I agree too, that the writer seems to project her ex on Seju, then making a saint out of Sumin.
She was even surprised when some people were telling her how Sumin is not a good character.
There's this extreme victim mentality for Sumin, that excuses everything bad she has done and also that she deserves everything good on her even if she is an asshole too.

Looks like it, I can feel the writer doesn't like Seju at all! She gave Sumin a very happy ending and express that Sumin and Seju will never breakup! but Seju's relationship with Won seems vague and there's a possibility that Won and Seju may break up! That's hard for me to accept. I shouldn't have started this manga!

It would be one of the best yuris or even romance in general if Seju and Sumin ended up together. But it was obvious that wasn't their purpose right from the start.

Indeed, but Seju did one “mistake” and regret it
She didn’t do it purpose, she didn’t dump Sumin for another women, she didn’t get married to a man and left Sumin all alone. Even if it was the case, it’s too much to hold it against Seju for ten years. Seju didn’t go to America to stay with Sumin, she didn’t apply to the same college because of Sumin again, and didn’t live together even after 7 years of dating! And then let’s punish Seju for one mistake
When Sumin herself cheated, and got forgiveness in a blink of an eye. The story is full with double standards that it disgust me

Do Sumin and Seju study in America together?

Sweet.

I've lurked around Yuri/GL comments section and after all these years, WDTFS is still that burning MJ bush that keeps readers and fans high in make-believe they can decipher some of its badly written chapters.

I'm newbie just finished Wdtfs. I saw some said the writer mentioned about Seju breaks up with Won? But why? Sumin and Sungji got married but why just want Seju to be a loner? Won is a nice person why thinking of break them off?

Seju didn't actually break up with Won. All the writer suggested from the Q&A, was that there was a possibility it could happen in the future. I mean who knows what the future holds? One of them might get bored and decide to look for another partner, an illness or accident happened or they could actually die old together.

I only read this manhwa recently and I'm very late to the party, but it's so reassuring to find the discussion and to share the view with many. Guess that's what the forums are for.

This way of writing reminds me of Ichigo 100% (one of my youthful mistakes). Great art, started out with fated girl, ended with the bland one, but all so much more interesting compared to the dumb i-dont-get-who-can-love-this protagonist. By the end Sungji seems so much like a third wheel, and the Will side story is the highlight of why Sumin is so hated.

After chapter 50, like people said, I pretty much read for the boobs, and continued till the end for the boobs. Amen.

Same here. The story has been nothing more than a dumpster fire, so I only stuck around for the Yuri porn, mostly for the chance to see more of President's boobs, which I suspect is the main attraction to this series, lol.

I'm newbie just finished Wdtfs. I saw some said the writer mentioned about Seju breaks up with Won? But why? Sumin and Sungji got married but why just want Seju to be a loner? Won is a nice person why thinking of break them off?

Seju didn't actually break up with Won. All the writer suggested from the Q&A, was that there was a possibility it could happen in the future. I mean who knows what the future holds? One of them might get bored and decide to look for another partner, an illness or accident happened or they could actually die old together.

Yeah, why the author just mentioned about possiblity that Seju will break up with Won, means after so many years, Seju is not able to love anyone? Even Won is such a nice person but she doesn't care? They suggested obviously they know Seju and Won is not endgame and Seju is gonna stuck missing Sumin only for her whole life, then where is the healing for Seju?!
And why the writer didn't mentioned that there was a possibility that Sumin will break up with Sungji, kinda of double standard that the writer just want Sumin and Sungji to be always happy together forever! Seju to them was just a love slave to their favourite Sumin!

I'm regretting reading this manga but I love Seju.

Same here. The story has been nothing more than a dumpster fire, so I only stuck around for the Yuri porn, mostly for the chance to see more of President's boobs, which I suspect is the main attraction to this series, lol.

I like Seju's boobs too but I hate to see her only having sex with Sumin who doesn't love her anymore! It's sad, with her nice body she should have tried with others in stead od just stick to Sumin. I think Sumin just had sex with her in order to torture her, these were hate sex. I pity Seju why she let thses happened to her for 10 years. I mean Seju with such nice body, many would like to have a good sex with her! I skip most of her sex scenes with Sumin. Thus, there's nothing much for me but I'm still hopelessly obsessed on Seju!

