Not a shitpost, more like a golden post. Nakatani Nio portrays love in a way where it's not meant to be exciting just because it's two girls, rather attempting to create love stories between two individuals who can fall in love regardless of their gender - something that, apparently, many of the "HOW COULD YOU NIO" retards failed to realize, since lesbianism or bisexuality doesn't have to be seen as a fetish or the main factor of a relationship, just a characteristic.

That's actually a good point. Nakatani's main message seems to be that labels aren't necessary when you're in love with someone. What matters is that you're with someone who makes you happy. So, at that point, is there even any reason to categorize it further?

I think Nakatani somewhat talked about that in an interview about her Touhou doujins. Something about how she's more interested in exploring the relationship between the girls than actually enforcing what she THINKS their relationships are, but if the relationship has romantic connotations, then it can be taken as romantic one.

Think about it. She doesn't have a preference for girls, but she chose HER. Doesn't get more romantic than that, honestly.

And yes, now that you put it that way, it would explain why Riko suddenly got shy while Miyako was teasing her~

YagaKimi pretty much paints itself as a love story between two individuals who happen to be girls. The question of whether they are girls is not as important as the question of who they are as people. The story takes its time to flesh out its characters, both their bad & good sides, since this gives no doubt that when the characters fall in love, they're falling in love with the person, rather than any concept of that person (Yuu is the embodiment of this)

Btw, this reminds me, a future development I really want to see for Touko would be Maki somehow reveals to her the fact that he doesn't love or want to fall in love. How Touko reacts to this would be really telling of whether she has truly fallen for Yuu (& not the concept of a person who can't love her back) or not.

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Think about it. She doesn't have a preference for girls, but she chose HER. Doesn't get more romantic than that, honestly.

Very much in keeping with her philosophy on romance stories from that one interview with her and Canno. Something like, "It means more if women choose each other in a world where there are men, doesn't it?"

Not a shitpost, more like a golden post. Nakatani Nio portrays love in a way where it's not meant to be exciting just because it's two girls, rather attempting to create love stories between two individuals who can fall in love regardless of their gender - something that, apparently, many of the "HOW COULD YOU NIO" retards failed to realize, since lesbianism or bisexuality doesn't have to be seen as a fetish or the main factor of a relationship, just a characteristic.

Think about it. She doesn't have a preference for girls, but she chose HER. Doesn't get more romantic than that, honestly.

Right. So It's nothing new then. Nakatani choose the same road as many yuri mangakas before her. It's an old trope "I'm not gay but I love you" (like in yaoi). It's still a fetishization.

Right. So It's nothing new then. Nakatani choose the same road as many yuri mangakas before her. It's an old trope "I'm not gay but I love you" (like in yaoi). It's still a fetishization.

How in the world is disregarding sexuality based on genders a fetish? Had she said she preferred men, would it be that much more satisfying for you?

Right. So It's nothing new then. Nakatani choose the same road as many yuri mangakas before her. It's an old trope "I'm not gay but I love you" (like in yaoi). It's still a fetishization.

How, though? It's a character being in love with another character because they like them as a person above all else. Riko-sensei is able to look past the physical aspects because she likes Miyako more as a person. I don't see how that's fetishization.

Not gonna blame anyone for reading it that way, but fumbling over her words as opening for a tease gag made me take it as more "bi but didn't explore relationships with women before Miyako" rather than a flat-out "straight except for you" bit.

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Right. So It's nothing new then. Nakatani choose the same road as many yuri mangakas before her. It's an old trope "I'm not gay but I love you" (like in yaoi). It's still a fetishization.

The trope has been done a lot in other yuri series b4 & the presentation here is a bit straightforward & doesn't exactly add anything new to it, so I can get why you'd be frustrated with it. However, it's not a trope that's completely out of place in this story since from the beginning, YagaKimi has always been presenting itself as a love story between individuals, with no interest in attaching any labels on them. Again, it could've handled better, but to each his own, I have no problem with it, but I can see why you're not too excited about it. Tho calling it a fetish just b/c it's a cliche trope is beyond me.

Hmmyeah, pretty mixed about that too. Manager's reaction face is pretty priceless though. X)

Why there are no chapter posted here? I mean by the comments it seems new chapter are already released.

Why there are no chapter posted here? I mean by the comments it seems new chapter are already released.

Well yeah, the "Special 4"

Why there are no chapter posted here? I mean by the comments it seems new chapter are already released.

Well yeah, the "Special 4"

Is this the same case as Murcielago?

Why there are no chapter posted here? I mean by the comments it seems new chapter are already released.

