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joined Mar 5, 2017

Wash cloth? Bowl?

joined May 4, 2016

Anddddddddd Seju is guilty for another thing. Next time, should've blamed her for the missing of everything in wdtfs. Save a lot of time typing things. Seju is the master of every single evil thing in wdtfs, according to not-so-fond-of-Seju readers, end of story.

You might as well go straight to the point that she also took the scarf, pretending to run out of the house to burn it. I mean it. Even in that sick - to - the - point - of - not - talking - coherently state, she could do that move then a fully healthy her absolutely could do sth like acting like a great actress and running out of the house. Totally plausible.

btw, gotta say, in this forum, not only Seju fans have a great imagination to defend her but also Seju haters have quite a talent in this area to hate her more.

Seriously, if my brain had what fans from both sides shove into Seju's brain, I could've been a greatest leader of all time in the world, more than Fiden Castro, Che Guevara and Alexander The Great. For real

last edited at Jun 5, 2017 4:33AM

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Anddddddddd Seju is guilty for another thing. Next time, should've blamed her for the missing of everything in wdtfs.

I think Seju stole Nami too since she has been missing for no reason. xD

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joined Jun 3, 2017

@roamsl: hahaha, good one. You got me there. Well in my defense she did say towel though, buts thanks.

@Foxy

The incident I'm talking about happened when Sumin injured her finger while sharpening her weapons for Sungji after she visited her during her parents death anniversary. Not sure which chapter, but yeah around that time. After her plans failed and Sungji just ended up embracing her, Sungji noticed the cut when Sumin was asleep and put a bandaid on that finger which then caused problems between Sumin and Seju's....meal time since Sumin was very protective it. Sumin just ended up saying she was not on form and went to sleep. Seju ended up actually removing that bandage and placing another one instead, but Sumin put it back on and that's why it was messy when she met Sungji again. But thank god Sungji had plenty of backup. My point here is this, Seju has a....habit of taking things. So that is why her taking that ring is not surprising and that is why, Sumin is also weary to suspect her of the scarf as well. Wether she took it or not, well that's another story.

@Leeyoon

Oh dear. Oh dear indeed. I didn't put those things there, the author did. So either you can tell me where you think I'm wrong, or you can say nothing but remain in denial while having this funny little mental breakdown. I'm not attacking her, I know this cause I've done it enough times to know when I'm doing it. Here I'm just saying what I'm seeing and if you think I'm wrong, then please, do tell me. If you love Seju then that's good, but if you love the Seju-who-even-stole-the-ring then that's even better. Much much better. Cause that infact, is the real Seju. Not this innocent blameless victim you made up and are trying desperately to protect from even the very truth.

@sie ue
Let's call 911. Oops. I forgot their number.

@Foxy....again

Wait right there, let me go ask Sheldon

Conclusion:

SEJU STOLE THAT RING. PLEASE. JUST. LET. IT. SINK. IN.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Doctor

This was the argument I once had. Wether Sungji knows about the existence of the scars underneath the tattoo, and my argument was that yes she knew. She just doesn't know then story of it.

ah, yes.. sorry I got carried away. She might felt the uneven skin.. she only touched it once ch46. And my argument is, even if she knew, then the story she has is false and would be handed down by Nammi. BUT, in ch51, I got that she was referring to the scar indirectly .. but I can't prove this.

The Unsecret Crush
This point will make me feel like shooting myself in the foot if I went into details with it, it has to do with reading behind the lines.. connecting dots and understanding Sungji in a different way. And since I play it safe as you said, I will refrain from discussing it deeper.. I don't know if TG will return to it at all later. However, my retreat in this one isn't because the view is weak, it's rather very strong.. but its importance at this very current stage is vague and the obvious straight forward evidences are laking. I can't refer you to a single panel and pin point it.

Lord of the Ring

Let's go through the Panels together ch53, step by step:
we start from here: http://imgur.com/a/BkbWL
Sungji puts Seju in bed ➤ Seju notices the ring ➤ Doesn't comment and asks Sungji to leave ➤ Sungji went to get meds, Seju becomes even sicker ➤ Seju takes the meds from Sungji and tries one more time to kick Sungji out ➤ Seju can't even protest ➤ Sungji brings a bowel and takes off her own ring by her own self.

Sungji unbuttoning Seju's shirt and wipes her sweat (no ring) ➤ continues on preaching about self care.. while Seju is clearly sleeping: http://imgur.com/a/dIBcY , mumbling Sumin's name.

as seen clearly, the one who left the ring on here is Sungji.
Seju only saw it later in there in the evening of ch54 as she wakes up. BTW.. let's ask Sungji what happened?
http://imgur.com/a/MnkqD


I might be at this point delusional as some already call me. BUT there was no other way for me to see it other than Sungji forgetting her ring at Seju's. It by no means suggests that Seju took it evily. Did she use it later? Yes. But I differentiate between stealing and simply finding someon's else belongings in your house

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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Let's call 911. Oops. I forgot their number.

