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F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

Saw the raws, it has a very nice color page everything else felt super rushed, gramps' reaction was heavily underwhelming and I won't say anything else considering this is the last chapter after all.

Mog2
joined Jul 29, 2017

The spin-off will narrate Yuzu and Mei happy day by day life ... it is what the author said in the Hime Cafe Interview of YH 10.

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

https://twitter.com/glidesloe/status/1030480728121700352

Hmm, is this implying she was Saburota the entire time?

4bbe1078a9d82bf519de9e5fc56dee60
joined Feb 18, 2018

Summary of Citrus:

  1. Mei = sexy nutcase, drama was all in her head...arguably worse than NTR's Hotaru
  2. Yuzu = dumbass MC, can't close deals so never delivered Yuzutop
  3. Matsuri = only person with brains, winner of Friend of the Year Award
  4. Harumi = average person, proof that "nice girls finish last"

Can't say I wasn't happy with the ending. Thank you Sabu, now we can RIP.

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

Summary of Citrus:

  1. Mei = sexy nutcase, drama was all in her head...arguably worse than NTR's Hotaru
  2. Yuzu = dumbass MC, can't close deals so never delivered Yuzutop
  3. Matsuri = only person with brains, winner of Friend of the Year Award
  4. Harumi = average person, proof that "nice girls finish last"

Can't say I wasn't happy with the ending. Thank you Sabu, now we can RIP.

Do you ever stop complaining or being rude about what go's on with the series?

last edited at Aug 17, 2018 3:32PM

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joined Jun 16, 2016

Summary of Citrus:

  1. Mei = sexy nutcase, drama was all in her head...arguably worse than NTR's Hotaru
  2. Yuzu = dumbass MC, can't close deals so never delivered Yuzutop
  3. Matsuri = only person with brains, winner of Friend of the Year Award
  4. Harumi = average person, proof that "nice girls finish last"

Can't say I wasn't happy with the ending. Thank you Sabu, now we can RIP.

Best summary ever.

Profileaavatar
joined Mar 22, 2016

Rushed and forced ending. It's like the first season of Citrus anime.

Worst yuri in terms of writing.

last edited at Aug 17, 2018 8:31PM

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joined Dec 9, 2014

Citrus was getting increasingly worse and worse. Last chapter is really a joke. So many whats and what the hell going on. No actual development in the characters and Yuzu still desperately after Mei for no valid reason. Mei still being highly unlikable.

getting married? Really? They're like 16. Also how everyone magically knew and wasn't shocked and how easily the grandpa was convinced

That's like as if a kid was writing the story.

last edited at Aug 17, 2018 8:20PM

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

Do any of you ever stop complaining about every little thing that happens in a chapter when it's released? Just cause it didn't match your ideologies, doesn't mean it wasn't good for the rest of us.

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joined Jun 16, 2016

Do any of you ever stop complaining about every little thing that happens in a chapter when it's released? Just cause it didn't match your ideologies, doesn't mean it wasn't good for the rest of us.

No we have standard.

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

Calling them little things is really incredible considering those little things make the entire ending.

joined Feb 17, 2018

Welp.....that was rushed but oddly sweet....maybe....
Too many "what ifs" and unanswered questions.....oh well 2018 has been the year of rushed endings when it comes to yurt's.

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

Do any of you ever stop complaining about every little thing that happens in a chapter when it's released? Just cause it didn't match your ideologies, doesn't mean it wasn't good for the rest of us.

How was it good by any standard? As an actual story it doesnt make a damn lick of sense. Almost all the conflicts and plot points were just swept aside like they didnt even exist in the first place. There is absolutely no character development. Mei wasnt even present during the majority of the last volume. Its just so god awful that its hard to imagine that anyone genuinely believes that this was "good".

That's your opinion though.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Do any of you ever stop complaining about every little thing that happens in a chapter when it's released? Just cause it didn't match your ideologies, doesn't mean it wasn't good for the rest of us.