Honestly, even if SuminxSungji do end up togother like most people have predicted, I hope that Seju will still end up alone without moving on with another person, I want to keep her loyal love till the end. Such a sad thing that she would move on with another person. Her undying and unbreakable love for Sumin despite of every bad thing or hardships is cool no matter how toxic like everyone said. I know it's selfish but I dont like seeing her loving someone else. Let that love become eternal and forever :), to prove Seju herself that there is thing that lasts forever :)

I do not agree with Seju being alone for the rest of her life! This is so cruel to her! Love become eternal and forever when the person you love is with you! But Sumin is married to Sungji now, Seju should move on and be able to love again, that's what means live a life! Seju is actually a person with love and since her first love left her, even if Seju fell in love with other, doesn't mean she is not loyal, it's Sumin who left her for good! What's the meaning of loyal love to that person when that person find her own love and doesn't love you anymore! Seju should give her loyal love to someone who actually loves her in the future! She's such a loving person and it's cruel to make her to be lonely for the rest of her life! Sumin is too weak, I don't mind Seju fall for a stronger man or woman who can support her in future than miserably missing Sumin for the rest of her life! Seju deserves better!

Let Seju's love become eternal and forever to prove herself that there is thing lasts forever is so unfair to Seju! Caused Sumin is in love with Sungji and she does not love Seju any more! Sumin can find someone else but why not Seju! With Seju's beauty and charisma, there will be many people who fall for her and because she loves Sumin means she's not allow to let go and give a chance to other for loving her. She goita stay single for her life even Sumin has already got married! That's ridiculous and I don't think Seju is that stupid in order to prove thing last forever even that thing does not exist any more. I mean if Sumin still remain single or died, then it is fair to say that Seju should end up alone without moving on with anyone caused Sumin is still there forever! But Sumin got married now, why can't Seju move on! She has already repaid her debt to Sumin for 10 years and that's a long time for a woman. We should give her a happy life after all things happened to her!

Sumin and Sungji got married, they are always the favourite couple for Team Gaji! But I wish Seju got her happiness too! Even though she makes mistakes but she has been suffering for so long too! Do Won is a nice and tough woman to support Seju but I think there are so much different between them and she can't compete with Sumin at all in term of education and wealth! Sumin and Seju has the same level of educational background but seems Do Won is just a normal gratuate with no money, no car lisense, how is she gonna match with Seju? I think the writer just doesn't want Seju to have a happy ending! Since Sumin and Sungji are so Mary Sue( a will from Sumin to Sungji) , why can't they create a wealthy and successful lover for Seju! It hurts me to see Seju suffer alone!

Sis, what's done is done. My advice, is you let it be and move on. The chance of that narcissistic writer even seeing reasons on how Seju was badly treated or what went wrong with the story, which readers over the past have conveyed towards her, has about the same odds of a meteor landing on Earth to put an end to humanity.

And I doubt we'll be seeing another major work from her. She probably knows she won't be able to make the second series top WDTFS or come anywhere close to replicating its success. Since she's afraid of damaging her reputation, she's contend to play it safe by continue to milk this series.

If you want a GL with great story and characters then I suggest you look no further than Her Tale of Shimchong. Or if you're looking for one with modern setting, there's Blooming Sequence which imo is underrated.

Sis, what's done is done. My advice, is you let it be and move on. The chance of that narcissistic writer even seeing reasons on how Seju was badly treated or what went wrong with the story, which readers over the past have conveyed towards her, has about the same odds of a meteor landing on Earth to put an end to humanity.

And I doubt we'll be seeing another major work from her. She probably knows she won't be able to make the second series top WDTFS or come anywhere close to replicating its success. Since she's afraid of damaging her reputation, she's contend to play it safe by continue to milk this series.

If you want a GL with great story and characters then I suggest you look no further than Her Tale of Shimchong. Or if you're looking for one with modern setting, there's Blooming Sequence which imo is underrated.

Sis, thank you for your kind advise! I had finished Her Tale of Shimchong for quite some time and it was great to read with a beautiful ending! Is Blooming Sequence ended already? I only opt for happy ending coz my heart is not strong! I kind of regreted to read WDTFS and I now I haven't got over it because of Seju and also because I just finished it so it's still flesh in my mind! The art is good but why can't they have a new story instead of milking on WDTFS which many still feel depressed for the ending! Sumin and Sungji got married and all sweet moments! But Seju and Won's story is just underrated. I'm disappointed that even in the last chapter, Sumin and Sungji shared lot of sweet moments, even Nami and her lover got a hot scene but Won never got one of her appearance in the last chapter! Even they are on the phone but they didn't show their intimacy! Why?! I'm still can't get over it! Sumin can get married with Sungji, I'm OK with it but why don't they let Seju to get married with Won? Won is gentle and has saved Seju's life twice!

Sometimes this thread is like with those Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after WW2–every so often a Seju shipper comes wandering out of the jungle, half-mad from loneliness and frustration, still swearing undying loyalty to the Empress.