Let's go ask any 3 years old kid then.

joined Jun 6, 2016

I might be at this point delusional as some already call me. BUT there was no other way for me to see it other than Sungji forgetting her ring at Seju's. It by no means suggests that Seju took it evily. Did she use it later? Yes. But I differentiate between stealing and simply finding someon's else belongings in your house


This point ends here for me, and I could care less about being called whatever in other forums or if they think I'm "denying uncomfortable facts".. this is the Manhwa that appears on my computer screen and the one version I paid for. I'm unaware of the other versions that people read.

Wow... You have the patience that I don't have... How you try to explain the fact with every detail...

Me though, won't care and don't mind to debate something that I feel is already obvious, yet blinded by fool.

I appreciate your effort much

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joined Feb 4, 2017

^
my weakness is being asked nicely XD.. and Vanbun, Thank you for appreciating.

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joined Jun 3, 2017

Okay, it looks like everyone is having fun.

@Nora

Lol you missed my point. I can see what you're trying to tell me, but you didn't see what I'm try tell you. Look at the pannels....which I unfortunately don't know how to insert.

Go back to what I said. I said after Sungji put the bowl on the stand, we had a 3 pannels. Before even the 3 pannels just look at the position at which that bowl is placed, that it is so close to Seju's side and the way that pannel is drawn shows something is going to happen on that particular side. The 3 pannels, 1 the bowl on the stand, 2 Sumin ring on her finger, 3 the bowl on the stand. Then she excuses herself.

Next pannel she unbuttoned​ her(lol....how naughty). Next pannel Seju opens her eyes and she looks at Sumin. Next pannel Sungji is holdin Seju's hand (which might or might not be the hand holding the ring judging from their position and the fact that her fist is clenched). Wait okay...now I think I saw how she actually did it. When Sungji was unbuttoning her, the next pannel didn't show Seju opening her eyes, it showed Seju's eyes already opened so she was already looking at her when she was... occupied. The next pannel with Sungji​ holding Seju's hand is actually the hand that was close to the ring. She is clenching her fist cause that is infact, the hand that has the ring....damn, I've got a little Sherlock's in me. Okay carrying on.

The next pannel is Seju closing her eyes because the position Sungji was in was looking directly at her. Look at the speech bubbles, they tell a story on their own about her... unconscious state. Next pannel we have the bowl alone but we weren't shown wether or not the ring is still beside. Next pannel, we have a side view of Seju and Sungji. Look at Sungji's expression, that is the pannel she noticed the ring's absence. The next pannel she looked DIRECTLY at Seju who is pretending to be sleeping. The next pannel is Sungji from her backview as if she is turning away in disappointment telling her she should go to the hospital when she's sick. The next pannel she carries on with the conversation, and ends up telling her if there's​ anyone who can worry about her and hold her hand then she should call them. Then the next pannel is Sungji​ and we have Seju mumble. The next pannel the 'uncouncious' Seju responded with Sumin. Then the next pannel we have Sungji.

And Then we have that last one. The one where she said I wish the president would not be jeolous I mean hurting so much. There is everyone's big IT IS THERE. The ring is there, but as I've said before, those are just words she left behind, cause the pannel shows the towel in the bowl even though just previously it was on Seju's forehead while she was responding I mean mumbling. This just shows it is no longer on Seju's forehead so time has actually passed​ by. About her waking up and noticing it, it's just a cover up to reduce reader's suspicions...well done author. Well done.

I also think Sumin knew that Seju stole the ring because of Sungji's own uneasiness the next chapter when they were making out and Sungji looking uneasy asked Sumin where she was going, and Sumin looking puzzled​ then told her to turn off the lights. I guess she connected the dots in then end about what was causing Sungji's uneasiness that night. Smart girl.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Doctor

hahahaha.. I never thought of that XD

joined Mar 28, 2017

@Doctor.

Not Sherlock here, but my guess was Sungji removed the towel from Seju and put it back to the bowl because it was falling off from her forehead.
See the panel where Seju called out Sumin.

And Doctor, you are not supposed to leave the towel on the patient's forehead for
too long because as some point temperature will reach equilibrium, and the towel will trap heat instead of extracting heat from the patient.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

And Doctor, you are not supposed to leave the towel on the patient's forehead for
too long because as some point temperature will reach equilibrium, and the towel will trap heat instead of extracting heat from the patient.

lol

(I was genuinely laughing, not at you though xD)

last edited at Jun 5, 2017 9:16AM

joined May 4, 2016

And Doctor, you are not supposed to leave the towel on the patient's forehead for
too long because as some point temperature will reach equilibrium, and the towel will trap heat instead of extracting heat from the patient.

