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Sazanami Cherry is not fucking Yaoi and whoever added that tag is an asshole. Ren is a trans girl, she is a girl. The author is clumsy about it and doesn't seem to know that hormones exist, but she is a girl. This is heterosexual.

joined May 2, 2013

This is not Yaoi. This is Het. This is a romance between a girl and a boy. That the girl happens to be trans is not a qualifier for it being Yaoi. It's a Heterosexual romance.

last edited at May 2, 2013 5:35PM

Prprcharlotte_8
joined Apr 1, 2013

I'm not against yaoi either and it indeed seems cute (i haven't read it yet) but i definitely prefer Yuri :3
I'd prefer this site to be only yuri.... but i have no right on it and i'm so grateful for all the scans that i won't complain anymore x)

joined Jan 31, 2013

Someone put a yaoi manga in a yuri manga page.Whoever came up with that idea is a real cocksucker...sucks cock

This isn't Yuri reader, it's Dynasty reader, they put whatever they please

joined May 2, 2013

Thanks to whoever removed the Yaoi tag <3

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joined Oct 8, 2010

Someone put a yaoi manga in a yuri manga page.Whoever came up with that idea is a real cocksucker...sucks cock

This isn't Yuri reader, it's Dynasty reader, they put whatever they please

I agree, complaining about the series simply because it has a tag you don't like isn't discussion of the content. Do not do this.

The tags have also been fixed and the tagger flogged.

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This and Past Future were pretty good. Thanks for adding them.

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joined Jun 28, 2012

Hmm, while this is cute and fun and all, I dunno if the Transsexual tag really fits. It seems more straight-up crossdressing, like in Prunus Girl or Reversal, than an identification or desire on Ren's part to actually be a girl. Even the author's end notes seem to refer only to crossdressing.

That said, I find it hilarious to see people whining about yaoi on the reader when there's been yaoi in the reader for at least FOUR YEARS! Many lulz were had.

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She doesn't identify as a male, thus being a transsexual. You're thinking of it purely on a physical form when it applies mentally as well.

last edited at May 2, 2013 9:01PM

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joined May 2, 2013

Someone put a yaoi manga in a yuri manga page.Whoever came up with that idea is a real cocksucker...sucks cock

This isn't Yuri reader, it's Dynasty reader, they put whatever they please

I agree, complaining about the series simply because it has a tag you don't like isn't discussion of the content. Do not do this.

The tags have also been fixed and the tagger flogged.

Yeah i now i wont do it again xD

Nezchan Moderator
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Actually, I'm going by the fact that he never in the story identifies, or even refers to himself as female. And in fact, while he treasures the clothing, still sees it as fashion.

As a trans woman myself, I can assure you I'm thinking about a bit more than physical form here.

I will give you that the older sister may be trans, but again there's no identifcation and she refers to herself quite forthrightly as a guy multiple times. So perhaps a dedicated crossdresser instead, which does happen.

last edited at May 2, 2013 9:21PM

joined May 2, 2013

I'm a trans woman too. This does feel more like the author reassuring their own insecurities by making the characters say they are boys, and it is very weird how it's done. They definitely seem more like trans girls/women from any viewpoint.

Nezchan Moderator
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Well, certainly in the case of the elder sibling, It wouldn't be strange at all to characterize them as trans. Ren is a bit trickier to pin down, and based on the story seems more like a crossdresser who really looks up to their older sister. However, we've only got the story itself to go by, so waddaya gonna do?

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joined Aug 10, 2011

Well, certainly in the case of the elder sibling, It wouldn't be strange at all to characterize them as trans. Ren is a bit trickier to pin down, and based on the story seems more like a crossdresser who really looks up to their older sister. However, we've only got the story itself to go by, so waddaya gonna do?

We'll petition the author to release a public statement.

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Seeing as it ended it's kinda left in limbo which is the case.
It's never stated outright they feel like the opposing gender, but considering the ending perhaps it's justified enough?

Nezchan Moderator
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Well, certainly in the case of the elder sibling, It wouldn't be strange at all to characterize them as trans. Ren is a bit trickier to pin down, and based on the story seems more like a crossdresser who really looks up to their older sister. However, we've only got the story itself to go by, so waddaya gonna do?

