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Yuri Project
joined Jul 14, 2016

I think Kousaka made the right decision to move away. After what she'd done, eliminating all contact was the most responsible course of action. However, I don't think we can judge her too harshly. When Jinno was a child, her judgment was that of a child. But now she's an adult (23 probably, assuming she moved to Tokyo for university), and this is how she views what happened:

I felt happiness in loving earnestly, and pleasure in being loved earnestly. When it all came to an end, I felt sadness. I felt anger. I felt hatred. And I felt pain. But now all that remains are good memories.

I've known people who pursued relationships with adults when they were 14. Now that they're adults, I can hardly tell them they were victims of sexual assault if they don't feel that way. You cannot trust a child's judgement in these matters, that's the whole reason for age of consent laws: children are not equipped to make these decisions. But adults are capable of making their own decisions, and it's never a good idea to try and tell someone else how they're supposed to feel. Clearly Kousaka was in the wrong at the time. She seduced a child. However, just like I respect a friend's opinion of something that happened to them, a reader should respect Jinno's opinion of what happened to her.

However, that's all just diegetic analysis, when perhaps the more important question is about the author. What is the author's purpose in telling this story? I dismiss out of hand any argument that this is a subject that cannot or should not be made into stories—after all, it's something that happens in real life, and thus is a fit subject for analysis, and thus a fit subject for art. But what about this particular example? This isn't really the story of a predatory adult taking advantage of a child. It's the story of a girl's sexual awakening. I think it's obvious from the structure that the author was focusing on the latter. For one thing, the story is entirely from her perspective, and the ending frames the work as the musings of an adult looking back on a formative incident in her childhood. For another, it's meant to be sexually arousing. The sex scenes are drawn very sensually, and in great detail. Also throughout, there's a major emphasis on the differences between children and adults, both in the Jinna's yearning to be an adult, and in Kousaka's obsession with girlish innocence.

In fact, what I find most curious about this work is that the author never even addresses the fact that this is a story of an adult seducing a child. The ethics or legality of Kousaka's actions are never mentioned. I'm not really sure what to make of that. It's like the author didn't even realize that this would be an issue that readers would think about while reading this work. In the end, my only conclusion is that this is not a serious piece of art. It's a semi-pornographic work in a medium known for its endless supply of mindless pulp. I don't think the author is a criminal, or a pedophile. They're just careless.

last edited at Aug 27, 2019 11:37PM

Ryuko
joined May 1, 2018

Holy f###ing sh#t that was literally rape

Ryuko
joined May 1, 2018

Holy f###ing sh#t that was literally rape

Wtf I finished it and that literally was goddamn rape and abuse holy sh#t. And when the girl was like "yo I regret all that happening, felt like i was being sullied" the woman is like "lmao nahhhh nahhh NAHHHHHH" liKE BRUH WHAT

joined Jul 23, 2017

I got confused by the adult jinno san and the old one, beautiful story but kinda weird and whats with the ending anyway

joined Sep 19, 2019

I actually rather enjoyed this story, it shone a big spotlight on just how fucked up age gap romance stories involving a school kid and adult(usually a teacher, which makes it even worse) really are.
Most of these type of school kid/adult age gap stories tend to fall on the more light hearted/comedic side in order to avoid the uncomfortable implications of them, but once you start reading ones like this you begin to see things unravel.

I'm not shitting on these type of age gap stories btw, I read and enjoy them as much as the next person, but I always try to keep in mind that they're not something to be emulated.

Capture
joined Mar 12, 2014

This is the worst. Glorified pedophilia. The worst. But I'm a terrible shitty human bean so....

Capture
joined Mar 12, 2014

How the predator woman is all like "welp i've got no sex in 4 years, no adult lespies here and this 14 years old is half-naked" as an excuse to screwed a 14 years old is just...

Imagine if the character is male. Yep.

I have a huge bias. I hate myself.

Why

Ao3
joined Apr 23, 2019

Going thru the biting tag and this gem is here, anyone with a biting kink has to appreciate this doujinshi.

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joined Oct 6, 2014

I mean i enjoyed the piece but its definitely rape. And older lady didnt even feel guilty.

Like shit, as a kid being exposed to that kinda sexual shit, you feel like you dont like it but its also really confusing. Its only as an adult that you kind of come to terms with things are realise that damn you were kinda sullied huh. If my abuser came and said "nah you were beautiful" to me after I sais that id punch him in the face

Ak12-an94
joined Mar 10, 2018

This is so damn frustrating ugh

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joined Jun 11, 2020

That "I had sex...?" Part in ch3 had me rolling

The questions I rlly wanna know is
Why is she wearing a kimono??

last edited at Aug 18, 2021 3:02PM

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

That "I had sex...?" Part in ch3 had me rolling

The questions I rlly wanna know is
Why is she wearing a kimono??