Well yeah, the "Special 4"

Is this the same case as Murcielago?

What?
Idk what you're asking but, it's an extra chapter :0 (Murciélago/many series have bonus (and shorter) chapters). Usually, after Bloom into You completes a volume, an extra/bonus chapter is released the next month, and then the series/plot continues with the chapter with the following month

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Why there are no chapter posted here? I mean by the comments it seems new chapter are already released.

Well yeah, the "Special 4"

Is this the same case as Murcielago?

What?
Idk what you're asking but, it's an extra chapter :0 (Murciélago/many series have bonus (and shorter) chapters). Usually, after Bloom into You completes a volume, an extra/bonus chapter is released the next month, and then the series/plot continues with the chapter with the following month

No i mean, does it get licensed just like Murcielago?

No i mean, does it get licensed just like Murcielago?

Yeah, it's been licensed since Feb 2016, 2 volumes have been released in English so far.

No i mean, does it get licensed just like Murcielago?

Yeah, it's been licensed since Feb 2016, 2 volumes have been released in English so far.

Ah dang it!

No i mean, does it get licensed just like Murcielago?

Yeah, it's been licensed since Feb 2016, 2 volumes have been released in English so far.

Ah dang it!

Why?
Scanlations haven't stopped lol

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Faust posted:

No i mean, does it get licensed just like Murcielago?

Yeah, it's been licensed since Feb 2016, 2 volumes have been released in English so far.

Ah dang it!

Why?
Scanlations haven't stopped lol

They did. They dropped it because it was licensed.

EDIT/ Nvm the group that was tl'ing it until now dropped it, but I didn't see /u/ picked it up after it.

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with no interest in attaching any labels on them

I dunno, Sayaka seems pretty obviously gay.

They did. They dropped it because it was licensed.

YP dropped it, but 4s has been translating Yagate ever since ihoshiku disappeared (before YP even picked it up iirc), so it didn't really matter tbh (I remember seeing the chapters 6-8 ish on other reader sites)

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with no interest in attaching any labels on them

I dunno, Sayaka seems pretty obviously gay.

The manga never calls her a lesbian either. My point is that the manga isn't really interested in exploring sexuality. Readers are free to identify the characters however they want, but at the end of the day, that's not really the focus of the story.

Faust posted:

They did. They dropped it because it was licensed.

YP dropped it, but 4s has been translating Yagate ever since ihoshiku disappeared (before YP even picked it up iirc), so it didn't really matter tbh (I remember seeing the chapters 6-8 ish on other reader sites)

I was talking about Murcielago though.

with no interest in attaching any labels on them

I dunno, Sayaka seems pretty obviously gay.

Yeah, Sayaka fell in love with her ex and then Touko because they're girls, while Touko and Yuu are the ones who seem to follow the "no labels " thing. Still, I don't see Touko and Yuu ever falling for someone else, be either a boy or girl.

The manga never calls her a lesbian either. My point is that the manga isn't really interested in exploring sexuality. Readers are free to identify the characters however they want, but at the end of the day, that's not really the focus of the story.

I don't think it's necessary for Sayaka to say explicitly that she's gay since it's pretty obvious she is and has accepted that fact after she fell for Touko, like she explained to coffee lady. I do agree that sexuality is not the focus of the manga, but saying readers can identify the characters the way they want is a bit wrong because someone could say they see Yuu as asexual and that's obviously not the case. Thing is labels aren't very important here though.

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I don't think it's necessary for Sayaka to say explicitly that she's gay since it's pretty obvious she is and has accepted that fact after she fell for Touko, like she explained to coffee lady. I do agree that sexuality is not the focus of the manga, but saying readers can identify the characters the way they want is a bit wrong because someone could say they see Yuu as asexual and that's obviously not the case. Thing is labels aren't very important here though.

I guess my comment wasn't very clear lol I never claim that Sayaka isn't a lesbian. Was just saying that the manga doesn't bother identifying her sexuality since it's not the focus of the story. & when I say readers can identify the characters however they want, I mean that there's nothing to stop them from identifying the characters. We're free to call Sayaka a lesbian, Maki an asexual, etc. but the manga isn't going to confirm any of those labels since that's not its focus. Seriously, unless we get a sex scene between Yuu & Touko, there will still be people out there claiming Yuu's asexual.

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I don't think it's interested in exploring the idea of sexuality as a concept, but it's definitely interested in exploring the sexualities of the characters, because it's a romance manga. While Nakatani isn't writing a story about characters coming to terms with specific sexualities (for the most part), she's definitely got a clear idea of what they are and how to integrate them into the rest of a character's personality and development.