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Elizabeth%20sadaharu
joined Jul 11, 2017

TG sucesfully ruin sungji character. She is now Taylor swift... not ju sungji. XD

Lol because they're "never ever ever getting back together"? XDDDD

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I don't have so much time.

Oh hey, we have something in common. XD

I'm still waiting for that chapter and page ;)
And I guess I'll need to wait for Nora to provide it, huh? If it exist in the story, of course. Because I really can't remember Sungji saying anything bad about the house.

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Vanbun

From what I can see, a lot of you guys still believe Seju still has a chance. God, this girl has so many faithful believers for her, LOOLLLL. I feel ashamed of myself, LOL

From my view, hmmm, what can I say, from Seju's tone, and how the story goes, she realizes that her love for Sumin is tiring and selfish, so she lets go, she lets go for Sumin to be happy. This somehow feels like a finality for her role.

This is not about SuminxSungji and how they solve their problem, really. Its about Seju and her reason to let go, sth all of us has been waiting since the beginning. Her reason to let go is better then any kind of reason I could ever think of and make her go to a new height but that's the problem, it could also be the end of her role, for good.

So for Seju to be back (and I excluded SuminxSungji in this, they're not related), she has to believe that what sumin has for her is love and all.

Tough one. Really tough one.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

From my view, hmmm, what can I say, from Seju's tone, and how the story goes, she realizes that her love for Sumin is tiring and selfish, so she lets go, she lets go for Sumin to be happy. This somehow feels like a finality for her role.

I think since the story is about healing Seju had to let go and move on and Sumin going back to her would've been a step back for both of them at the moment. They both are not who they used to be 10 years ago.

Them coming back together and start fresh (like really fresh, from friendship and all that) would make sense if the story was longer and the last arc was focused on them repairing their relationship sooner, not at the very last moment.

This is not about SuminxSungji and how they solve their problem, really. Its about Seju and her reason to let go, sth all of us has been waiting since the beginning. Her reason to let go is better then any kind of reason I could ever think of and make her go to a new height but that's the problem, it could also be the end of her role, for good.

It's also what I always wanted her to do.
I cross my fingers for Seju's spin off.

So for Seju to be back (and I excluded SuminxSungji in this, they're not related), she has to believe that what sumin has for her is love and all.

Which is not anymore IMO. Sumin had moved on. Too bad she got burned for doing it too. And to think about it, it's the second time she's punished for moving on. First she was physically scarred by Seju's brother. Now she's emotionally scarred by the person who claimed to love her.

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Elizabeth%20sadaharu
joined Jul 11, 2017

They both are not who they used to be 10 years ago.

Not necessarily a bad thing

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

They both are not who they used to be 10 years ago.

Not necessarily a bad thing

Which I agree with. But to be together they'd need to know each other once again, on good terms, without toxicity and anger from the past. 2 chapters are not enough to do so.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

I'll admit in current situation I'd take team pink fresh start over team blonde but it's still easier to make team blonde more tolerable than using a plothole to create team pink. There already are too many of those and they'll never get filled which is a shame.

Plotholes, what are they? Sumin is experiencing "waiting for someone to come back". Regardless of whom she is waiting for, she will end up thinking about Seju. Simun x Sungji makes no sense to me.

For the first time, I'm seeing you being so sure about a prediction, you're always so so about this

I wanna test my future telling ability before the manhwa ends. :'D

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I'll admit in current situation I'd take team pink fresh start over team blonde but it's still easier to make team blonde more tolerable than using a plothole to create team pink. There already are too many of those and they'll never get filled which is a shame.

Plotholes, what are they?

Examples I could write right away:
The assassin.
Baek Sr's plan.
Saehun's relationship with Seju's mom.

Sumin is experiencing "waiting for someone to come back". Regardless of whom she is waiting for, she will end up thinking about Seju. Simun x Sungji makes no sense to me.

She's not thinking about Seju anymore though. Sumin and Sungji are the logical pairing that was built for the entire story. This last drama is made for them to end together, even if we stopped seeing them as a healthy couple because of what Sungji did.

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

There are two things that I saw but dismissed so I dont talk about this, however, with the amount of people who still think Seju still has a chance, you'll find it interesting

  • Sumin didnt cry in the scene of brushing her teeth, she remember things but didnt cry. So why did she cry randomly at a public place for people to see? So, let's see how this leads on to that. The fridge is empty and she needs to go for grocery shopping, lol. Reminds you of what? A certain scene of an empty fridge and an exciting someone who went grocery shopping with her and bought thousands of random sale stuff, LOLLL.

