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joined Sep 19, 2015

hahaha can't stop laughing with flashlight part :D

Fennec
joined May 28, 2012

No last bonus chapter?
lame

2x2-shinobuden-m001
joined Dec 14, 2014

Nezchan

Add We never got to see Keiko get closure with her ex, or really show much reaction at all to talking to him, despite it being something hanging over their heads through 90% of the series.

I would even go so far to phrase that We never got to see anything that suggested a change in Keiko's way of dealing with emotions.

Even at the end she was pretty much dead-pan and showed no emotions when her final breaker with her ex was mentioned. She never showed any beginning of coping with the miscarriage and even when Ran was crying herself to sleep she showed no strong reaction. Or when Ran was hugging her in the showed. That was quite unsettling.

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

Nezchan

Add We never got to see Keiko get closure with her ex, or really show much reaction at all to talking to him, despite it being something hanging over their heads through 90% of the series.

I would even go so far to phrase that We never got to see anything that suggested a change in Keiko's way of dealing with emotions.

Even at the end she was pretty much dead-pan and showed no emotions when her final breaker with her ex was mentioned. She never showed any beginning of coping with the miscarriage and even when Ran was crying herself to sleep she showed no strong reaction. Or when Ran was hugging her in the showed. That was quite unsettling.

Well, the bit where Keiko is now comfortable being around children can be taken as an indication of coping with her miscarriage, especially given Ran's reaction to it. But that's only one of those things covered, the rest are still outstanding.

2x2-shinobuden-m001
joined Dec 14, 2014

Oh, I just saw that those points have already been discussed. I was reading up old stuff and figured I'd better post before I forget to.

Should teach me to read everything before posting. Still, thank you for your reply! :)

e: and the English keyboard on my tablet seems to be acting up. Such spelling. Wow.

last edited at Oct 30, 2015 12:34PM

Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

no closure with the ex?
I think it's pretty idealistic to have a good talk and go their merry way but that guy was still hung up on her and both had an akward time at the bar, probably suggesting that there will be nothing more to discuss

Not that I expected to see his side of the story with how he acted, after all HE WAS the father...

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Very good news, the fourth volume will be published on 11 December.

Amazon Japan

According to the product description, the fourth volume will contain an epilogue and consist of 152 pages.

Well, maybe the epilogue will hint at them reuniting.

OR A TIME SKIP AND THEY ARE BOTH MARRIED WITH CHILDREN... (pictures Shou laughing all the way to the bank for his sweet revenge on yuri fans)

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joined Oct 30, 2015

THAT'S IT??? that's the end??? I'm waiting for more development... how sad....

Copy90_90_zpscf246422
joined Sep 18, 2014

no closure with the ex?

It was resolved offscreen here.

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

no closure with the ex?

It was resolved offscreen here.

Show, don't tell.

Avatar-bro2
joined Apr 20, 2013

"until next time"? shaking hands?

pffft! SOMEBODY KILL ME NOW!

last edited at Nov 3, 2015 2:13PM

Afueee
joined Apr 5, 2013

no closure with the ex?

It was resolved offscreen here.

Show, don't tell.

Shou never tells. Hell, he barely shows anymore!!!

Sorry, can't help it!!

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

I really didn't want this to join my list of good series with horrible endings. ;~;

joined Oct 26, 2014

What? What was even the point of that ending? If he'd ended it when Keiko gave Ran her birthday present, that would have been a better ending. That is to say, the series would have ended better had he not written an end to it at all. Honestly, the ending just feels pointless. It does nothing for development or the story. It literally just ends everything. How disappointing.

I'm not saying this because I feel like I was taken in by subtext. I don't. It wasn't subtext. It was clear canon. Their relationship was extremely well written. By the end, it was obvious in their actions and thought that were shown that they were two people in love, and it was that slow progression toward love that made the series better and better as went on. The series showed us more and more instances of their emotions for and their caring about each other as they went from friends to something more. This growth was something the other characters saw and a number commented on. It was something only the two main characters didn't accept, as it moved steadily toward a sense of climax. And the conclusion to it? Absolutely nothing. Actually, literally less than nothing, as it took away from the development built up in the series.

It's frankly a poor way to end any story, and a sad way to see one as good as this one had been end. What we're left with isn't a story that spent it's entire time playing with subtext and/or baiting. We're left with a story of two women who fell in love but never faced their feelings for each other and let themselves be separated through their own actions with no resistance despite how clearly neither of them liked the thought of being separated, despite how clearly they both wanted to stay together.

joined Jul 31, 2013

That's a good summation. I agree.

Untitled-1
joined Aug 29, 2013

It wasn't subtext. It was clear canon. Their relationship was extremely well written. By the end, it was obvious in their actions and thought that were shown that they were two people in love, and it was that slow progression toward love that made the series better and better as went on.

I'm not sure if everyone's reading the same manga lol.
But honestly as much as I see Ran's interests in Keiko, I just don't see any strong sexual or romantic feelings from Keiko for Ran at all. All along I was just hoping for some hints that Keiko was sexually or romantic fascinated by Ran, but any subtle hints were made got smashed up in the latter chapters.

It's frankly a poor way to end any story, and a sad way to see one as good as this one had been end.

Agreed

Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

http://dynasty-scans.com/system/releases/000/010/958/022_B_001_09.jpg pretty much sums up their relationship ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

It wasn't subtext. It was clear canon. Their relationship was extremely well written. By the end, it was obvious in their actions and thought that were shown that they were two people in love, and it was that slow progression toward love that made the series better and better as went on.

I'm not sure if everyone's reading the same manga lol.
But honestly as much as I see Ran's interests in Keiko, I just don't see any strong sexual or romantic feelings from Keiko for Ran at all. All along I was just hoping for some hints that Keiko was sexually or romantic fascinated by Ran, but any subtle hints were made got smashed up in the latter chapters.

The way I see it, as far as feelings go Keiko now knows unequivocally how Ran feels, so during her time alone she has some serious soul-searching to do about her own feelings. If this were a different series, it'd be prime for a time skip to after that process, when they reunite and make things clear to each other. But this isn't that series.

Again though, that part isn't the issue that I have with how it ended. The yuri potential part is actually okay as far as I'm concerned, and it ends on a hopeful note.

joined Oct 12, 2013

When's the tank out again?

joined Mar 25, 2013

Middle of December I think, or around that time.

princeinquisitor
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joined Oct 28, 2014

When's the tank out again?

The fourth volume will be published on 11 December.

Amazon Japan

CDJapan

According to the product description, the fourth volume will contain an epilogue and consist of 152 pages.

What I find strange is that still no information about the fourth volume in Yawaspi, while the other series behavior is the opposite, well, it seems they like to hurt their fans with the hype.

What if I urge all users of this site is to buy the fourth volume, because best sales equals greater possibilities of a sequel, so we have to make the volume sold like hotcakes.

joined Oct 12, 2013

Yeah, or we could not. I'm not interested in another 4 volumes of Show dangling lesbians in front of our faces without ever delivering. Maybe if he gets serialized in a yuri anthology, that would be about it.

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

The sales might depend a lot in that epilogue... I don't really have much hope.

joined Mar 25, 2013

At least the epilogue will be 20-30 pages if previous books are any indication.

Untitled-1
joined Aug 29, 2013

All my hopes were already crushed. I'd just read for the sake of stretching tips if there's a sequel.

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