How was it good by any standard? As an actual story it doesnt make a damn lick of sense. Almost all the conflicts and plot points were just swept aside like they didnt even exist in the first place. There is absolutely no character development. Mei wasnt even present during the majority of the last volume. Its just so god awful that its hard to imagine that anyone genuinely believes that this was "good".

That's your opinion though.

What are you even talking about? People have gone into extensive detail about what went wrong with this series, what its good and bad aspects have been, how it could have been improved, what it did well or (mostly) poorly compared to other manga series, and they’ve put forth detailed analyses of the characters and their inconsistencies, etc.

Those are “opinions,” yes, but those are “opinions” presented along with “reasons,” “arguments,” and “evidence,” which combined together are called “literary/artistic criticism.”

“How is it good by any standard?” is a real question which (theoretically) someone who really liked the story could answer.

But complaining about people’s “ideologies” is just gibberish.

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

Do any of you ever stop complaining about every little thing that happens in a chapter when it's released? Just cause it didn't match your ideologies, doesn't mean it wasn't good for the rest of us.

How was it good by any standard? As an actual story it doesnt make a damn lick of sense. Almost all the conflicts and plot points were just swept aside like they didnt even exist in the first place. There is absolutely no character development. Mei wasnt even present during the majority of the last volume. Its just so god awful that its hard to imagine that anyone genuinely believes that this was "good".

That's your opinion though.

What are you even talking about? People have gone into extensive detail about what went wrong with this series, what its good and bad aspects have been, how it could have been improved, what it did well or (mostly) poorly compared to other manga series, and they’ve put forth detailed analyses of the characters and their inconsistencies, etc.

Those are “opinions,” yes, but those are “opinions” presented along with “reasons,” “arguments,” and “evidence,” which combined together are called “literary/artistic criticism.”

“How is it good by any standard?” is a real question which (theoretically) someone who really liked the story could answer.

But complaining about people’s “ideologies” is just gibberish.

Sounds like ranting & complaining to me.

Oh & I do like the series for your information.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

^We know you like the series because you keep saying it over and over. Why would you think you’re giving us new information?

But since you seem to be unable to articulate one single reason of any kind as to why you like the series or what specifically you think is good about it, you apparently have nothing to contribute to the conversation except bleating.

4bbe1078a9d82bf519de9e5fc56dee60
joined Feb 18, 2018

For me, the reality is that Citrus had the most compelling characters of any yuri series but also the most incompetently delivered plot. That's painfully true if we compare to manhwas. But even if we compare to other popular yuri mangas...People may not like say Kodama's NTR because of their morality/sensibilities, but what they cannot say is that NTR didn't have a tight plot where everything was explained and made sense by the end.

In Citrus that's not the case! I mean what the hell, if Gramps was not an issue, THEN WHAT WAS THE ISSUE DAMNIT? xD Are we to understand that the true issue was this series was throwing cheap drama at us just to keep us reading and that was the only reason it ever needed? That was my conclusion, after all everything was rushed. And if Sabu is going to continue the series in some way, then why rush to the end? I think I know why: if the marriage drama was thrown in there only to boost sales, then she never had the intention to give it proper attention in the first place.

Mind you, I'm happy with the last 2 chapters because they have emotional appeal (the strong point of this series), but that doesn't mean I can't see how terrible the execution is.

last edited at Aug 18, 2018 8:47AM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

"At times when you can't sort out your feelings all you have to do is talk to the people around you."

Golly gee whiz jeepers, kids, if somebody had figured that out that basic element of human interaction about 30 chapters ago--oh, I don't know, maybe when the two of you were sleeping in the same fucking bed every night--things might have gone a little more smoothly, doncha think? Just maybe?

Actually, I think that the resolution of every previously apparently intractable plot conflict, personal misunderstanding, and cultural impediment in a single page of silent panels is the most exquisitely executed piece of authorial trolling I could possibly imagine.

Bravo, Saburouta-sensei. Just . . . bravo.

Blessings forever on Yuzu and Mei and all the forthcoming little YuzuMeilings.
(Udagawa-san having shown himself to be the most accommodating lesbian ally in history already).

4bbe1078a9d82bf519de9e5fc56dee60
joined Feb 18, 2018

"At times when you can't sort out your feelings all you have to do is talk to the people around you."