  • The TV. She needs to pass time and that is her solution, but who suggested that in the first place for her to remember and did it?

But dont be too focused on this. Cause I dont, lollll.

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joined Feb 8, 2016

sia ue can you explain why SuminxSungji makes no sense to you? (genuinely curious)

at this point, it felt anti climactic to me reading this chapter for some reason.

joined Jun 6, 2016

From what I can see, a lot of you guys still believe Seju still has a chance. God, this girl has so many faithful believers for her, LOOLLLL. I feel ashamed of myself, LOL

For this, I choose losing over winning but dislike the outcome. I've said before I really doubt TG has "a ball" to end sumin with seju since it is unpopular choice that will get a lot of complaints. Or the editor will allow it. But if TG has done this far to develop seju's character... why she needs to stop now?

So for Seju to be back, she has to believe that what sumin has for her is love and all.

Tough one. Really tough one.

Seju doesn't need to comeback. Sumin can follow seju, since it's her turn to make a move. At the same time a way to proven sumin's intention

joined Jun 6, 2016

TG sucesfully ruin sungji character. She is now Taylor swift... not ju sungji. XD

Lol because they're "never ever ever getting back together"? XDDDD

I approve this to happen in next chapter. Lol

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Izz
Chapters' pages are not numbered.. but you are looking for ch55 flashback of ch27.. and ch74 flash back.
Then look at Sumin's house arrangement and compare it to Seju's two houses in the past.

yoonie
I also was thinking of this what you mentioned about the TV and grocery shopping.. but won't use it as a tool for discussion. The next 2 chapters shall unfold this soon enough. XD

joined Jul 31, 2017

I am sure it's going to be SungjixSumin. I mean, last chapter Sumin have already expressed her wishes. That being their last snow together and seju to not wait for her in the snow anymore. Instead, she asked sungji and promised to see the next snowfall together. It wasn't as clear as a goodbye but still.

And the recent chapter, it was a clear goodbye from Seju. The problem is solved on seju's end, her letting go of Sumin. Hence, there won't be any conflict since they both have said their goodbyes.

Furthermore, since seju left on her own will, Sumin will be free from any guilt or responsibility she may have for Seju. From previous chapters, Seju was very angered by Sumin's decision to cut all ties, and Sumin might have felt bad and guilty for that. But since Seju did it on her own, Sumin will be more confident to pursue her love for Sungji free of her baggage of Seju.

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joined Dec 9, 2014

From a character development point of view, if Sumin doesn't end up with Sungji, then that makes Sungji's character very secondary.
Seju has the best development in the story, and her character can stand on its own without the romance ending.
Sungji on the other hand loses a good deal of her role, since she was developed more around Sumin rather than her own self and journey.

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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Examples I could write right away:
The assassin.
Baek Sr's plan.

Not really necessary though.

Saehun's relationship with Seju's mom.

Necessary.

But why do you think if it's Sumin x Sungji, then they won't need to fill all these plotholes?

She's not thinking about Seju anymore though.

Why? Is it because Sungji left her or because Seju has been out of her sight?

Sumin and Sungji are the logical pairing that was built for the entire story.

Who said that?

This last drama is made for them to end together, even if we stopped seeing them as a healthy couple because of what Sungji did.

Unless Sungji is horny again, I don't know how they can make up.

sia ue can you explain why SuminxSungji makes no sense to you? (genuinely curious)

Why crying at home and waiting for Sungji? Is it too hard to find where Sungji is? She financially depends on her family, how far can she ran away from Sumin? It makes sense to me if the person Sumin is missing is Seju.

joined Aug 29, 2015

Sumin x Seju - for 10 years, Seju tried to have a second chance with Sumin but nothing works
Sumin x Sungji - Sungji left Sumin without any reason and cut all her communication with her.

conclusion - both of these relationship are irreparable lol but TeamBlonde is still going to be the endgame couple since it is so obvious that Sumin is chasing after Sungji and not Seju. well, unless TG go for a bittersweet ending where Sumin didn't end up with either of them.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Izz
Chapters' pages are not numbered.. but you are looking for ch55 flashback of ch27.. and ch74 flash back.
Then look at Sumin's house arrangement and compare it to Seju's two houses in the past.

It still didn't say anything about Sungji not liking the house. From what we've seen, she likes it.

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joined Dec 9, 2014

Last chapter will also include a TeamBlonde sex scene to wrap things up imo lol.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Examples I could write right away:
The assassin.
Baek Sr's plan.

Not really necessary though.

