I agee, but as Nammi said, she could've chosen a different way, much less hurtful. But she wanted Sumin to suffer ;)
She tried to sabotage Sumin's relationship with Seju before they even became a serious couple by saying all this bs to Sungji when she found Sumin napping with her head on Sungji's lap. She knew right away Sumin got close with the blondie so she started her game.

What is that different way? If I were redhead's fiance I would have broken up with redhead, and that would result in Sumin could officially date redhead. Do you think everyone would act like redhead's fiance; physically hurt a woman? Did Seju tell redhead's fiance to do that?

What's else should she have said, "I'm not her friend, I'm her sugar mommy."? Sumin should have been honest with Sungji, but she just told Sungji that Seju was her "friend".

How should I know? It's what Nammi said - Seju could've use a different way, but she chose to hurt Sumin, badly.
Sumin didn't completely lie about Seju being her friend. She just covered the part "with benefits". Doesn't make it better in any possible way, but I'm happy they're fine now. What I want to see now is them develop this relationship and Seju find someone for herself and treat that person with high respect, without manipulations and plotting (Nammi, please!).

How should I know? It's what Nammi said - Seju could've use a different way, but she chose to hurt Sumin, badly.
Sumin didn't completely lie about Seju being her friend. She just covered the part "with benefits". Doesn't make it better in any possible way, but I'm happy they're fine now. What I want to see now is them develop this relationship and Seju find someone for herself and treat that person with high respect, without manipulations and plotting (Nammi, please!).

Since when did Seju not treat Sumin without respect? She respects every fcking decision Sumin makes reagarding their relationship even without her consent. Have we ever seen Seju get the chance to decide anything about them? Nope, it has been all Sumin since, break up, Sumin, come back to Seju => Sumin, cut Seju off, Sumin
Manipulations were a thing between them for 10 years. Did Sumin manipulate Seju? Hell yes she did, sorry, the right word for Sumin is USE. Sumin used Seju, Seju manipulated Sumin. So why the hell you keep saying as if Seju is the bad guy while Sumin is a saint? have Sumin ever treat Seju with respect? With love? With care without insults and hurting words?

Seju is bad, Sumin is not any better, their relationship is fcked up by both of them for 10 years but why most of people only think Seju is the bad guy or worse than Sumin? Why? I dont get it.

^I didn't say she doesn't respect Sumin... because she does. [Just not all the time, but I've never said it before, it's the very first time].
I also didn't say Seju is the only bad. Just in my eyes her behaviour towards Sumin was worse than Sumin's towards Seju. Other than that, both of them are toxic for each other and souldn't be together. But it's my own opinion.
And yes, Sumin loved Seju deeply. Their relationship was important to her. If Seju didn't fckd up with that bartender, they would've been happy together right now. And maybe if Seju's brother didn't scar her, she'd forgive Seju in time. But he did, which made her disgusted with this entire family even more.

Btw: is the new chapter coming out today?

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I can not believe that some adults still find the urgent need to classify ppl into good and bad .. black and white!

I've been reading an analysis by @FoxyLady which was very interesting, there is actually no evidence of Seju evolvement in Sumin relationship with Ms. Choi.. how careless the couple were to have sex in the coffee room ?.. same situation happened again between Sumin and Sungji that even the Glasses- Ssi had evidence ( I think recorded.. if you look at chapter 34 .. was she holding a recorder !) ..
Nammi suggested a theory but Seju did not confirm it (I can not see Seju calling the fiancé, seriously she is not that sociable ) .. but she is right.. that does not change anything.. Ms. Choi did cheat+ hided a fiancé .. does Sumin deserve the hurt in case that Seju was the one who ratted the red head out ? well, its debatable.
hehehe Sumin would Fu*k the red head with a strap-on and still imagine Seju .. and immediately ran back to Seju's arms .. they never really broke up to begin with. (they are still trying to break up.. someone please send them a break up manual )

all women in this Manhwa are adult and matured .. they know what they are doing.. the hurting and obsession is not attributed to one character than the other .. I do not even exclude Sungji.. read the chapters when she met Dawoon and the look she gave Sumin .. like she was okay to play with Dawoon giving her mixed messages and again against Seju when she knew what was going on.. till now her actions are far from innocent pure love .

