hlama hehehe.. once more!
I commented on mpgpeg in page 363 and mentioned this fact about Sumin immediately taking the ring off. This area is open for interpretation.. there is no panel to prove whatever I think about it. If you wanna read a pure subjective opinion.. I could do that too. However, I would like to do a backward induction kinda of way to look at it, so instead of how Sumin took her rings off, we look on how she put them on in the first place. ch52, the rain scene.. when Sumin was drying Sungji's hair.. the periodic gap is a memory that Sumin had.. it's ch2, it's Seju's wet hair.

In ch50,
Sumin admitted to herself.. Sungji is too good for her.. the one who will be be there to hold her is Seju, the one she is in love with is Seju.
ch 51:
Sungji: "you gave me your heart"
Sumin: "did I really ?" in a bubble
Sumin: "will I be able to let you go" in a bubble.

with all the above ideas, she put the ring on Sungji's finger the very next day.
The ring symbolises promises & trust.. why was it so hard for Sumin to keep it on.. did she really mean these promises no matter how much she tried.. is she able to fulfil them?

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btw, the ring is given normally on the 100th day of dating between a couple.. it was a very effective tool in calculating the timeline in which helped me earlier to spot when Seju's birthday was exactly back in ch78 XD. Not only that, but also the actual period during which Sumin and Sungji dated.. 4 months and a half now. This by itself ,along side what happens during this period, is a justification to whatever mpgpeg thinks of the ending.

This by itself ,along side what happens during this period, is a justification to whatever mpgpeg thinks of the ending.

I believe we're thinking the same thing? I hope so, at least. I believe you hinted at it a while back, but I forgot when though.

It means so much to me to know that the ending was made even before the publication.

Yes, you guys were right. It was clear from the start, wasn't it? Given it was not changed.

The ring symbolises promises & trust.. why was it so hard for Sumin to keep it on.. did she really mean these promises no matter how much she tried.. is she able to fulfil them?

That makes sense.

page 363

Just read the Wall of Text. Phew, I guess long comment is the trend now.

mpgpeg and maybe several people as well mentioned loose end. I honestly do not see any loose end except for the triangle thingy. Most things should resolve themselves.

• supporting casts: they will go on living their lives.
• assassin: get a new job
• "family": once chairman dies and the fortune is distributed, there will not be any incentive in harassing Seju; hurting her may backfire. Likewise, Seju can cut all ties with them.

mpgpeg and maybe several people as well mentioned loose end. I honestly do not see any loose end except for the triangle thingy. Most things should resolve themselves.

The ending will speak for itself when it comes. If there are any discrepancies, then that will be a good time to talk about them. I do believe it is possible to wrap things up, including the chairman, assassin, and family issues. If not directly, but indirectly, and not by just writing them off. The assassin would fall into the indirect part. They should be addressed at some point, I'm hoping.

I get what you're saying though. For many stories, a lot is left hanging and people just disregard them.

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I also agree that TG came up with love story of SuminxSungji first them along the way they created the plot, Seju was born xD. The complete plot and ending were done after the trio were created, I think.

If the translation of the podcast is true about side stories for SejuxSumin and SuminxSungji, I positively think they dont introduce new character for Seju even after the story has ended, which means she continues being alone or sth else but for the love of God, dont kill her, LOLLL.

Still pretty surprised everytime people talked about how Seju is TG's soft spot =)))))). I mean, looking at her terrible fate, I thought their favorite should be either Sumin or Sungji, lol. But TG indeed wanted to create a perfect girl image for Seju, someone has it all, beauty, money, smart brain. She even has a model figure, the tallest among the three(1m72), basically a super perfect girl

As for the ending, TG has confirmed they already had the ending in their mind and judging from TG's style, they probably already gave us the hints of the ending, LOL. We are just too blinded to see it

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yoonie

Edit: to make SejuxSumin a couple in the end, not only Sungji needs realization but also Sumin needs realization, a big one, sth that I dont think she could realize with just a normal life event :), to let Sungji go physically and emotionally :). And its not an easy task, not saying its impossible, with all the events right now, there might be a way, lollll.

here you answered yourself.. and summarised everything I could've said. As from how events progressed in last 10 chapters.. nothing is impossible and we could never imagine it. Even though I am expecting an ending, the road to there will be always a surprise.