You mean Kousaka?
I'm not sure I understand your question. This is Japanese manga, with Japanese characters, and kimono is the traditional Japanese attire, so why wouldn't a Japanese woman wear one?
Today, in the big cities, most Japanese dress in western fashion... but in rural areas women who favor the traditional look are not uncommon.

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joined Jun 22, 2013

Why do the japanese seem to think suddenly dissappearing from someone's life then reappearing years later is the most romantic thing ever?

joined Aug 23, 2021

Soon as I see the comments, I felt triggered for some reasons. I made this account just for this comment.
I shared the same story with them, I'm not here to justify the action of the older woman but to say this kind of story is possible in real life.
I am from Philippines, I was 13 when I met an older woman as well. It was during the Typhoon Yolanda when we met, my family was a victim and she was a volunteer from the US, she's american-citizen but she's actually a filipino herself. I was fascinated by her, not just me but I think everyone in the center likes her. She's really pretty and nice, she empathize with everyone who lost their loved ones and their homes, she comes every other day to give relief goods. Then outside the center there was this tree standing alone, she approached me there while I was trying to look at the stars. Long story short, we have mutual understandings, 3 months of talking we kissed and that's what made her back off realizing I was just a kid, she was 25 that time.Aside from the gap, we're both girls.
She stopped seeing me every night after that, after another couple of months their team fled from the country. My family finally allowed to go back home, but we moved to manila instead. In 2015 we met again at Red Cross, I got her facebook and we started talking through the social media again. She told me we should not meet up until I'm 18. She waited for me, we're in states now and we're still dating.

I don't think it was a rapey subject for the two characters here. It wasn't stockholm either. I guess the author is just trying to test the water of fate here through age gap and it somehow work out and I really like this because I relate with this.

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joined Jul 19, 2018

Soon as I see the comments, I felt triggered for some reasons. I made this account just for this comment.
I shared the same story with them, I'm not here to justify the action of the older woman but to say this kind of story is possible in real life.
I am from Philippines, I was 13 when I met an older woman as well. It was during the Typhoon Yolanda when we met, my family was a victim and she was a volunteer from the US, she's american-citizen but she's actually a filipino herself. I was fascinated by her, not just me but I think everyone in the center likes her. She's really pretty and nice, she empathize with everyone who lost their loved ones and their homes, she comes every other day to give relief goods. Then outside the center there was this tree standing alone, she approached me there while I was trying to look at the stars. Long story short, we have mutual understandings, 3 months of talking we kissed and that's what made her back off realizing I was just a kid, she was 25 that time.Aside from the gap, we're both girls.
She stopped seeing me every night after that, after another couple of months their team fled from the country. My family finally allowed to go back home, but we moved to manila instead. In 2015 we met again at Red Cross, I got her facebook and we started talking through the social media again. She told me we should not meet up until I'm 18. She waited for me, we're in states now and we're still dating.

I don't think it was a rapey subject for the two characters here. It wasn't stockholm either. I guess the author is just trying to test the water of fate here through age gap and it somehow work out and I really like this because I relate with this.

Your story is so beautiful gosh...

last edited at Aug 23, 2021 8:45PM

Lastpersimmondrops
Chi3c
joined Apr 22, 2020

Rereading this because of the new manga from this artist. I really love this, sometimes passion is irrestible when it's mutual.

Untitled
joined Aug 17, 2020

Soon as I see the comments, I felt triggered for some reasons. I made this account just for this comment.
I shared the same story with them, I'm not here to justify the action of the older woman but to say this kind of story is possible in real life.
I am from Philippines, I was 13 when I met an older woman as well. It was during the Typhoon Yolanda when we met, my family was a victim and she was a volunteer from the US, she's american-citizen but she's actually a filipino herself. I was fascinated by her, not just me but I think everyone in the center likes her. She's really pretty and nice, she empathize with everyone who lost their loved ones and their homes, she comes every other day to give relief goods. Then outside the center there was this tree standing alone, she approached me there while I was trying to look at the stars. Long story short, we have mutual understandings, 3 months of talking we kissed and that's what made her back off realizing I was just a kid, she was 25 that time.Aside from the gap, we're both girls.
She stopped seeing me every night after that, after another couple of months their team fled from the country. My family finally allowed to go back home, but we moved to manila instead. In 2015 we met again at Red Cross, I got her facebook and we started talking through the social media again. She told me we should not meet up until I'm 18. She waited for me, we're in states now and we're still dating.

I don't think it was a rapey subject for the two characters here. It wasn't stockholm either. I guess the author is just trying to test the water of fate here through age gap and it somehow work out and I really like this because I relate with this.

Bruh wtf, your story is so beautiful. I hope you and your partner are both well.

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