The girls who fight, it mean they are destined couple in this franchise

I can't believe Fate is even more of a badass, dashing prince in this manga. All the more reason to look forward to her meeting Nanoha again, we all know the second they lay eyes on each other, Fate is devolving into moeblob mode.

Or into wife-scolding mode.

I wonder if the incident before Strikers will still happen on this new timeline. I'm not seeing a threat yet but maybe Filly will awaken her witch rampage or something.

You know what, I really love the direction the manga is going. The franchise has been too focused on mecha and guns, so I'm glad they're focusing on magic again. And the exploitation of women theme? Cheff kiss.

You know what, I really love the direction the manga is going. The franchise has been too focused on mecha and guns, so I'm glad they're focusing on magic again. And the exploitation of women theme? Cheff kiss.

Same. I wasn't sure about it at first, but now it's really growing on me.

So...... NEW ANIME THIS YEAR!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzvGIjaMbYE

Yup.

Fate is so cool and handsome. I'm swooning.

Fate is rocking the ponytail.

Nanoha casually confirming that she doesn't normally take prisoners

I feel like this series is weird, and I'm speaking as a huge Nanoha fan.

Like, just the numbering is confusing; why is everything numbered like mini chapters? The split focus on robots, the TSAB, and the villains means no one is getting characterization, the pacing is bizarre, and as of this chapter, it seems like the villains were... kind of right? It turn out witches ARE both very real and incredibly dangerous. Why did this even start? Witch ghosts are apparently a thing? Who even ordered this and how is the intergalactic government only JUST hearing about this full genocide when there's only one witch left? Who funded these guys?

Nanoha casually confirming that she doesn't normally take prisoners

Heh.

More seriously, she's not used to people surrendering before being blasted unconscious.

how is the intergalactic government only JUST hearing about this full genocide when there's only one witch left? Who funded these guys?

Worldbuilding has never been the strength of Nanoha, and this movie continuity might abandon what few details we got from StrikerS. But the interdimensional "government", TSAB, distinguishes between Administered and Unadministered worlds. Presumably this is one of the latter, and thus not under Bureau jurisdiction or attention (the Bureau is chronically overworked.) My guess is that the UN of this planet recently asked the Bureau for help, or maybe Hayate volunteered for undisclosed reasons, but anyway information is naturally limited. Sort of like a small NATO team visiting some large African country, if we had less mass communication.

If you mean who funded the cyborgs like Zeo and Nanoha's prisoners, that would be the military of Darnaza, the particular country they're in on this planet.

I thought Filly lost her head for a sec like the Elden Ring Lord of Frenzied Flame.

So, apparently Zed missed the memo about this being Magical Girl Gundam and he's off having a DBZ fight on his own.

Also, the shear irony of the general talking about how no nation would accept the existence of a woman who could single-handedly beat their entire army, to a woman who just single-handedly no-diffed his army and who commands several more women who could low-diff entire armies makes me wonder if there's some foreshadowing going on.

"a woman who could single-handedly beat their entire army,"

Hmm, I thought he was talking about Zeo, there. They created something too powerful and want him put down.

Also, the shear irony of the general talking about how no nation would accept the existence of a woman who could single-handedly beat their entire army, to a woman who just single-handedly no-diffed his army and who commands several more women who could low-diff entire armies makes me wonder if there's some foreshadowing going on.

I'm reading it more as dramatic irony, personally. Apparently even the country's leadership have no idea how small a pond they're swimming in. The TSAB wouldn't even need to involve rare, absurdly powerful people like Hayate or resort to WMDs, a crew of D-rank mages on a dinky old patrol ship like the Asura could 1v1 their entire civilization without contest. Nothing about this planet is dangerous to anyone but themselves, this whole operation is an act of charity on the part of Exceeds.

Also, the shear irony of the general talking about how no nation would accept the existence of a woman who could single-handedly beat their entire army, to a woman who just single-handedly no-diffed his army and who commands several more women who could low-diff entire armies makes me wonder if there's some foreshadowing going on.

I'm reading it more as dramatic irony, personally. Apparently even the country's leadership have no idea how small a pond they're swimming in. The TSAB wouldn't even need to involve rare, absurdly powerful people like Hayate or resort to WMDs, a crew of D-rank mages on a dinky old patrol ship like the Asura could 1v1 their entire civilization without contest. Nothing about this planet is dangerous to anyone but themselves, this whole operation is an act of charity on the part of Exceeds.

Eh. I wouldn't go that far. Zed, and the other cyborgs, seemed capable of at least temporarily standing up to Nanoha, which puts them leagues above the typical D-rank and their tech was shown to have some effectiveness against magic. Some orbital bombardment might shift that equation, but that's also not how the TSAB typically handles things.