Tbh, nothing is impossible in wdtfs, so I wont eliminate any cases xDDDD. However, if they really come up with a SuminxSeju ending without any plot holes and satisfying based on what is happening, I really truly admire them xD. Not because Suminx Sungji is hard to break but because SejuxSumin is hard to come back as a couple xD.

Foxy lady

Nora, leaving the ring to Seju is the safest place to leave it. To someone who takes care of Sumin(chap1) and passed on the responsibility to Sungji(chap.14). Did Team Gaji showed that Seju has no intention of returning the ring? Contrary, she showed the earnest to return it.(chap 54,55)

I read it maybe 14 times just today.. or yesterday.

Sungji: it's not that I lost it, I left it somewhere by mistake. I'm sorry, I will definitely go get it.

(she wanted to go get it back.. why leave it on purpose "regardless if she trusts Seju to give it back")

Also, if Sungji left it intentionally, how could that mean "leave Ms. Seong, CEO-Nim" when in fact it signifies abandoning promises she made with Sumin!

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hlama

page 363
Just read the Wall of Text. Phew, I guess long comment is the trend now.

sorry about that.. I tend to take my sweet time writing long passages to explain a viewpoint. Otherwise, it would look unsupported and biased.

"family": once chairman dies and the fortune is distributed, there will not be any incentive in harassing Seju; hurting her may backfire. Likewise, Seju can cut all ties with them.

once the chairman dies, there is no one to protect Sumin or Seju. The chairman himself mentioned how he looked out for Sumin in ch58. No one can endanger their lives as long as he is alive. Whether Sumin dates Seju or not, this is irrelevant to the Baeks now.. remember, Sumin inherited a big chunk as well. If the chairman dies, both have to leave.

Food for thoughts:

• Even though Sumin initially declined in ch58, you see her almost discussing this topic with Seju in ch62. (she accepted but held it off? why?)
• why isn't Sumin motivated to find another job up till now?

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yoonie

indeed wanted to create a perfect girl image for Seju, someone has it all, beauty, money, smart brain. She even has a model figure, the tallest among the three(1m72), basically a super perfect girl.

Seju's perfection is very intentional to signify two important things:

1. To give you strong reasoning to why Sumin felt inadequate.. why she had the inferiority complex in the first place which participated their break up.
2. Seju's inability to move on is not because she can't find someone who loves her. But because she want and needs Sumin's love only.

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Sungji's big role is yet to come

if you think about WDTFS as a simple love triangle then that's a very simplistic way to look at it.. let's see why:

1. Seju & Sumin: take Sungji out of the "triangle", would they work out as a couple ?
2. Sungji & Sumin: take Seju out of the "triangle", would they succeed ?

Till now the story proved itself to not revolve around Sumin's choice of which girl she loves the most. Whomever Sumin chooses to be with, both relationships are doomed to fail.. the problems are from within each couple and not simply because of the third party's presence in the story. What we are looking at, is a healing process not a love triangle. Please, keep this in mind.
Sungji's role is not to be a mere girl that Sumin dates to forget her past by Sungji's kindness and love.. but Sungji's real role is to connect, heal and mend the two. Things will not end the way Seju wanted it to.. now it's different.

Food for thoughts:
Even though Sumin initially declined in ch58, you see her almost discussing this topic with Seju in ch62. (she accepted but held it off? why?)
why isn't Sumin motivated to find another job up till now?

Seju's perfection is very intentional to signify two important things:

Sungji's big role is yet to come

nods head There are several things to account for as this story ends.

Foxy lady

If leaving the ring momentarily to get a message across and protect my relationship, then I will do it.

Now, It finally made a complete sense to me. So leaving the ring and waiting for it to be returned is a final message of letting them be.
As usual, you always amuse me XD, Thank you.
you've been patient explaining this to me XD

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Till now the story proved itself to not revolve around Sumin's choice of which girl she loves the most. Whomever Sumin chooses to be with, both relationships are doomed to fail.. the problems are from within each couple and not simply because of the third party's presence in the story. What we are looking at, is a healing process not a love triangle. Please, keep this in mind.