We'll petition the author to release a public statement.

Which he apparently did with the end notes, and repeatedly called both of them "traps" (ugh).

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joined Aug 10, 2011

Seeing as it ended it's kinda left in limbo which is the case.
It's never stated outright they feel like the opposing gender, but considering the ending perhaps it's justified enough?

There's two at least half transgendered persons in the manga, that justifies the tag enough.

joined May 2, 2013

To me it's like the author didn't really knew much about it, like how Ren says he would be able to be a girl when he's young, because when he grows up he would become a man, becauso you know HRT and SRS apparently don't exist in that world.

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Yeah, there's also this weird thing that shows up in a few of the crossdressing mangas that have been popping up on the reader, to the effect that every guy will grow up to be big and beefy. It's like there's no such thing as varying body types.

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Yuri Project
joined Dec 12, 2012

Always funny to see yuri fanboys flipping their shit at the vaguest hint of yaoi. Because that's the disgusting kind of gay you go to hell for, apparently. I wonder how many fujoshi threw such a visceral tantrum when lesbians started appearing in Prunus Girl.

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joined Feb 17, 2013

Always funny to see yuri fanboys flipping their shit at the vaguest hint of yaoi. Because that's the disgusting kind of gay you go to hell for, apparently. I wonder how many fujoshi threw such a visceral tantrum when lesbians started appearing in Prunus Girl.

^ Funny.

I actually like all the trans stuff going up. The terminology is a bit crude, but does it really matter? Even if it was actually yaoi it shouldn't be an issue, considering all the other things that are on this reader. If there must be futa, let there be yaoi.

For all the cereal though, totally sers. I really like that the main male doesn't have much hesitation about Ren's gender. It's nice to see things like this and Prunus Girl.

Also, funny stuff about the yaoi vs yuri on the reader. Many lesbians end up watching gay male porn given that it's typically more romantic than lesbian porn aimed at males. (Citation, lesbian blog: http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/why-do-lesbians-love-gay-man-porn/) I of course have a preference for reading about female relationships as a lesbian, but am not opposed at all to het or yaoi. Cute is cute. If it's cute, I'll read it.

This is cute.

last edited at May 4, 2013 10:17AM

Nezchan Moderator
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Also, funny stuff about the yaoi vs yuri on the reader. Many lesbians end up watching gay male porn given that it's typically more romantic than lesbian porn aimed at males. (Citation, lesbian blog: http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/why-do-lesbians-love-gay-man-porn/) I of course have a preference for reading about female relationships as a lesbian, but am not opposed at all to het or yaoi. Cute is cute. If it's cute, I'll read it.

A huge portion of the lesbians I know online (and some in RL) are totally into yaoi and gay porn, so at least one person's experience resonates with the idea. I've never been super into it (despite being a female-preferring bi female) but I can't say I haven't written some fanfic that way in the past. Heh.

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Also, funny stuff about the yaoi vs yuri on the reader. Many lesbians end up watching gay male porn given that it's typically more romantic than lesbian porn aimed at males. (Citation, lesbian blog: http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/why-do-lesbians-love-gay-man-porn/) I of course have a preference for reading about female relationships as a lesbian, but am not opposed at all to het or yaoi. Cute is cute. If it's cute, I'll read it.

A huge portion of the lesbians I know online (and some in RL) are totally into yaoi and gay porn, so at least one person's experience resonates with the idea. I've never been super into it (despite being a female-preferring bi female) but I can't say I haven't written some fanfic that way in the past. Heh.

Fact: My girlfriend only likes gay male porn. I don't have much of a preference. We're both inclined to only watch making out parts though > there's the typical romanticism, right?

But anyway, I'm glad the tag was changed to het for this. Maybe some people will give it a chance.

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TBH, as much as I'd rather it were the other way, I'd personally say take the trans tag off and put the yaoi one on. Word Of God in the endnotes says Ren's a boy, and no amount of wishing will change that.

Although I can READ it any way I want! =D

joined May 2, 2013

I say leave it ambiguous if you must do anything. That way people can read into it what they want. The current tags are excellent.

(I will always side-eye people who read this as yaoi though. Side-eye I tell you.)

last edited at May 4, 2013 12:01PM

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