another crucial point is: Sumin is scared of loving Seju (on emotional and physical level.. she almost died bcz of that .. so its not merely about her ability to forgive Seju or not ) that's why they keep this distance .. even Seju mentioned that in chapter 27.. later Seju went to the hospital to stop any possible comeback at Sumin in case she refused to follow her father demand.. (Seju herself does not know exactly the motive behind the scarring that happened to Sumin, I get this idea from her dialogue with Sumin at the hospital )

God I don't even sympathise with any character more than other.. they are like seriously Fucked up in a very human way .. broken promises, toxic relationships.. are they each other family or curse ! only adult theme that was not thrown here is drug addiction and apportion hehehehe

Let's cry a bit since they cancelled today's update !
(I've never seen any loves or kiss scene so artistically portrayed than the ones in WDTFS.. so I will be appreciating them till March 19th)

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I think new update is tomorrow, not March 19th

Seju has been buying Sumin things since before they broke up. That's just a way rich people normally do towards their lovers.

have you ever been in love with someone so much that u feel compiled to fulfil their wishes even without them asking.. even if u r not that rich

How should I know? It's what Nammi said - Seju could've use a different way, but she chose to hurt Sumin, badly.

How could Nami know though? And why should we believe there exists such different ways that wouldn't hurt Sumin? Seju didn't choose to hurt Sumin badly, she didn't order redhead's fiance to do so, it was he himself who chose to hurt her. Like I said, there also was a possibility that he would just break up with his fiance instead after he found out about his fiance cheating with a woman. Redhead too could chose Sumin over her fiance in the end. The fact that redhead's fiance would hurt Sumin, and redhead would chose her fiance over Sumin was not in Seju's control. This action of Seju's could bring different consequences, not just that one that happened, because it all depends on redhead and her fiance too. Just because the consequence it brought was bad wasn't enough to say that Seju meant it to happen that way.

Seju has been buying Sumin things since before they broke up. That's just a way rich people normally do towards their lovers.

have you ever been in love with someone so much that u feel compiled to fulfil their wishes even without them asking.. even if u r not that rich

Where does this question come from? lol I guess this is a rhetorical question asked just to imply that buying things for your lover is common?

That's true. But she also accepted them, when she knew what those gifts mean. Again, it's both of their fault, and this was the point that Gaji wanted to make. Not putting anyone obviously at fault, so people can sympathize with the antagonist too. That's why people like Seju. Because she is not the clearly resentful ex. She has redeeming qualities too, just like Sumin.

I think people are getting more vocal about this lately, because it seems like nothing good is going to happen to Seju.

have you ever been in love with someone so much that u feel compiled to fulfil their wishes even without them asking.. even if u r not that rich

Where does this question come from? lol I guess this is a rhetorical question asked just to imply that buying things for your lover is common?

yup it is.. I happen to buy my long term girlfriend all sort of fancy and normal gifts as long as I could.. even though we had a horrible period between us, still would grant her everything I know she would like. its luv.. so I pretty much relate.. and its not out of a desire to control her.. I just want her to be comfortable.
and u know... It makes me so freaking happy when she likes my gifts and accepts them.. I could tell you that maybe I do it because it makes me happy (maybe more than she is hehehe dont know !)

would you not grant your person their wishes ??

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Why so many people want Seju and Sumin to be friend after all of stuff they had made. It would be awkward friendship af.

Seju never thought of Sumin as her ex gf though.

its the first time the artist put a banner when Seju is touching Sungji instead of Summin .. WTH

I think it probably symbolizes how Sungji got officially between them

I was thinking of a threesome.. but that's me being perverted at 2:00 a.m !

Sungji's eye is scary though, like there's something in it. IMO it seems like, If Seju wants to get near Sumin, she should go through Sungji first.. Lol

who is the main demographic target of WDTFS? imo, this manhwa appeals more to men more than lesbians. the lack of storytelling and abundance of sex scenes makes me want to put this into that category.

imo, there's nothing wrong with Seju giving Sumin everything she need or want. what I don't really like is how Sumin just take it for granted. I mean, she admitted that she intentionally hurt Seju because she resent her. they're both wrong and it's their choice but imo, Seju is the lesser between two evil. Sumin is just using her for revenge and keeping her for convenience. she think Seju is just a tool for her anyway and some readers think Seju is the queen of all evil lol

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Everybody who wants to ship SuminxSungji thinks Seju is the queen of evil. They don't care about the depth and concept of the story.