Yes, its not a love triangle but I dont agree that SungjixSumin 's problem is not from a third party, aka Seju

SejuxSumin is definitely problems from within. Cant deny that. Not from a mere bar incident

SuminxSungji: Take away Seju and all the past Sumin has with her, I'm pretty sure SungjixSumin's love is just like any kind of love out there. Sungji is not Seju, she doesnt have a terrible family, not too smart, not rich, she wont cause any of inferior complex in Sumin. I believe this is why Seju was born when the author wrote the plot. Her existence is necessary for the current couple. She is the cause that makes Sumin close her soul and doesnt let anyone in, the one that makes Sumin not love and recceive love, that makes Sumin an "empty" shell. She is also the person who gives Sungji the idea of insecurity, giving Sungji doubts and all. Without her, SungjixSumin is a way better version of SejuxSumin in the past. We all know that, atm, SungjixSumin is the second verson of SejuxSumin in the past with all the problems within are exactly the same

So no, I dont agree that love triangle is not the base of this story. It is. The deepest, rooting problem is that love triangle. And from that root, we have all kinds of problems entangle with each other between 2 couples branching out, and from that, the healing begins for all three women who tangle in that love triangle trying to love and feel loved again.

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yoonie, you don't disagree with me, but you misunderstood me a little bit.

SuminxSungji: Take away Seju and all the past Sumin has with her, I'm pretty sure

I meant taking Seju out of the triangle not out of Sumin's life (with the past and everything) .. if you take Seju from Sumin's past.. you would never have Sungji and Sumin together in the first place XDDD The reason they are together is Seju's past with Sumin.

So no, I mean.. with all the baggage, take Seju out of the triangle.. will Sungji and Sumin last ?

So no, I mean.. with all the baggage, take Seju out of the triangle.. will Sungji and Sumin last ?

I asked the same question as well. Their relationship is only 4 and a half months long right now. It is cute at times, yes, but it has a lot to prove.

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^
up till the moment Sungji saw with her own eyes Sumin bottoming for Seju, Sumin was willing to remain caved in (btw, she is still a little lier). "ch23 same way as she treated Sangmi" or better yet, ch32,33.

oh, heeey !
was Sumin planning to hide the fact that she cheated on Sungji had the later didn't caught them XD

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was Sumin planning to hide the fact that she cheated on Sungji had the later didn't caught them XD

Hmmm... Good question. I'm sure the guilt will be driving her mad, not to say it is not doing so already. Chapter 84 shows that she still feels indebted to Sungji.

Side note: I wish this manhwa had a larger audience. Wouldn't it be great if it was animated or had a live-action version? With mangas, at least there is some hope for an anime, but not with manhwas.

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^Korean animated studio would need to do them. Just like Chinese studios are animating some of manhuas. One of the good studios is a studio MIR -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dKAOSIV4tg You can always write to them, hehe.

once the chairman dies, there is no one to protect Sumin or Seju. The chairman himself mentioned how he looked out for Sumin in ch58. No one can endanger their lives as long as he is alive. Whether Sumin dates Seju or not, this is irrelevant to the Baeks now.. remember, Sumin inherited a big chunk as well. If the chairman dies, both have to leave.

The way I reason this
1. Family is solely driven by money. Look at the eldest's attitude in the fam meeting.
2. There is monetary gain in killing off Seju and her mother. There is also risk in doing so.

• In her mother's case, the gain is more than risk because if chairman ends up marrying her, she may get 50-100% of the fortune/power with chairman dead or alive.
• In Seju's case, the gain is lower assuming power goes to the eldest (usually the case), and money is equally distributed among the children. The risk is very high when chairman is actively looking out for her. Risk is lower after chairman dies, but then gain is zero because distribution is already set.
• So, if Seju does not involve in family business, and I believe chairman has no intention in letting her get involve, and stop showing up in the main house, then what's the point of harassing her?

Disclaimer: just my rationale, rich assholes may operate differently.

• Even though Sumin initially declined in ch58, you see her almost discussing this topic with Seju in ch62. (she accepted but held it off? why?)

