not being secretive or deceptive at all. Therefore, it is totally possible that the two are not in a committed or exclusive (it's possible that they are open to multiple partners, i.e. polyamory) relationship yet, or the doctor is just pulling the spy's leg, and trying to convince her to stop with the dangerous missions. You have no evidence for the cheating. It's possible, but we have no reason to conclude with any confidence that it's happening. You have a right to that interpretation, but it's not in the text. So stop trying to force your edge on everyone, Cannibal.

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Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

cheating implies secrecy and deception.

No, it doesn't. Someone can cheat, straight up tell their SO and it doesn't magically become not cheating.

Therefore, it is totally possible that the two are not in a committed or exclusive (it's possible that they are open to multiple partners, i.e. polyamory) relationship yet

Except I have already quoted part of the dialogue with the doctor clearly saying "running to someone else". There is no running to someone else if they have already agreed to an open relationship.

or the doctor is just pulling the spy's leg, and trying to convince her to stop with the dangerous missions. You have no evidence for the cheating. It's possible, but we have no reason to conclude with any confidence that it's happening.

Except for the whole doctor clearly stating that she is indeed cheating with some guy, last bubble even has her asking what excuse she is going to tell him.

Bapa%20nada
joined Oct 20, 2017

So can I assume that you realized that you didn't have a point about the bisexual tag? Seeing as you didn't address what I said about it the last time.

There was no flashback that showed that they became exclusive. The doctor knows that she can make the spy jealous, that's all the "running off to someone else" line is doing. It is not solid evidence for anything. And why the hell would the doctor be asking for payment if the spy is her girlfriend? She might be talking about sexual favors, but that's just an alternate interpretation, and we have no reason to be confident in either direction.

I've already told you that people can get jealous in a non-exclusive or non-committed relationship, because people are not robots. They are prone to irrational behavior. Just because the spy wants to be exclusive or committed with the doctor, doesn't mean that they already are.

Cheating does imply secrecy and deception, or if the unfaithful party is fully transparent about it, they need to have a complete disregard for the other party's feelings/well being. I don't see proof for any of that; the doctor is concerned about the spy's well being, and wants her to stop going on dangerous missions.

The last bubble isn't necessarily a thought bubble, it could just be the doctor saying it out loud, perhaps to pull the spy's leg again. She even says "You want to have sex here?" in the same bubble. That would make even more sense said out loud. And even if it is a thought bubble, again, we have no evidence supporting the claim that they are exclusive or committed yet.

We do not know everything; this is a 3-page short, and all of your supposed "evidence" is circumstantial and can be easily explained with anything other than cheating. Your case is just not conclusive. You are free to interpret things any way you want, but that's not going to make it text.

I could even say that we have no conclusive case for any of the directions, because we have so little to go on. Committed/exclusive or not? Technically both are possible, no conclusive case either way. Is doctor with a guy on the side or not? (If yes, is she exclusive/committed with him or not?) We don't have enough evidence either way once more. Can we please just agree that it's pointless to try to claim/prove anything with absolute confidence in these aspects of this short, and move on? Why are you so hell-bent on trying to make this short look edgier than it is?

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Nice art. Wish there was more. Hope cheating wasn't implied. That would stink.

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