War’s over, folks.

Sometimes this thread is like with those Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after WW2–every so often a Seju shipper comes wandering out of the jungle, half-mad from loneliness and frustration, still swearing undying loyalty to the Empress.

War’s over, folks.

I just finished the manga, can't help it! Well, Seju is my favourite caused she is the prettiest in the manga! However, I'm happy that Sumin got married with Sungji in the end! But it not fair that Seju gotta stuck by her own curse that she will never get married unless it with Sumin! Sumin and Sungji are endgame and it's the best but Seju is being single for the rest of her life, it kinda cruel for a pretty lady!

Sometimes this thread is like with those Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after WW2–every so often a Seju shipper comes wandering out of the jungle, half-mad from loneliness and frustration, still swearing undying loyalty to the Empress.

War’s over, folks.

I just finished the manga, can't help it! Well, Seju is my favourite caused she is the prettiest in the manga! However, I'm happy that Sumin got married with Sungji in the end! But it not fair that Seju gotta stuck by her own curse that she will never get married unless it with Sumin! Sumin and Sungji are endgame and it's the best but Seju is being single for the rest of her life, it kinda cruel for a pretty lady!

Upon further consideration, the code of bushido requires that you return to the jungle, keeping within your heart the fiery struggle of the fighting spirit that can never be quenched until the One True Pairing between the Sacred Goddess Seju and her rather short and comparatively mousy Chosen Consort is ultimately achieved. Banzai!

Sometimes reading this thread is like being a war Vet suffering from flashbacks or having senses of deja vue.

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Sometimes this thread is like with those Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after WW2–every so often a Seju shipper comes wandering out of the jungle, half-mad from loneliness and frustration, still swearing undying loyalty to the Empress.

War’s over, folks.

I just finished the manga, can't help it! Well, Seju is my favourite caused she is the prettiest in the manga! However, I'm happy that Sumin got married with Sungji in the end! But it not fair that Seju gotta stuck by her own curse that she will never get married unless it with Sumin! Sumin and Sungji are endgame and it's the best but Seju is being single for the rest of her life, it kinda cruel for a pretty lady!

Upon further consideration, the code of bushido requires that you return to the jungle, keeping within your heart the fiery struggle of the fighting spirit that can never be quenched until the One True Pairing between the Sacred Goddess Seju and her rather short and comparatively mousy Chosen Consort is ultimately achieved. Banzai!

Oops, sound like you really hate Seju?!

Just FYI there is a follow up story that is about Seju and her life and the people she meets after the events in the first story. She doesn't stay lonely.

Just FYI there is a follow up story that is about Seju and her life and the people she meets after the events in the first story. She doesn't stay lonely.

Thanks for the info. But from the manga, there's a chapter said she won't marry anyone except Sumin but Sumin married to Sungji, that means Seju will remain single for the rest of her life because she promised that to Sumin. Seju will never marry anyone!

Even if I was a little late to the discussion, I just finished this story this year LOL

I liked some arguments without too much bias or favoritism and pointing out the problems of configuration and continuity of the story. Seju is by far the best character, Sumin the worst, the blonde never felt her as a main character, there was a lot about her that confused me and sometimes her behavior left me analyzing what was real and what was not with her personality.

And I agree that the story began its descent into shit from chapter 50. I felt cheated because I really came to think that this was really a story about understanding, addressing your insecurities, working on them, and seeking forgiveness. Seju and Sumin's relationship had all the potential to have gone in the right direction because there were subtle hints that they loved each other despite all the accumulation of contempt, revenge, and obsession with the past. One of the many problems the story had was that the realistic narrative became eccentrically exaggerated.

Just FYI there is a follow up story that is about Seju and her life and the people she meets after the events in the first story. She doesn't stay lonely.

Thanks for the info. But from the manga, there's a chapter said she won't marry anyone except Sumin but Sumin married to Sungji, that means Seju will remain single for the rest of her life because she promised that to Sumin. Seju will never marry anyone!

They are not married because there is no equal marriage in Korea. In any case, their relationship was always boring and the healing was due to having lustful sex. Our blonde was so incredibly hot and horny that his own girlfriend couldn't keep up with her. Another misplaced feature of her personality.

Just FYI there is a follow up story that is about Seju and her life and the people she meets after the events in the first story. She doesn't stay lonely.

Thanks for the info. But from the manga, there's a chapter said she won't marry anyone except Sumin but Sumin married to Sungji, that means Seju will remain single for the rest of her life because she promised that to Sumin. Seju will never marry anyone!

They are not married because there is no equal marriage in Korea. In any case, their relationship was always boring and the healing was due to having lustful sex. Our blonde was so incredibly hot and horny that his own girlfriend couldn't keep up with her. Another misplaced feature of her personality.

