Everyone is ambivert. Nobody is fully extroverted or introverted. It's a spectrum.

Everyone is ambivert. Nobody is fully extroverted or introverted. It's a spectrum.

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Everyone is ambivert. Nobody is fully extroverted or introverted. It's a spectrum.

A statement which erases the real differences between people.

rainbow8 posted:

A statement which erases the real differences between people.

Does it really matter when those differences are arbitrary in the first place? As far as I can tell focusing too much on differences and insisting on forcing people into labels did more harm than good so far. Also can you really say it erases anything, when everyone being a bit extroverted and introverted is a fact?

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It's also a fact that people differ greatly in where they fall on the spectrum. Saying just "everyone is ambivert" is completely useless, it removes the possibility of conveying useful information.

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Does it really matter when those differences are arbitrary in the first place?

I'm sorry but what. Last I checked "introvert" and "extrovert" were descriptive shorthands for very real and noticeable differences in behavioural patterns and personality types, not cultural artifacts. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly needs to get out and actually interact with real people more.

Source: firsthand life experience as an introvert with multiple extroverted friends and relatives.

I made a mistake in my statement, but tone of the comments doesn't really encourage me to admit it.

...that edit really just rendered your whole point incoherent. How the heck are those differences supposed to be simultaneously "arbitrary" and "a fact"?

Except I didn't change anything. That edit was some grammar fix so it was like that before you replied to me, so did you reply to me without reading entire comment?

Don't want to get into that argument but at least I agree that I don't want more labels on me or remember even more existing ones... I just need my name and my nature and anyone will judge me differently anyway.

Well in real life most people would say "Serene is very very.... very quiet"

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Except I didn't change anything. That edit was some grammar fix so it was like that before you replied to me, so did you reply to me without reading entire comment?

The part I previously quoted was bad enough by itself. So much the worse if the whole thing was nonsense in the technical meaning of the term.

The above point duly stands. What the heck are you even trying to say there?

Don't want to get into that argument but at least I agree that I don't want more labels on me or remember even more existing ones... I just need my name and my nature and anyone will judge me differently anyway.

Well in real life most people would say "Serene is very very.... very quiet"

Which most people (familiar with the vocabulary anyway) will also readily and intuitively understand to fall under the umbrella descriptor "introverted", which was kind of the point - the terms are descriptors of readily recognisable aspects of individual personalities, not arbitrary social constructs. They serve a practical purpose as such words now do.

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But we already had the word quiet, calm and etc... I find it obsessive, like for people who are afraid of losing grip ,,, If you put 3 or 5 labels on me and tomorrow I decide to something that goes against that, then people will be forced to change their descriptions, and if the next day I do something unexpected again then we will need to come with new terms for me or try to convince me that I should go back to who I was, who knows maybe they'll praise me because they like me more now but all my life I was just being myself, I'm not saying is wrong to try and keep things under control, I just don't care what people expect me to be/do based on their analysis, and I'm not sorry for having a twitter account with a description that only says I like anime and music... And even with just that, people will be like YOU'RE A WEEB!! and intuitively create a behavior pattern for me, I hate that, can we just have an open mind and relax?

We're just separating humanity more and more... Is kinda like, when you see a M from E and think they must like X or Y and it all starts the moment we separated a group billion of people into very specific patterns, labeling and preconceptions over time... just saying, don't try to put me in a tiny box, inside a box inside a bigger box. Some people are inside so many boxes that the words start to lose meaning anyway, well, I'm just rambling at this point

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Well I guess it's time to throw away one of my pairs of shoes. The holes in them are way too big now. It's nice they lasted as long as they did which is about 8+ years.

^ Wow! I don't think even the longest lived pair of mine managed to get over 5. Though, that may be due to feet growth tending to be fastest in childhood and adolescence, the latter of which I'm only now in the long conclusion of.

^ I'm still wearing shoes I got 6 years ago, they're still almost like new cuz I'm poor and obsessive about taking care of the stuff I own. I guess it helps im at home a lot too, but either way, lol

But we already had the word quiet, calm and etc...

...I'm not sure why you're talking like these were somehow new terms (they're rather old Latin derivatives), but they're catchalls covering recognisable ranges of personality traits. They describe, in single words, what you can broadly expect of someone by way of interpersonal interaction - useful shorthands, when delving into greater detail is unnecessary or unwarranted.

I find it obsessive, like for people who are afraid of losing grip ,,, If you put 3 or 5 labels on me and tomorrow I decide to something that goes against that, then people will be forced to change their descriptions, and if the next day I do something unexpected again then we will need to come with new terms for me or try to convince me that I should go back to who I was, who knows maybe they'll praise me because they like me more now but all my life I was just being myself, I'm not saying is wrong to try and keep things under control, I just don't care what people expect me to be/do based on their analysis, and I'm not sorry for having a twitter account with a description that only says I like anime and music... And even with just that, people will be like YOU'RE A WEEB!! and intuitively create a behavior pattern for me, I hate that, can we just have an open mind and relax?

We're just separating humanity more and more... Is kinda like, when you see a M from E and think they must like X or Y and it all starts the moment we separated a group billion of people into very specific patterns, labeling and preconceptions over time... just saying, don't try to put me in a tiny box, inside a box inside a bigger box. Some people are inside so many boxes that the words start to lose meaning anyway, well, I'm just rambling at this point

Er... what? What does any of this have to do with broad-strokes summaries of observed particular behavioral patterns?

"we already had the word quiet, calm"

But those words don't mean the same thing.

Extroversion is one of the Big Five personality traits, extracted via statistics from lots of personality survey data, i.e. it's one of five prominent axes or dimensions that stand out in the data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#Extroversion

I've known people who were introverted but outgoing (capable of holding conversations with strangers or multiple people easily, but drained by the experience) and people who were extroverted but shy (found it hard to speak up in a crowd but really wanted to be in the crowd).

I'm talking about labellings in general if that's confusing, not just those terms, I'm fine if you want to be called one way or the other just don't do that to me, you might be disappointed if I don't met your expectations

I spent most of my orbs in FEH and didn't get a single fairy character. Thankfully I did get two of the other units that were on rate up, another 5* unit and a decent amount of goodies. Apparently getting Okita Alter in FGO ate up my luck for a while...

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I'm talking about labellings in general if that's confusing, not just those terms, I'm fine if you want to be called one way or the other just don't do that to me, you might be disappointed if I don't met your expectations

General descriptions and analytical frameworks are not "labels" any more than, say, "tall" or "short". You also seem to be laboring under some rather considerable misunderstandings as to their use and purpose.

the only label we need is comrade

the only label we need is comrade

song of the united front starts playing in the distance

I think you're being a bit too pessimistic. Though, there's is a distinct difference between willing to help and knowing how to help. I am the former, but not the latter, unfortunately. I could at least be a listening ear if you need one, and I'm sure I'm not the only Dynasty Reader willing to be one.

the only label we need is comrade

Note that the Russian revolutionaries originally used bratva, "brother" - "comrade" was something the Bolsheviks insisted on. Make what you will of that.