Beyond that, while the statement itself was definitely dramatic irony, that doesn't mean it can't also be foreshadowing. Sure, these guys are big fish in a small pond and have no idea what they're dealing with, but that doesn't mean the actual big fish can't have similar worries. After all, Hayate, Nanoha, and Fate all represent pretty absurd power levels even by Midchilda's standards. If I recall correctly, they've already had to up the top end of their power scale multiple times for them. There were also some grumblings about the amount of power concentrated in Hayate's organization, and only really answerable to her, in StrikerS. So there's already some precedent for these kinds of concerns and themes.

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If I recall correctly, they've already had to up the top end of their power scale multiple times for them.

No, apart maybe from Hayate, they're rare (and crazy young), not unique. Fate and Nanoha were AAA at 9, Chrono was AAA at 14. StrikerS Fate and Nanoha are S+ (Air), but so was Zest. Even Precia had a SS (Composite/Synthetic) rank like Hayate, though I think Precia's rating depended on external power sources, whereas Hayate is the "Walking Lost Logia", a self-contained tacnuke arsenal.

Filly's Last Witch form seems pretty powerful, especially with that instant-regeneration ability. But also seems bound to the land somehow, so yeah, Bureau could just ignore the whole planet, which doesn't have much mobility.

rainbow8 posted:

If I recall correctly, they've already had to up the top end of their power scale multiple times for them.

No, apart maybe from Hayate, they're rare (and crazy young), not unique. Fate and Nanoha were AAA at 9, Chrono was AAA at 14. StrikerS Fate and Nanoha are S+ (Air), but so was Zest. Even Precia had a SS (Composite/Synthetic) rank like Hayate, though I think Precia's rating depended on external power sources, whereas Hayate is the "Walking Lost Logia", a self-contained tacnuke arsenal.

Filly's Last Witch form seems pretty powerful, especially with that instant-regeneration ability. But also seems bound to the land somehow, so yeah, Bureau could just ignore the whole planet, which doesn't have much mobility.

Huh. I could have sworn the ranking system didn't originally go all the way to S or SS.

She girlbossed all over them.

Huh. I could have sworn the ranking system didn't originally go all the way to S or SS.

I don't know the exact history of what ranks appeared in which Nanoha works when, but I am pretty sure that there was no hint of the Bureau having to invent new ranks just to accommodate any named characters.

Eh. I wouldn't go that far. Zed, and the other cyborgs, seemed capable of at least temporarily standing up to Nanoha, which puts them leagues above the typical D-rank and their tech was shown to have some effectiveness against magic. Some orbital bombardment might shift that equation, but that's also not how the TSAB typically handles things.

Beyond that, while the statement itself was definitely dramatic irony, that doesn't mean it can't also be foreshadowing. Sure, these guys are big fish in a small pond and have no idea what they're dealing with, but that doesn't mean the actual big fish can't have similar worries. After all, Hayate, Nanoha, and Fate all represent pretty absurd power levels even by Midchilda's standards. If I recall correctly, they've already had to up the top end of their power scale multiple times for them. There were also some grumblings about the amount of power concentrated in Hayate's organization, and only really answerable to her, in StrikerS. So there's already some precedent for these kinds of concerns and themes.

It's not how they typically handle things, but the TSAB has demonstrated that their morality can get malleable when the higher-ups feel like they're up against a wall. If the planet somehow became a threat, getting their military bases Arc-en-Ciel'd out of existence would not be surprising. Hence the irony; if their floundering about was as meaningful as they think it is, they'd probably be causing themselves more trouble in the long run.

That'd be more of a callback than foreshadowing. I'd be kind of surprised if Hayate didn't already understand that her absurd power is causing friction for whatever group she's in, too. That might be how she managed to form Exceeds in the first place: the age-old solution of sending a troublesome military figure to some remote province where they can't lend power to any particular side. Can't argue with the fact that they're playing with a different side of a familiar theme, though, and I love to see it.

Huh. I could have sworn the ranking system didn't originally go all the way to S or SS.

I don't know the exact history of what ranks appeared in which Nanoha works when, but I am pretty sure that there was no hint of the Bureau having to invent new ranks just to accommodate any named characters.

I had it in my head that the top of the scale used Olivie as the definition of SSS, but that might've just been a Gamesverse thing. At any rate, yeah, there's definitely supposed to be historical precedent for people like Nanoha and team. And given how many worlds the TSAB is implied to cover, I'd be surprised if there weren't several more S+ than we've seen, possibly even another SS, they just didn't happen to be on Midchilda during the time of the show. Though we can be reasonably confident Hayate has the most raw power of any living mage, since it's why the Book of Darkness attached to her.

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Olivie as the definition of SSS, but that might've just been a Gamesverse thing.

Yeah, Game Theory or other fanon, don't think there was actually an official rating for Olivie. (Which would have to be an estimate based on historical record, anyway.)

Hayate has the most raw power of any living mage, since it's why the Book of Darkness attached to her.

Eh, I think canonically, Hayate is powerful because Reinforce's Linker Core somehow was merged in with hers. Aleph ranted about how that doesn't make sense, and ruled Hayate was born a magical monster, but I don't think there's anything canonically about the Book seeking out the strongest living mage. Though I suppose that could be one explanation for why it latched onto a small child or even baby this time.