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Beatorokken
joined Feb 23, 2014

Oh yeah, Kyou Kara is another story of a kinda-sorta realistic trans character, although she exists in kind of a wtf story.

I noticed, reason i dropped it a while ago, and botan is still a bitch, dont care what anyone says, you can forgive her being involved in an affair earlier but not the shit she pulled after.
Seriously though I would like a trans character in a story that isnt bad (imo anyway)

last edited at Dec 27, 2015 7:10PM

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joined May 11, 2012

Nezchan posted:

Yeah one is from Mermaid Line, I forgot it was two-part, but I remember there is a oneshot too, I think the story was basically a narration about a couple and how they saved money to pay for a cirurgy for one of them, I think only near the end it make clear the cirurgy was MtF transition and only in the last page we see the couple faces after the transition, it's pretty much all I remember.

I'm pretty certain that's not on the reader. Doesn't sound familiar at all.

Also, "surgery".

Yeah surgery, I knew I had a word wrong, it's fixed now.

I'm also not sure if it's uploaded here, I read it years ago so if it's not here only other place I could have read would be Mangafox and Mangahere, years ago I had a look at all manga they had tagged as yuri and shoujo ai to see what was not uploaded on Dynasty, maybe Danbooru but I'm pretty sure it had typeset so I doubt it was there, it would be a little hard to find it.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Nezchan

To be honest, I'd be surprised if much crossdressing manga was authentic to what actual crossdressers experience than futa is a reflection of trans or intersex people. Indeed, is there any crossdressing manga that has a very sensitive approach to the subject, or is it pretty much all comedy and fetish?

Juukyuusai no seifuku?

The crossdressing guy seem to have a reason to crossdress.

I found him a believable crossdresser with a psychological reason behind it.

And he's a genuine crossdresser, not a transgender.

last edited at Dec 30, 2015 4:23PM

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

As long as people are sharing trans-focused manga, here's one of my favorites: http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_flower

The thing is, in most manga, like "the flower", MtF are undistinguishable from females and are almost always beautiful (if they are a main character and are not played for comedy)

Reality doesn't work that way, unfortunately.

last edited at Dec 30, 2015 4:28PM

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

The thing is, in most manga, like "the flower", MtF are undistinguishable from females....

Oh. Oh dear.

That's unfortunate phrasing.

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

In terms of trans characters' looks though, manga rarely seems to take the middle road. A couple, like the Mermaid Line story or Double House, try to, but often it's either "stunning beauty" or "Mike Tyson in a dress" with little aside from either extreme. Which is why I generally don't trust manga artists and writers to get sensitive subjects like these (among others) anywhere near right.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

The thing is, in most manga, like "the flower", MtF are undistinguishable from females....

Oh. Oh dear.

That's unfortunate phrasing.

Well, I think you got what I meant. Mangakas just draw a beautiful female character and say "this is/was a boy". The flower is a perfect example. There's nothing in the middle.

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joined Jul 17, 2015

Well, I think you got what I meant. Mangakas just draw a beautiful female character and say "this is/was a boy". The flower is a perfect example. There's nothing in the middle.

I think mangakas have a hard time depicting non-perfect-looking people in general.

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

Well, I think you got what I meant. Mangakas just draw a beautiful female character and say "this is/was a boy". The flower is a perfect example. There's nothing in the middle.

I think mangakas have a hard time depicting non-perfect-looking people in general.

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Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

Well, I think you got what I meant. Mangakas just draw a beautiful female character and say "this is/was a boy". The flower is a perfect example. There's nothing in the middle.

I think mangakas have a hard time depicting non-perfect-looking people in general.

Why single out the manga artists? Every piece of media is the same, that is just as the market is, nearly all the audience wants to see idealized characters.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Well, I think you got what I meant. Mangakas just draw a beautiful female character and say "this is/was a boy". The flower is a perfect example. There's nothing in the middle.

I think mangakas have a hard time depicting non-perfect-looking people in general.

Why single out the manga artists? Every piece of media is the same, that is just as the market is, nearly all the audience wants to see idealized characters.

Some popular European tv series have very ordinary looking people. Or even ugly sometimes.

It's mostly in the US that everyone is a model.