Necessary. Baek Sr's plan had something to do with either Seju or both Seju and Sumin.
Using the assassin as a simple plot device would've been stupid.

Saehun's relationship with Seju's mom.

Necessary.

But why do you think if it's Sumin x Sungji, then they won't need to fill all these plotholes?

I've never said they won't need to do so. I said there're already too many plotholes that won't be filled at the end so making ending with another huge plothole would be way too stupid to end the story even though I wouldn't mind Sumin ending up with Seju after Sungji treated her like a trash.

She's not thinking about Seju anymore though.

Why? Is it because Sungji left her or because Seju has been out of her sight?

She wasn't thinking about Seju for a while already and Seju was still living with her at that time.

Sumin and Sungji are the logical pairing that was built for the entire story.

Who said that?

This last drama is made for them to end together, even if we stopped seeing them as a healthy couple because of what Sungji did.

Unless Sungji is horny again, I don't know how they can make up.

I couldn't care less about Sungji being horny or not. She better fix her brain and face the consequences of what she did. Otherwise the ending won't be even tolerable.

joined Jun 6, 2016

Sumin and Sungji are the logical pairing that was built for the entire story.

Who said that?

Izz said that lol , jk I will stay away from this

sia ue can you explain why SuminxSungji makes no sense to you? (genuinely curious)

Why crying at home and waiting for Sungji? Is it too hard to find where Sungji is? She financially depends on her family, how far can she ran away from Sumin? It makes sense to me if the person Sumin is missing is Seju.

Make me remember past chapter how sumin ran over sungji hometown to have sex with her. Anyway sumin already know sungji house and whereabout. Better to visit sungji house/office than ruining other people wedding TBH.

It's like bring your problem to someone special day.

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Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Sumin x Seju - for 10 years, Seju tried to have a second chance with Sumin but nothing works

Trying to get that second chance by manipulations and bringing suffering to Sumin instead of support, comfort etc is not the way you want to get that second chance. She should've let go of her years ago and start over as a friend, not an ex with benefits.

Sumin x Sungji - Sungji left Sumin without any reason and cut all her communication with her.

Which from Sumin's POV must look like she was used and got hurt again for trying to move on. First a physical scarring, now emotional. She's such an unlucky person, heh.

conclusion - both of these relationship are irreparable lol but TeamBlonde is still going to be the endgame couple since it is so obvious that Sumin is chasing after Sungji and not Seju. well, unless TG go for a bittersweet ending where Sumin didn't end up with either of them.

Agree but I can't see Sumin not ending up alone if the spin offs are coming up and one of those is supposed to be about Sumin and Sungji. It'd also contradict what TG said about the story being about healing. It'd turn out to be "heal main character and destroy her again for the stupid drama".

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Make me remember past chapter how sumin ran over sungji hometown to have sex with her. Anyway sumin already know sungji house and whereabout. Better to visit sungji house/office than ruining other people wedding TBH.

Yes, exactly my point!!!

It's like bring your problem to someone special day.

And another YES!!!

last edited at Aug 29, 2017 9:19AM

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

yoonie
I also was thinking of this what you mentioned about the TV and grocery shopping.. but won't use it as a tool for discussion. The next 2 chapters shall unfold this soon enough. XD

The last time we came up with something on our own, its the house not being in Korea, I think we are right about that now so I guess this time, its not also delusional at all? Lol

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Which from Sumin's POV must look like she was used and got hurt again for trying to move on. First a physical scarring, now emotional. She's such an unlucky person, heh.

Talk about unlucky then Seju should win the number one spot, not Sumin, lolllll.

You really think too highly about Sumin and thinking she is the victim of everything, even now. That's not how it works, lol.

Even whatever misery she is having right now, she is not a sole victim, part of it is her fault, not say she deserves it but its easy to see it coming.

Maybe Sungji is the one who chose to leave in a most ungrateful way but Sumin is not the innocent one, lolll. She is the cause of it, the problem remains hers and hers alone.

So, this is what it is, maybe readers could blame Sungji for leaving this way but the fault remains to Sumin.

You cant go full force blaming on a girl who endures it all to be with this problematic girl and when she left, its solely her fault. Its not and Sumin is not that much of a person who deserves to be happy either.

She's not thinking about Seju anymore though. Sumin and Sungji are the logical pairing that was built for the entire story.

Tbh, if this story ends with suminxsungji, the plotholes get way more than sejuxsumin, lolllll, with just the way suminxsungji to be back together again, I can list hundreds of plotholes but well, I choose to overlook it.

So plotholes are not sth could be used as a reason for not being an ending couple.

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