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Girl%20friends-av
joined Jul 13, 2015

After reading this a couple more times, I concluded that the Ayumu character is really badly written. He doesn't make sense.

He was conflicted, I think.
Part of him wanted to being a man again, but was more and more convinced that wasn't possible any more. And thus he became resigned to being a woman, and started to appreciate some things, like his new girls friends or female fashion. But resignation isn't acceptance, so he was still resisting his fate.
Inside that, you mix a little self-destructive behaviour which is usual when you're that conflicted. (especially when he tried to ruin everything with Mori)

Any ending (staying a woman or rebecomming a man) would be bitter-sweet for him. In both cases he would lose and gain some things.

In the contrary, I think its a more "realistic"/sensible ending compared to what you usually have with that kind of scenario, where the character totally embrace his/her new life or didn't change at all.

The ending can be frustrating in some ways, because the couple seems to be more unstable than before. But in the other hand, both characters changed quite a lot. That what is important in my eyes, and it's probably a good thing in the long run for them, both as individual and couple.

My main regret is that they didn't come out as a gay couple.

last edited at Aug 27, 2015 1:26PM

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Rosmontis
Nevrilicious Scans
joined Jun 5, 2015

This made me really angry, but I laughed hard at this. I have to say I totally didn't expect this to be actual explanation, so I applaud for those who guessed it. Well without that joke this manga would be totally not worth my time. After chapter 4 I feel like author had no idea what direction to take and ended up making that god stuff up. Mori started to treat Ayumu as a girl way too easy, but expect for that he was not that bad. Ayumu turned out to be pretty opened to stuff and just trying things out. He wasn't really gay, he was ok with trying going out with Mori. He actually liked girl cloths more, even though he spend like a week top as a girl and most of time he was unhappy/angry. Seriously, if anything, all this showed that Ayumu never really liked Mori that much and wouldn't mind living as a girl in a long go. Especially last chapter feels like retconning a lot of things that were established earlier.

American_virgin
joined May 25, 2014

It went from interesting (coping with a partner's sex change, but their gender didn't change), to bad (f-ing Ayumu's "maiden's heart" or whatever), to stupid (everything went back to normal without a good reason).

Brave_nehsafphnw
joined Dec 27, 2013

The story raises some good questions and thoughts, but fails to do anything with them. Too bad.

And that's the result, :< Such a shame. It ended up being a joke
And here I thought I'll be able to read a serious yaoi manga for once. qwq

last edited at Aug 31, 2015 3:18AM

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Meiling%20bun%20150px
joined Jun 28, 2012

The story raises some good questions and thoughts, but fails to do anything with them. Too bad.

And that's the result, :< Such a shame. It ended up being a joke
And here I thought I'll be able to read a serious yaoi manga for once. qwq

Go look up Mainichi Seitan, it's definitely worth reading. A lot of character development and a little humour on the side to lubricate the story. Seriously the best yaoi I've ever read. And the art doesn't tend to be excessive, which is also nice.

Brave_nehsafphnw
joined Dec 27, 2013

Go look up Mainichi Seitan, it's definitely worth reading. A lot of character development and a little humour on the side to lubricate the story. Seriously the best yaoi I've ever read. And the art doesn't tend to be excessive, which is also nice.

Alrighty then, something to look forward to when I get home. :>

Images
joined Sep 19, 2015

Huh, this seems pretty interesting. If this were a yuri couple at first, everyone would rip into it at first, but oh well.

I agree with you :3

Yya%20background
joined Feb 2, 2015

I don't know how to feel about this. Ayumu was really likeable at first but towards the end he seemed too bitter and grumpy for my tastes. The questions raised were interesting and for the most part I liked the sweeter aspects of their relationship, but I wish they had more of those moments, especially at the start when we could have seen how much they loved each other before the curse. Then again, I actually liked this way more at the start than at the end for some reason (probably because of Ayumu's darker side showing later on). I think this deserves the aaaaaaangst tag.

Woof
joined Feb 8, 2013

Nothing interesting. Such a shame... I didnt get neither one MC at all. They got me even more frustrated

4fe5eecd-bb71-4108-8d32-020d4e723c02
joined Oct 3, 2018

Not to shortcut the emotional arc of the narrative or whatever, but yo: call an endo and hook ya boy up with a T prescription, for goodness’ sake.

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