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

Some popular European tv series have very ordinary looking people. Or even ugly sometimes.

It's mostly in the US that everyone is a model.

Eh, is the same on US tv series. For every 10 series with models you get one or two with ordinary/ugly looking people.

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joined Aug 24, 2015

This was so cute I'm gonna die... all of my trans children getting along and being supportive I'm so happy :') This chapter was such a blessing~

Only one of them is a trans though.

I used it as an umbrella term. Only one is binary trans yes, but almost all the characters have some form of gender going on, and they are all supportive in each others' interest in exploring their own gender, which is why I was so happy. Especially in this chapter with Tamura supporting Natsume, and then having fun all together dressing fem without really trying to pass. To me it seems like they are beginning to really accept this as a part of their identity now, and not just as a hobby. I'm sorry, just as trans person its reading more and more on the spectrum of non-binary trans rather than just crossdressing. At least for Natsume. Tamura... still has a lot to sort out.

last edited at Jan 3, 2016 1:46AM

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Ch 38 out. So Marika gives up on Parou, but Tomochi x Marika?!? Not my preferred pairing.

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Rosmontis
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Nya-chan posted:

Ch 38 out. So Marika gives up on Parou, but Tomochi x Marika?!? Not my preferred pairing.

I want them together

Mask
joined Jan 6, 2015

Wow..I'd suggest not marathoning this whole series in a single day if you just stumble on it like I did. My head's a rollercoaster of emotions right now.

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joined Nov 16, 2013

It's probably not meant that way but I'd like to think Tomocchi said "no" when prompted by Akane because she said Yuuta, and the one he likes is Marika.

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It's probably not meant that way but I'd like to think Tomocchi said "no" when prompted by Akane because she said Yuuta, and the one he likes is Marika.

I wouldn't really put that past him, considering how he's always called her Marika even before everyone else.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

I think that's the case too. He said "no" because she mentionned Yuuta and not Marika.

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Rosmontis
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Especially since later he told Marika to think on her own whatever his confession was serious or not and was ok when Marika asked if she can reply later.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Somehow, I don't like chapter 40.

Marika saying she's a guy and winning a cross-dressing contest? It's totally out-of-character. She's a girl and she's not crossdressing. And everyone goes along with that.

But we got to see Tomochi being jelly.

last edited at Apr 3, 2016 2:50PM

Mask
joined Jan 6, 2015

Too cute! Everybody! And I think I like the pudgy glasses-sempai. He'll probably just be a one-time character, but it'd be nice if he shows up again.
Akane in the too-big changshan(is that the right word?) was my favorite.

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Rosmontis
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The fuck is this shit? This is so insulting. Entire time series was doing great job on portraying Marika as believable trans character and in this chapter author decided to throw it all into garbage and burn it?

So Marika pities some random guys in all boys school that are just jealous that there are no girls around, so she reveals her secret to them so they will feel better cos it wasn't Tomocchi flirting with a girl, but with cross-dressing guy? What kind of bs is that? And after all that time, after fighting for her happiness and making sure everyone sees and accepts her as a girl, she suddenly now has second thoughts if it is ok to dress as one? Cos she made some random people jealous and she feels guilty about it and/or like she is lying to everyone? Give me a damn break. Also the way rest respond to that. Usually the reply "who cares" would be right one, but in this case it isn't "gender doesn't matter" but "you are a freaking girl so don't feel bad for acting like one" (sure you can say girls can dress/act how they want and it is true, but you get my point). And again "dressing up just to be cute" isn't a right answer in this case either. Not to mention "we all are deviants" is the worse you could probably say (I get it was title drop "Bokura no Hentai"="Our deviations"). Calling anyone deviant most of the time is just wrong. And the worst part is that next chapter is last. Great way to piss you off just before series end and put a big damper all over what it accomplished until now.

last edited at Apr 3, 2016 1:33PM

Dreadpiratebaka
joined Jul 11, 2014

Yeah it felt... really out of character for Marika, and makes no sense. I hope we get a little bit of a fix next chapter?

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joined Aug 31, 2014

well that was a sure way to dump on everything Marika did until now, kind of drepressing they put it like that after all the trans portrayal they did of Marika.

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