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"like if I'd ever thought of her romantically"
because they both discussed their relationship (off-screen)
perhaps it's that "off-screen" which is unsatisfying for many readers.
And so ends one of the most frustrating series ever...
We've been over this, they're are not just platonic or just romantic. Kasumi isn't taking any advantage of Sakurako because they both discussed their relationship (off-screen) and mutually agreed on the one they have now.
A love that is neither platonic or romantic makes no logical sense. Platonic pretty much just means "not romantic". It's like people who try to us "agnostic" to mean some kind of wishy washy zone between atheist and theist. Doesn't make any sense, atheist simply means "not theist".
Happily ever after. ^_^
May we assume the final extra is still coming as well?
My biggest gripes with the series are all those "specials" that make both character question their relationship. It somehow undermines the cozy mood. Which is a shame; I would love to be able to re-read this for its coziness and silliness, but the idea that somewhere in the back of her mind, Sakurako is questioning her standing with Kasumi is off-putting.
We've been over this, they're are not just platonic or just romantic. Kasumi isn't taking any advantage of Sakurako because they both discussed their relationship (off-screen) and mutually agreed on the one they have now.
Frankly this sites inability to understand relationships beyond the concept of a married couple is baffling at times. They love each other (seemingly slightly differently) but haven't let that difference get in the way of them spending time with their favorite person. Do people just need them to bang on screen to care?
Agreed. The way people get so fussed over a private couple's happiness unfortunately reminds me of real life and it's always confused me. They're perfectly healthy and happy as a couple, a loving relationship that works for them. Who does that bother exactly? Someone said this calm, peaceful series actually infuriated them and I couldn't help but side eye. Can't imagine that. This chapter releasing here is another reminder to reread though.
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Agreed. The way people get so fussed over a private couple's happiness unfortunately reminds me of real life and it's always confused me. They're perfectly healthy and happy as a couple, a loving relationship that works for them. Who does that bother exactly? Someone said this calm, peaceful series actually infuriated them and I couldn't help but side eye. Can't imagine that. This chapter releasing here is another reminder to reread though.
They aren't real. They didn't actually decide to do any of this, they aren't actually happy. Discussing the way a fictional couple is written is not the same as going up to an actual real world couple and demanding they define themselves for you.
My biggest gripes with the series are all those "specials" that make both character question their relationship. It somehow undermines the cozy mood. Which is a shame; I would love to be able to re-read this for its coziness and silliness, but the idea that somewhere in the back of her mind, Sakurako is questioning her standing with Kasumi is off-putting.
Agreed. The story absolutely gives the impression that Sakurako would jump at the opportunity to define their relationship as a romantic couple if Kasumi gave it to her. This isn't some headcannon some people made up. It's right there in the specials. It doesn't help that it never actually showed the resolution to this. Apparently they discussed it off-panel
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We've been over this, they're are not just platonic or just romantic. Kasumi isn't taking any advantage of Sakurako because they both discussed their relationship (off-screen) and mutually agreed on the one they have now.
Frankly this sites inability to understand relationships beyond the concept of a married couple is baffling at times. They love each other (seemingly slightly differently) but haven't let that difference get in the way of them spending time with their favorite person. Do people just need them to bang on screen to care?
Agreed. The way people get so fussed over a private couple's happiness unfortunately reminds me of real life and it's always confused me. They're perfectly healthy and happy as a couple, a loving relationship that works for them. Who does that bother exactly? Someone said this calm, peaceful series actually infuriated them and I couldn't help but side eye. Can't imagine that. This chapter releasing here is another reminder to reread though.
For me personally the problem was that Sakurako seemed like she had a sex drive and Kasumi didn't. I'm not bothered as much by the ambiguous relationship as that incompatible sex drives can be a real difficulty in relationships and it's kind of never addressed.
For me personally the problem was that Sakurako seemed like she had a sex drive and Kasumi didn't. I'm not bothered as much by the ambiguous relationship as that incompatible sex drives can be a real difficulty in relationships and it's kind of never addressed.
^^^ this.
And while for a real couple the answer might well be "none of your business", fiction invites us to a greater intimacy than we might have even with our best friends. We see them together in private, or even alone and seeing their thoughts.
They aren't real. They didn't actually decide to do any of this, they aren't actually happy. Discussing the way a fictional couple is written is not the same as going up to an actual real world couple and demanding they define themselves for you.
That doesn't really have much to do with what I said.
For me personally the problem was that Sakurako seemed like she had a sex drive and Kasumi didn't. I'm not bothered as much by the ambiguous relationship as that incompatible sex drives can be a real difficulty in relationships and it's kind of never addressed.