Omg, the pun. Not sure if this is intentional or unintentional but the pun in this sentence is awesome, lol.

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joined Jun 3, 2017

@hlama

Fufufufu. Today is so much fun.

Well, if it was falling I'm sure it would make more sense to just put it back properly.

And thanks for the tip, though I've never placed a wet towel on a patient's​ forehead. But hey, there's a first time for everything.

joined May 4, 2016

And thanks for the tip, though I've never placed a wet towel on a patient's​ forehead. But hey, there's a first time for everything.

Then you shouldnt call yourself doctor though, lol.

Oh, I love this pun, lol.

last edited at Jun 5, 2017 11:32AM

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joined Jun 3, 2017

@Leeyoon

Well, has a doctor ever placed a wet towel on your forehead?

last edited at Jun 5, 2017 11:47AM

joined May 4, 2016

@Leeyoon

Well, has doctor ever placed a wet towel on your forehead?

I dont know, you are the doctor, lol. Why do you ask me, Doctor?

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joined Jun 3, 2017

@leeyon

Cause you said I shouldn't be a doctor just because I said I've never placed a wet towel on a patient's forehead.

I asked cause I was curious if it's a thing other doctors do to their patients. Cause I've really never done that to mine.

joined May 4, 2016

@leeyon

Cause you said I shouldn't be a doctor just because I said I've never placed a wet towel on a patient's forehead.

Lol, not doing it isnt associated with not knowing it, lol. You seem to need someone to tip you how to do it so I said it, Doctor.

I asked cause I was curious if it's a thing other doctors do to their patients. Cause I've really never done that to mine.

You should go ask your fellow doctors. I'm sorry you ask the wrong person, Doc.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

finally the thread is a bit calm XD.. I just wanted to share some unconnected ideas about next chapter.. well, no body can expect anything really!

  1. Seju meets Sungji on her way -> but how can Sungji calm Seju down? even if she does, we want Sumin at some point to check her car and find the scarf by herself
  2. Seju goes and Sumin follows -> same argument as the above, solves nothing -> or maybe it would if Sumin took her sweet time first.
  3. Seju goes and Sumin doesn't follow -> it's cold outside, and we didn't see Seju taking her wallet, phone and she doesn't seem to have any of her cars parked near by.. where would she go!
  4. in fact, Seju took a jacket that has everything (phone, keys..etc) but we didn't see that -> she can go far.
  5. meeting with the assassin -> solves nothing really!
  6. meeting Saehyun on her way out XDDD -> why Not !!

ah.. it's all because May has 31 days we are waiting for an extra day.. it drives me insane that nothing I'm thinking of seems to be logical.

last edited at Jun 5, 2017 10:57PM

joined Feb 13, 2017

@Nora
Maybe Sumin will take the car to follow Seju and also find out the scarf.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Methetruth

this is what I thought, but only if she actually took long enough to follow Seju, then she will take the car.. if she followed her immediately, there will be no point in that.

I put also in my mind that finding the scarf isn't enough.. but also knowing the story of the ring.

last edited at Jun 5, 2017 11:36PM

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joined Jun 3, 2017

It felt more like a funny traffic stop fufufu

Well, it's not like Sumin accused her of stealing it, she just told her she had a reason(very good one) to doubt her. So even if she did found it in the car, I don't think Sumin should feel bad about it since she told her she had a reason to doubt her and didn't actually accuse her. But like I said, princess waaaaaaay overreacted....imo.

But I'm more interested in the assassin story though. Who knows, maybe the assassin took it. Maybe she's actually inside, with them, and Sumin is the one in danger(whatever danger means in a triangle yuri drama). Seriously though, maybe Sumin is the one left in 'danger' alone in that house. Maybe someone has not been following them, maybe someone has been with them and they stole the scarf for their... twisted amusement. I also noticed in the porno haystack that is 81 that Sungji's t-shirt that Sumin threw on the bag wasn't there when the phone rang. Since the assassin said she know her weakness, it would make sense for her to be there too...plus since she seems​ to have a talent for, inviting herself in. Lol...maybe I'm just taking this Sherlock thingy too far, but knowing this manhwa, maybe I'm not.

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joined Jun 3, 2017

And arguments about the ring....apparently.

joined Mar 5, 2017

Wow. Leave a few days and suddenly this place is full of unrelated arguments about who can read the details better.

I say intentionally and deliberately ignoring very obvious details. And forming/making up scenes which aren't obviously in the panels.

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