Golly gee whiz jeepers, kids, if somebody had figured that out that basic element of human interaction about 30 chapters ago--oh, I don't know, maybe when the two of you were sleeping in the same fucking bed every night--things might have gone a little more smoothly, doncha think? Just maybe?

Actually, I think that the resolution of every previously apparently intractable plot conflict, personal misunderstanding, and cultural impediment in a single page of silent panels is the most exquisitely executed piece of authorial trolling I could possibly imagine.

And the REAL trolling is that the advice isn't even true in the context they are in.

last edited at Aug 18, 2018 9:08AM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

"At times when you can't sort out your feelings all you have to do is talk to the people around you."

Golly gee whiz jeepers, kids, if somebody had figured that out that basic element of human interaction about 30 chapters ago--oh, I don't know, maybe when the two of you were sleeping in the same fucking bed every night--things might have gone a little more smoothly, doncha think? Just maybe?

Actually, I think that the resolution of every previously apparently intractable plot conflict, personal misunderstanding, and cultural impediment in a single page of silent panels is the most exquisitely executed piece of authorial trolling I could possibly imagine.

And the REAL trolling is that the advice isn't even true.

Quite right that it's not all you have to do--but it is a thing you can do. True fact.

4bbe1078a9d82bf519de9e5fc56dee60
joined Feb 18, 2018

"At times when you can't sort out your feelings all you have to do is talk to the people around you."

Golly gee whiz jeepers, kids, if somebody had figured that out that basic element of human interaction about 30 chapters ago--oh, I don't know, maybe when the two of you were sleeping in the same fucking bed every night--things might have gone a little more smoothly, doncha think? Just maybe?

Actually, I think that the resolution of every previously apparently intractable plot conflict, personal misunderstanding, and cultural impediment in a single page of silent panels is the most exquisitely executed piece of authorial trolling I could possibly imagine.

And the REAL trolling is that the advice isn't even true.

Quite right that it's not all you have to do--but it is a thing you can do. True fact.

Talking to each other is what they should have done for sure, and then selectively talk to the people around them to get a sense of whether they would be allies or not... Realistically, Mei telling Gramps she is in love with her stepsister straight up would just get her kicked out of the family. But hey, looks like he didn't even care anyway! So whatever...I just don't like this kind of umbrella advice being given in a manga, as though this was a normal shoujo story situation with a guy and a girl.

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joined Mar 27, 2016

And if Sabu is going to continue the series in some way, then why rush to the end?

I mean its pretty clear that the manga was canned and Saburota was given a set amount of chapters to wrap the series up. This isn't something that isn't an uncommon occurance and it sucks for stuff like this to happen, but there's little that can be done about it. Citrus probably just wasn't selling well anymore, or Yuri Hime felt it was time to let the series go.

Hana and Hina After School also got a rushed ending due to cancellation, Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san is another series that Yuri Hime canned even though Kuzushiro still wanted to do stuff with it. Its just how these things go.

4bbe1078a9d82bf519de9e5fc56dee60
joined Feb 18, 2018

And I must also say: my theory way back in February that Mei was just being insecure and simply needed Yuzu to step up and be firm about wanting to be with her turned out to be true. She needed a "grandiose demonstration" of love. Problems were all in her head.

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joined Feb 9, 2016

Yuzu does have a "sister fetish" o.O... like, a hard one... but anyway, I like that Mei wouldnt EVER play along.
Hmm I think most of us were a bit dramatic when we were 16.
I liked the ending, it is everything a gay person would wish for: everyone around you understanding, all the problems being in your head and a wedding full of love and support. Darn it xD sign me up for this kind of rushed happy endo!
p.s. I do hope they were older than 16 when they got married.18 at the very least, however, maybe getting married at 16 wasnt "that bad" for them considering Mei was gonna do it anyway with the older guy

last edited at Aug 18, 2018 9:26AM

joined Jul 22, 2014

Well finally, its completed with a yuri wedding end to boot!!
Need to hurry up and buy it to complete the collection.

last edited at Aug 18, 2018 9:27AM

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