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joined Mar 27, 2019

Here come the chapter. Like i said in spoiler, i think Ayako might be a lesbian (in the closet probably) but wanted to have a family, since she doesn't have her mom when she was younger. When Akira's bro propose to her, she probably cease the opportunity to have a family and have the family she doesn't have but Husband die (probably because of some shenanigans with Akira since she feel guilty about it. Not that she is the one who kill him directly but she might have said or done something that cause him to have the accident) and she have to raise her daughter alone (well with the help of Akira but mostly alone). I think she have succeed to keep in check for the few times before for Asuka (thought some moments have been harderthan other) because she know that Asuka wouldn't go anywhere far from her and she will still be her daughter but when she see her with Asuka's Senpai, she realise that Asuka could possibly be snatch away from her and ruining her family.So she decide to get along with Asuka's antics to make sure Asuka stay but the ending make me believe she realise she gone a bit too far.

That's a cool assumption :D
This is what I think, Ayako never felt love for anyone and didn't care much for relationships. She probably just went along with the marriage because she doesn't know what to feel. When she got married, she probably cheated with Akira and the husband found out. Might leading to him getting into an accident right after finding out. Hence why Akira feels guilty about her affection for Ayako. I'm guessing when Ayako's stated "someone like me wanting a family with someone was a long dream from the very beginning", Ayako probably wanted a family so she can feel "normal". I'm not 100% on that Ayako wanted a child primarily but she probably did it to be "normal" because she think she's an outcast for her lack of emotions. In addition to her being a cheater, she thinks she doesn't deserve to be happy? Also a far stretch because we don't know 100% she was sexually assaulted as a child, she probably thinks she's "tainted" or "dirty" like most common women think when they are assaulted, hence her not deserving to be happy. Idk this is just what I think.
But who knows? We might when Taiyaki posts the next few chapters. I'm so excited for Ayako's past.

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joined Jul 1, 2014

I hope mom talks this over with Akira and is helped to the realization that she can have her Asuka and eat her, too.

joined Feb 14, 2019

I'm inclined to see her as demi (functionally ace/aro until Asuka started pushing her buttons).

Still feeling pretty good about this interpretation even after the new part, and also my previous comments about alexithymia (see my posting history for more detailed discussion).
Link again for good measure since the condition is not very well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexithymia
Wp definition: "Alexithymia is a personality construct characterized by the subclinical inability to identify and describe emotions experienced by one's self or others."

That's what I think her "someone like me" comment was about (or asexuality which has similar implications), the self-doubt that she is even capable of real feelings/relationships. Up until now her maternal feelings for Asuka have been the one (emotional) thing she was absolutely certain of... and now that is shattered.

Feeling guilty/ashamed after all but assaulting your 16 year old daughter in a fit of jealous lust is pretty natural. She doesn't understand her own motives so she can't even start to forgive herself (or realise that Asuka wasn't particularly upset).

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joined Mar 3, 2019

Fuuck.

When's CH16?

1x1/2 and unrequited love are converging D:

Well, that's going to be painful to read. I can hear the cracks of my own coming heartbreak. :(

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joined Aug 4, 2018

I hope mom talks this over with Akira and is helped to the realization that she can have her Asuka and eat her, too.

I like this comment so much.

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joined May 20, 2013

Ayako's wording of her thoughts and Asuka's dream make me wonder... Could Asuka be adopted?

Edit: I had some related theories almost two years ago, too...

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joined Jun 16, 2015

I saw this coming Asuka is moments away from getting what she claims she wanted only to get cold feet at the last possible second, and Ayako completely freaking out knowing what she was about to do. Completely predictable outcome.

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joined Sep 30, 2018

So guys, do you think Ayako and Asuka will end up together? Or they'll just end up understanding that they've misunderstood their mother and daughter relationship?The theory that Ayako could have cheated with Akira makes me worry that Akira might go in between them X(.
I really want Ayako and Asuka to end up togetherrrr even if I have to taint my soul for that lol

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joined Jan 24, 2020

And finally I make an account, just to comment on this thread. This manga is something of a masterpiece, and I never would have guessed I'd like something with such fucked-up subject matter this much. In terms of both writing and art, it's way beyond most of what's out there. (What's the comics/manga equivalent of cinematography? Taiyaki's a master at it, whatever you call it. The angles and perspectives and the way emotion is visually conveyed in this manga are all incredible.)

In response to Liliwyrt's theory — I think that may be in the general area of what's going on, but I don't think that's quite it. If that's what it was, it would basically just mean that Ayako was carrying around a bunch of internalized homophobia, and I feel that mixing up the issues of Ayako struggling with being a lesbian with the incestuous side of things could very easily end up having a bunch of unfortunate implications. Given that Taiyaki is a lesbian herself, I don't think she would go there. I think there probably is something going on with Akira and whatever happened to Atsushi, but we still don't know what. I have some ideas about what's happening now and where this is going, but it turned into pretty much a whole essay when I went to write it out. I'll share my thoughts once I've trimmed it down a bit...

joined Feb 14, 2019

I saw this coming Asuka is moments away from getting what she claims she wanted only to get cold feet at the last possible second, and Ayako completely freaking out knowing what she was about to do. Completely predictable outcome.

I think mostly she was worried by Ayako's sudden change in behaviour and wanted reassurance everything was ok (that and her legs were about to give out!).