It was rude to decline a deadman's wish. Whether she will carry out his wish is another story. She assumed Seju knew and was curious when she would leave.

• why isn't Sumin motivated to find another job up till now?

She is motivated now? I thought she is very happily unemployed.

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Side note: I wish this manhwa had a larger audience. Wouldn't it be great if it was animated or had a live-action version? With mangas, at least there is some hope for an anime, but not with manhwas.

The chance is almost zero unfortunately, due to, as you stated, manhwa and genre. Movie adaptation usually sucks, I don't want one unless they can convince Taeyeon to play Sumin, Tiffany for Seju, Jessica for Sungi, Sooyoung for Nami :3. The chance of this happening is absolutely zero :'{

The chance is almost zero unfortunately, due to, as you stated, manhwa and genre. Movie adaptation usually sucks, I don't want one unless they can convince Taeyeon to play Sumin, Tiffany for Seju, Jessica for Sungi, Sooyoung for Nami :3. The chance of this happening is absolutely zero :'{

Yeah, I know. It is unfortunate. If anything, I could see this as an HBO show or an arthouse movie, like those that screen at film festivals. It needs a mature audience, for sure, who is open to homosexuality.

I have seen Girls Generation mentioned many times with WDTFS. Many screenshots of Taeyeon as Sumin. I could see it, but I am not as familiar with the group other than a few songs.

Izz

You can always write to them, hehe.

These studios are missing out. I would love to see how they would cut to a flashback,

Oh yeah, Avatar and many other animated shows here are outsourced to Korea. That was always interesting to me.

Izz

You can always write to them, hehe.

These studios are missing out. I would love to see how they would cut to a flashback,

Oh yeah, Avatar and many other animated shows here are outsourced to Korea. That was always interesting to me.

Some of the 1st parf of Legend of Korra Book 2 was made by Studio Pierrot Japan and you can tell the difference right away. They're not nearly as great as MIR and I have completely no idea why. Maybe Korean studios are more professional...

Examples:
https://33.media.tumblr.com/8eee99ceb3d928b024db45a82f9d4690/tumblr_mw05fpAEfh1rr8rixo1_500.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/80b382cdf67a4756dea6c32b487e92bd/tumblr_mv9mfjg6pG1qagd25o1_500.png

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Some of the 1st parf of Legend of Korra Book 2 was made by Studio Pierrot Japan and you can tell the difference right away. They're not nearly as great as MIR and I have completely no idea why. Maybe Korean studios are more professional...

Wow, what a difference. You're right, the studio can make or break a show. Yet Korean studios are nowhere near as known as Japanese ones. For obvious reasons, I guess.

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hlama, you are forgetting Seju's step mother, ch19. And none of us knows what's in the father's will to make him make a plan and hope for it to workout, so he could face Ahn Chahee after death. In fact, we don't know why her brothers sent the assassin.. and it's not what she said in ch71 (the assassin followed Seju from ch66)

mmhm, the document in Seju's hand ch71 got a nice zoom in views, but what is it!

Some of the 1st parf of Legend of Korra Book 2 was made by Studio Pierrot Japan and you can tell the difference right away. They're not nearly as great as MIR and I have completely no idea why. Maybe Korean studios are more professional...

Wow, what a difference. You're right, the studio can make or break a show. Yet Korean studios are nowhere near as known as Japanese ones. For obvious reason, I guess.

It's only because Japan is producting anime like crazy. Korean and Chinese studios are not (and Chinese are better than Japanese IMO too). What's also important, Korean studios are actually basing character movements on actual people. For example: fighting styles in Korra are real. Sifu Kisu and Sifu Manuel Rodriguez recorded sequences with and for Bryke (creators) who later on put them on the screen with the help of the studio. They were doing it ever since Korra's prequel - Avatar TL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iisrUSi7Kgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWEDvCiZbY

The effect in the show is amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi2Z6XeKVlc
No idea who did the sequence for Asami, she's clearly karate based.

TLDR I wouldn't mind if they'd pick WDTFS up bu the amount of sex this manhwa has is too huge for any studio to even consider such thing, I'm afraid. Manga with a lot of sex isn't animated so I can't see manhwa or manhua with this content ending up on the screen.