Regardless of whether we agree on that, they have very clearly decided that whatever issues they have are not nearly as important as their relationship. Being happy and content does not mean being perfect. Just because they had questions at one point does not mean they are in the same place emotionally now; and sexual incompatibility can be an issue in some relationships but it is not in this one.
If the individuals in the relationship, real or fictional, have come to terms with these differences, decided on something that works for them, and repeatedly express their happiness in public and private, there's not much to say. If they don't have a problem what's to be bothered by? Where does that feeling come from? Did we want more chapters focused on them discussing these things? Do we think the story is sending out harmful lessons?
This isn't responding to your comment specifically but it also seems there's this underlying desire to imagine they must be more bothered than they show and I don't follow there. They have normal apprehensions as they form their relationship and talk their way through them. None of those issues were all that major for them. As for Sakurako jumping at the chance to be called "romantic:" I'm sure each of them have things they'd like from the other that they won't fully receive but that's normal and they've decided what they do receive far outweighs what they miss. These issues aren't as large as maybe some want them to be.
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because they both discussed their relationship (off-screen)
perhaps it's that "off-screen" which is unsatisfying for many readers.
Yeah, it should've been laid out at some point.
because they both discussed their relationship (off-screen)
perhaps it's that "off-screen" which is unsatisfying for many readers.
Yeah, it should've been laid out at some point.
They never laid it out explicitly, but it's not like we have nothing to work with. If you keep attention to their behavior and the things they say there's plenty of things you can guess about their relationship, and them refusing to put a specific label on it was kind of the whole point of the story anyway.
The important thing is they like each other, and they want to stay together.
I want to point out one of the doujins did imply that they had sex, so maybe they do have sex occasionally. Who knows.
I'm glad the end of the manga is finally TLed! The credit page including the TL group history was really cute. I'll miss them a lot
They aren't real. They didn't actually decide to do any of this, they aren't actually happy. Discussing the way a fictional couple is written is not the same as going up to an actual real world couple and demanding they define themselves for you.
That doesn't really have much to do with what I said.
For me personally the problem was that Sakurako seemed like she had a sex drive and Kasumi didn't. I'm not bothered as much by the ambiguous relationship as that incompatible sex drives can be a real difficulty in relationships and it's kind of never addressed.
Regardless of whether we agree on that, they have very clearly decided that whatever issues they have are not nearly as important as their relationship. Being happy and content does not mean being perfect. Just because they had questions at one point does not mean they are in the same place emotionally now; and sexual incompatibility can be an issue in some relationships but it is not in this one.
If the individuals in the relationship, real or fictional, have come to terms with these differences, decided on something that works for them, and repeatedly express their happiness in public and private, there's not much to say. If they don't have a problem what's to be bothered by? Where does that feeling come from? Did we want more chapters focused on them discussing these things? Do we think the story is sending out harmful lessons?
This isn't responding to your comment specifically but it also seems there's this underlying desire to imagine they must be more bothered than they show and I don't follow there. They have normal apprehensions as they form their relationship and talk their way through them. None of those issues were all that major for them. As for Sakurako jumping at the chance to be called "romantic:" I'm sure each of them have things they'd like from the other that they won't fully receive but that's normal and they've decided what they do receive far outweighs what they miss. These issues aren't as large as maybe some want them to be.
I mean, sure, I guess technically I don't disagree with your point, but that's the nature of media. We can only react as individuals to a piece of writing. This to me felt incomplete or unrealistic because what I would think are big issues in a relationship are unaddressed. For someone else, it feels perfectly fine. I remember in high school watching Before Sunrise with a group and I thought it was an incredibly grounded and realistic film, while someone else thought it was ridiculous because no one would ever meet someone on a train. We all bring different expectations into it. I don't think people who see this as fine or perfect are wrong, I just don't see it that way.
Well the subtextian manga is finally over lol. Their literally " and they were roommates ". As an asexual with no sex drive that lives in parallel with this kind of relationship? Something will have to give.
Sakurako may have the patience of a saint or is just really likes edging.
Kasumi is selfish.
But Sakurako is fine with it for now. Culture is also at play since Japan has that whole gay til we graduate mentality. These two just stretching it beyond the pale. I'm not looking for a label on their relationship truthfully they just being queer roommates just feels unfulfilling and tragically one sided.
Kasumi acknowledging Sakurako as a partner would have been enough and watching her know but choosing not to feels..predatory?
Ok it ended, finally!!!! I didn't like it. Glad it's over. I can't understand people liking this...well I can, but I didn't. Frustrating as hell.