Doesn't matter what Seju thought, they had broken up (badly i might add) and Sumin attempted to have relationships with others which all failed due to numerous reasons. Including her own self.

As Sumin said they couldn't even end things properly.

Doesn't matter what Sumin thought. If she admitted that they couldn't end thing properly i.e, their relationship never ended. Sumin is still Seju's gf not ex.

Funnily enough the Manhwa makes me only dislike Seju but this thread makes me dislike Sumin as well.

I'm gonna make you dislike Sungji too. lol

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Everybody who wants to ship SuminxSungji thinks Seju is the queen of evil. They don't care about the depth and concept of the story.

they should be thankful to Seju for not firing Sungji because of that Sumin was able to do lewd things to her gf in her office for the last time. I bet SuminxSungji shippers once again cream their pants/panties upon seeing another sex scene of them lol seriously, Sumin loves to do girls from behind. imagine if the artist dare to depict them doing the 69 position, their shippers will probably die from wanking non-stop to it xD

I think they're just misinterpreting Sungji for being pure and innocent. she's just really bland as a character lol

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Everybody who wants to ship SuminxSungji thinks Seju is the queen of evil. They don't care about the depth and concept of the story.

they should be thankful to Seju for not firing Sungji because of that Sumin was able to do lewd things to her gf in her office for the last time. I bet SuminxSungji shippers once again cream their pants/panties upon seeing another sex scene of them lol seriously, Sumin loves to do girls from behind. imagine if the artist dare to depict them doing the 69 position, their shippers will probably die from wanking non-stop to it xD

I think they're just misinterpreting Sungji from being pure and innocent. she's just really bland as a character lol

Lol i bet their shippers did really! Character wise, Sungji's doesn't have much story to tell other than Sumin's gf. Well they say its a healing story then that must be it. A heal for Sumin's heart. But on the other hand, Seju's character has so much to tell. The kind that grows into you and makes you love her despite what she does, the author seems to make readers kind of hate and love her at the same time. Protagonist-antagonist.

Since it seems like SuminxSungji has no more story to tell, because obviously they will end together, what's left is Seju. It will be refreshing to see her move on and be really happy with her life without Sumin.

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who is the main demographic target of WDTFS? imo, this manhwa appeals more to men more than lesbians. the lack of storytelling and abundance of sex scenes makes me want to put this into that category.

wow! totally disagree.. I don't think men are into all this lesbian drama, there are lighter options to get to see all the lesbian kinks compared to this particular manhwa .. and for the sex scenes, what ? don't lesbian have feelings and desires too? we get so lewd too, and if in shape, we would scissor YES.. it not for men .. but for us
finally a freaking Yuri that has a story that
1- not set in a school
2- not about sexual orientation discovery !
3- all women are adult and don't look like animals or cute little girls

is it really so bad that women are comfortable with their sexuality u started to think its for men ?
ever since I started reading it .. I could feel that only women made it and for women..

and the story telling is lacking !! wow .. that's why we reached 211 pages of discussion.. bcz there is no story huh
all these flashbacks and attention to details and even the body language was made randomly to please men.. oh right!!!
not every explicit content is directed for men !

I know some people like the lightness of FF manhwa, if you were comparing like some reviews do.. but I truly can't call the two main characters lesbians..

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Nora69

you don't need to get so worked up with my questions lol besides, I'm not talking about the readers, I'm talking about how the artist created the manhwa. I mean, how many times did we criticized the artist for focusing too much on the sex life of the main couple than building their emotional connection to each other. I'm just saying it feels like this manhwa is trying to appeal more to male readers than lesbians as the sex scen--err...as the story progresses.

roamsl
I totally agree with you. I'm just reading this manhwa out of habit or I have nothing else to read. but yeah, I'm still hanging on this manhwa because of Seju. I actually like Sungji more at first than Seju until the artist focuses more on how to get her and Sumin to finally have sex in a dingy hotel because they were inspired to do it after they saw a het-porn and then their love story (sex life) continues on having sex in every possible location available in the manhwa. (they should do it on Seju's office xD)

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