Yeah, even though not legally but there's a will from Sumin to Sungji. Sumin decided to be with Sungji forever and she got over Seju so fast. I don't think there's love between Sumin and Seju anymore! The author love Sumin and Sungji pair and Sumin is their favourite baby! Anyway, at least they didn't make Seju to become a miserable loner, Dowon really likes her and will never hurt her like Sumin did!

Even if I was a little late to the discussion, I just finished this story this year LOL

I liked some arguments without too much bias or favoritism and pointing out the problems of configuration and continuity of the story. Seju is by far the best character, Sumin the worst, the blonde never felt her as a main character, there was a lot about her that confused me and sometimes her behavior left me analyzing what was real and what was not with her personality.

And I agree that the story began its descent into shit from chapter 50. I felt cheated because I really came to think that this was really a story about understanding, addressing your insecurities, working on them, and seeking forgiveness. Seju and Sumin's relationship had all the potential to have gone in the right direction because there were subtle hints that they loved each other despite all the accumulation of contempt, revenge, and obsession with the past. One of the many problems the story had was that the realistic narrative became eccentrically exaggerated.

I couldn't agree more, Neurotech. I think Gaji missed out on a lot with their relationship, because as you pointed out, there was so much depth. I think the blonde girl was a bit strange for me, because she was so simple - I mean in the sense where there was no complexity or nuance to her character. There was nothing wrong with her, and that's the point, which is what made her uninteresting to me.

And I understand that they did find new partners and are happy in their new relationships, but for me personally, I would have preferred it if Sumin and Seju were together.

The ending is good to convey a message of mature true love and moving on! What seju and Sumin has in the past was puppy love. Sumin basically was obsessed and attracted by Seju's beauty while Seju seeking for love as she can't get it from her family. They both look matching from the appearance but not character wise. That's why their love can't last long once trauma happened. Seju's love is possessive and Sumin is weak. Sumin just wanna cut ties from Seju because she knows she can't forget Seju's mistake and she wants to forget her tragic past. At least for Sumin there's no more love feelings towards Seju after they break up, she just wanna take revenge on Seju to release her pain. I mean how could you tormented a person for 10 years if you still love that person. Then the beautiful and young Sungji came into Sumin's life, Sumin fall in love her caused Sumin just can't resist beauty and Sungji is a lot younger than Seju. Sumin never considered to get back to Seju at all, she just treat Seju as a normal friend caused they know each other for long. Sumin finally found someone who can accompany her to go her parents yard on their anniversary which Seju can't do. Sumin has confidence in Sungji and truly fall in love with her. She is a better person while she is with Sungji. Sumin move on very fast after she met Sungju but Seju is stubborn perhaps due to her family background and insecurity. Anyway, it's good that they both move on in the end. Do Won came to Seju's rescue. Do Won is strong and patience enough to heal Seju's insecurity. They both fit each other in term of physical and character wise.

Even if I was a little late to the discussion, I just finished this story this year LOL

I liked some arguments without too much bias or favoritism and pointing out the problems of configuration and continuity of the story. Seju is by far the best character, Sumin the worst, the blonde never felt her as a main character, there was a lot about her that confused me and sometimes her behavior left me analyzing what was real and what was not with her personality.

And I agree that the story began its descent into shit from chapter 50. I felt cheated because I really came to think that this was really a story about understanding, addressing your insecurities, working on them, and seeking forgiveness. Seju and Sumin's relationship had all the potential to have gone in the right direction because there were subtle hints that they loved each other despite all the accumulation of contempt, revenge, and obsession with the past. One of the many problems the story had was that the realistic narrative became eccentrically exaggerated.

I couldn't agree more, Neurotech. I think Gaji missed out on a lot with their relationship, because as you pointed out, there was so much depth. I think the blonde girl was a bit strange for me, because she was so simple - I mean in the sense where there was no complexity or nuance to her character. There was nothing wrong with her, and that's the point, which is what made her uninteresting to me.

And I understand that they did find new partners and are happy in their new relationships, but for me personally, I would have preferred it if Sumin and Seju were together.

Nah, Sumin and Seju should never get back together. Call me old-fashioned but if someone cheated on me, I would never look at them the same way ever again and pretend we still love each other. The moment Seju betrayed Sumin's trust by sleeping with that bartender man, was the final nail in the coffin. But having said that, I can't wrap my head around Sungji who clearly caught her precious team leader getting it on with her ex and still wants to jump back into bed with her. She's either an angel herself or just the biggest fool ever. I'm leaning more to the latter lol.