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joined Feb 4, 2015

For fuck's sake Asuka you're like if Tottenham was a person

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joined Jul 22, 2018

ah shit here we go

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joined Dec 26, 2014

Here we go again
Waiting patiently for the next glorious chapter

joined Mar 29, 2019

Now press Y to wait

joined Jun 25, 2017

It's here!!!! And I already want more. Thank you so much for translations and being as quick as possible!

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joined Jun 16, 2015

I saw this coming Asuka is moments away from getting what she claims she wanted only to get cold feet at the last possible second, and Ayako completely freaking out knowing what she was about to do. Completely predictable outcome.

I think mostly she was worried by Ayako's sudden change in behaviour and wanted reassurance everything was ok (that and her legs were about to give out!).

Nope Asuka got cold feet and Ayako got totally freaked out

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joined Jun 4, 2015

I think it's more than that she couldn't handle it. It was more forced than natural, and it freaked Asuka out, then Ayako snaps out of the daze she's in.

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joined Mar 23, 2019

Q~Q T_T Q~Q

Oh.
For.
Fucks.
Sake.

Every single emotion hit hard like a run away train when reading this chapter. Taiyaki you EVIL genius!

last edited at Jan 25, 2020 1:52AM

Itty%20bitty%20demon%20king_2
joined Mar 23, 2019

Fuuck.

When's CH16?

1x1/2 and unrequited love are converging D:

I know right? Glad I'm not the only one that was thinking this.

joined Jun 25, 2017

I'm like you. I couldn't resist the suspense anymore. I went to Mangadex and read it.
I was like "Development! YAY!" I totally loved it, I was so thrilled...

... until the final page.

(https://memeshappen.com/media/created/2018/08/-NOOOO-PLEASE-NOOOOOO.jpg)

☝️
Same.

Sigh. But I guess Ayako going to Akira is development? I hope she opens up and can accept her feelings. Same way we had to see Asuka struggle with her realization. Except it's not one sided anymore. Or was it ever??? Fuck!!!

last edited at Jan 25, 2020 7:02PM by Nezchan

joined Jun 25, 2017

commenting again just to say i really want to see ayako's pov more and i will never stop saying it

From the looks of it, we are getting to see Ayako's feelings for Asuka develop, the same way we got Asukas pov. And it's soooo gooood!!! I need those 2 to be like

joined Jun 25, 2017

Fuuck.

When's CH16?

1x1/2 and unrequited love are converging D:

☝️☝️☝️

Yes, although I think Ayako and Asuka have more of a chance. Lol

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joined Jul 1, 2014

I hope mom talks this over with Akira and is helped to the realization that she can have her Asuka and eat her, too.

I like this comment so much.

Thankies~

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joined Aug 12, 2013

i had a personal boycott of this story for three years because large age gap + mother/daughter incest disgusted me. but now i read every update. i still don't support those things but the character development of Ayako is so intriguing to me. plus the drama hurts so good. can't wait for the next chapter T-T

joined Jan 24, 2020

All right, even trimmed down this is probably too long a post, but this is my guess as to what's going on with Ayako and where all this is going.

So, in this chapter, Ayako thinks that "in the end, wanting to be a family with someone was just a long dream from the very beginning." We also learn that she never knew her mother, and in the first half of this chapter we saw that she was probably molested as a child. (There was some debate over it here, but I can't interpret that panel any other way.) In that same section, we also learn that she doesn't understand her own emotions. We learn in earlier chapters that she was seen as emotionless by others. She says to Asuka when Asuka first confesses that "it's probably all my fault." And then there's Akira's line about how "that you-know-what of yours proved to be effective even on your own flesh and blood", which I think is a very important line that we still don't know the exact meaning of. I think these are all connected, and that there's something here which I think is going to be at the core of how the story develops from here.

My best guess at it is this: Ayako likely had a horrific childhood, though we don't know the details of it other than that she was molested and that she never knew her mother. As a result, she's deeply traumatized and has probably always perceived herself as broken. Akira's line about "that-you-know-what of yours" seems potentially also very revealing in this context. I am guessing that Ayako may have felt herself unable to truly love another person or to forge a connection on any level other than the sexual one, and I suspect she may have had a hypersexual phase at one point as a product of her own past trauma and her attempt to pursue some level of connection that she felt like she couldn't achieve otherwise. (This part is more speculative, but the "that you-know-what of yours" line makes me think there's something like that going on.) Once she had Asuka, that changed, but she probably still feared or felt that on the deepest level, she wasn't capable of love. Atsushi and whatever happened with him likely ties in with all this, but I still don't feel like there's enough information to say how, or what that relationship was like. Ayako does seem to view him in a basically positive light, for whatever that's worth.

Finding out that Asuka was sexually attracted to her probably was, to Ayako, a confirmation of some of her worst fears. To her, it was proof that Asuka had been influenced by her own damaged nature, and that there wasn't any way that she (Ayako) could love or be loved other than in the erotic sense. At the same time, she clearly feels attraction to Asuka and has before Asuka's confession (the flashback scene with the 'delicious' bento), which she suppresses and likely, to the extent she even allows herself to acknowledge it, views as the product of her own damage. (It probably is, honestly.) This grows all the more intense as Asuka escalates things, and then, this chapter, the dam breaks and she snaps into... basically, an old, hypersexual pattern, if my theory is correct. When she comes back to herself and recognizes what's happened, she basically feels it to be confirmation that she can only truly connect with others on the sexual level, and that things would inevitably end up this way. So she goes to Akira (who I think is an important figure to Ayako in ways that still haven't been revealed), and that's where we are now. That's my best guess, anyway... we'll see how things develop.

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