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Clannadas20ushio3
joined Jun 22, 2016

Bad End... why?

Images
joined Aug 19, 2018

Why not?

Gay%20cum
joined Jul 16, 2013

That ending, not cool

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joined Mar 29, 2017

People need to grow and sometimes that means hurting thoes you care about. That being said did she not promise to come back or find her? Why the hit and quit?

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joined Nov 5, 2017

The last page is what I felt when she left Alola
Damn, Lillie why are you hurting my feelings

Girls%20last%20tour%20ost%20art
joined Dec 4, 2017

excuse me?

Image
joined Feb 23, 2016

Wow

Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

That's exactly how it happen in the game and you can't convince me otherwise.

History of Nintendo: cardgames, videogames, portable lesbian 3D porn.
I would definitely be more open towards their new dlc politics in that case.

Img_4897
joined Oct 27, 2017

I may not have been the biggest fan of Sun/Moon, but man the design for the FeMC is really really good.

52722-l
joined Nov 8, 2017

Finally lewd MizuLillie. Sad ending tho. :'(

4esenuaj_400x400
joined Sep 16, 2014

The ending of the game for this wasn't a surprise, what I didn't expect is they driving the point that Lillie is still 10 years old.

Badass%20yuyuko%20-%20avatar2
joined Dec 4, 2015

Ah... my heart.

I sure hope Chorimokki makes a doujin with the adult version of them.

Sin%20t%c3%adtulo-min
joined Sep 28, 2011

Let's pretend the last two pages don't exist and they got married

Omochikaeri_thumb
joined Nov 2, 2013

That was hot. This is gonna be favorited. The ending was sad though :L

Kaonashi%20-gssg
joined Apr 1, 2013

where da drama tag tho (థ ‸ థ)

joined Jun 30, 2016

Damn dude! this feels like there is a sequel!

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joined May 1, 2017

Lillie!!! Mizuki did all of that shit to help you... and you just leave :C

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joined Apr 18, 2016

Hey there's that same heartbreak I felt. Lillie is especially evil for making this cutie version of Mizuki sad.

Hope there will be a sequel. Chori + scanlators, don't let me down...

The%20witch's%20house
joined Apr 9, 2015

Where's the "depressing as fuck" tag when you need it

Avatar_a24d1ef02fc0_128
joined May 24, 2015

Uh, guys? She said she "wanted to stand by Mizuki as an equal". Her leaving for Kanto (if, judging by the game lore, she's searching for her Mom and beating the pokemon League) is her own way of bettering herself
I think everyone interpreted those last two pages as "I'm leaving forever and never coming back" instead of "I'm journeying on my own adventure in hopes of bettering myself so I can stand by you as an equal"
Heck, pair this story with Waiting Here (https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/waiting_here) and we finally get the Happy End

Villian%20san%2050per
joined Sep 4, 2018

Omai I was so happy until I get to the end ;^; why??
I know Lillie went on a journey because she wants to be an equal with Mizuki but that end :'u
oohh my not pure heart T^T

Badass%20yuyuko%20-%20avatar2
joined Dec 4, 2015

@Phemon
I can't speak for the others, but I'm aware of her reasons on going to Kanto (and I believe most who commented might know too) and her intention on returning to Alola eventually. However, that doesn't mean there won't be sadness (I for one, always keep playing for a couple months after the end, but I couldn't do that with S/M, because no matter how many hours I would have into the game, Lillie won't come back)...
Also, the Waiting Here doujin doesn't really make up for me because I played Moon.

last edited at Sep 19, 2018 4:59AM

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

The thing is, yeah, I’m canon I guess it’s suggested that she would come back, but the thing about the end of any piece of media—and especially games, because of their ability to create semi-real fictional spaces—is that, when you reach the ending, it stops being a living world. You know there won’t be any more development in the game, and so the state of the world remains “Lillie has left Alola” forever. The world of the game doesn’t continue; it ends with Lillie leaving, and you know she is never coming back—whatever the game might say, it doesn’t bring her back, so in an important sense she has left you forever right at the end of your journey.

It’s a really powerful—and probably the best—move from a design perspective, because if she stayed she would become an NPC with one line, like Hau and Gladion, and she would cease to be a living character. Lillie is such an interesting and lovable character, and by having her leave at the end they avoid the sort of quasi-death other characters undergo, leaving behind the corpse of a one-line NPC that will never continue to grow as the characters have done throughout the story. I think this—Lillie remaining in our memory only as a living character, the end of the story making her departure permanent—drives that powerful feeling of melancholy that everyone is hit with on finishing the game; our good friend and almost-lover is still out there, but we’ll never see her again. Add in the difficult-to-process circumstance of her leaving suddenly and without warning you, and it becomes clear how this ending has generated so many fan works trying to explain, deny, or understand her departure.

Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

@Linterdiction
Interesting analysis, I never looked at storytelling in game design in a way that does not include gameplay mechanics but instead the limits of this medium (like NPC behavior after completing the game).

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joined Nov 11, 2018

Damn it wat wrong with u Lille n u hurt her feeling,leave her, really Lille? Smh

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