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I just remembered this, so Es0tric and mpgpeg.. you were thinking about Sumin being born in a rich family.. given what TG said "similar background".. let's check the facts:

  1. ch2, look at the area where Sumin lives.. also look at how Sumin thinks of Seju being "lucky"
  2. ch8, Sumin's reaction towards the expensive bottle of wine that Seju got her for her birthday.
  3. ch10, Sumin is not very familiar or accustomed to travelling, take another look at Sumin's room where she looks for the ring.. compare it to Seju's room when she was a high schooler.. than to her luxurious, panoramic view, double stories condo!
  4. ch44, the car that Seju gave to Sumin.. Sumin's father was hesitant to buy her a car in the first place..
  5. ch56, aside from Seju's luxurious room.. Sumin knows that her parents can't afford private elite university's tuitions like Seju's. (and the mere fact that she finds herself too ordinary)
  6. Sumin studied with Seju at the same university, but she never started her own business.. why? (remember, Sumin is an only child and she was also compensated with large sum of money for the abduction that Saehyun caused)
  7. ch59, Sumin tells Sungji that she didn't take the bus for a decade ago.. and remembered that the one who takes her to school was Seju XD.. do you think Seju ever took the bus in her life?

Bottom Line:
the similarity in background is NOT in wealth.. Seju's family is one of the Chaebols (not your average rich.. we are talking filthy rich!).. while Sumin's family are the kind who live in a normal apartment.

  • financial status similarity: excluded

I am suspecting deeper similarities in background.. a political level rather than economical.

joined Jun 23, 2017

Nora89

Good points... So they apparently met at a party right? What are you suspecting?

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joined Feb 4, 2017

mpgpeg
Sumin's life is in danger, not because of her relationship to Seju.. and Sumin's parents are either alive or "KILLED".. it wasn't an accident.
ask yourself.. what's Seju's father name? Sumin's mother ?
but you know Seju's mother full name.. why!.. in ch5, Seju said that he cried upon seeing Sumin's gift for him.
Saehyun knows about all these nasty details.. he actually cares about both, Sumin and Seju. Seju's father does seriously care about Sumin for some reason even though the pair broke up.. he also said it loud an clear in ch59. WHY!
Edit:
- why would a chairman who is so busy to be around his yonger daughter find the time and energy to send a couple "Sumin's parents" personally to Malibu !!!

what does the assassin know.. besides Seju's "special story"?
do we need to find answers to all these questions now? probably not.. but this is one of the reasons I find that the Baeks and the Sungs deserve their own Manhwa.

last edited at Jul 11, 2017 6:34AM

joined Jun 23, 2017

Nora89

... Will telling me the answer spoil a possible reveal? Or is this another aspect not necessary for the ending?

Just read your edit... Interesting. That would be a great spin-off.

Do you think you know their true relationship?

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joined Feb 4, 2017

all of the above.

Do you think you know their true relationship?

I have a guess.. but I couldn't be sure. Even the idea of sending both girls to the States as well (10 years ago and now) are related. Seju's father really didn't have time to argue or convince them.

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joined Jun 23, 2017

Nora89

I really want an interview from the writer once this is all done. Her writing process, storyboarding, etc.

And the art of deception... If the ending is Seju and Sumin. Imagine if they were the marketed couple at first. The fans may have a different favorite to be honest. What was the purpose of not doing so and introducing Seju last of the three?

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For me, building Sungji and Sumin was necessary. . This is how it should be, Sungji's vital move and importance is yet to be shown.
Explaning Sumin X Seju was never out of the picture.. the past always justifies the future throughout the present.. Sungji is the present that will help justify Sumin and Seju's ending.

So, marketing a couple was not the intention.. it is rather a fluid way of telling a story and justifying it
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I edeted the above post once more .

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joined Jun 23, 2017

So, marketing a couple was not the intention.. it is rather a fluid way of telling a story and justifying it

I understand that, but if they showed just one short sequence of Seju and Sumin before Sungji was introduced, I do think it would have made a difference in how some people perceived this manhwa at first. But the way they did it is more logical I guess.

If anyone knows Chihayafuru, another love triangle story, the disparity can be seen. In the anime, the one love interest introduced first is the more popular ship for viewers of the anime in the west. However, in the original manga, the other love interest was introduced first in a flashback and is the more popular ship in Japan. If polls were correct...

That's one of the reasons why I think it could have made a difference.

This is how it should be, Sungji's vital move and importance is yet to be shown.

Yes, we are waiting for what the fox says. :) This can be Sumin too, I think Seju has said enough.


Edit...

I know I keep talking about the "most popular ship" but really, what does it matter? If I were an author, a part of me would be sad if many fans were upset or disappointed about the ending.

I do think Team Gaji had been sufficiently justifying their ending and I do hope more readers are feeling the emotions intended as this manhwa ends. Maybe this manhwa is one of the rare ones where the most popular pairing changes.

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Nora89

Thanks for the clarification on Sumins background.

I was questioning that originally, i never thought she had as much privilege as Seju but then mpgpeg said they were from similar backgrounds so i thought i must have been wrong.

last edited at Jul 11, 2017 7:17AM

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Es0teric

It was mentioned in an extra, "For the Fans." I think it's free on Lezhin.

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mpgpeg

I must have read it at some point then. I'll probably re-read the whole thing again once it eventually finishes.

joined Jun 23, 2017

Es0teric

I intend to as well. The ending will bring a new light to each chapter.

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Vanbun

In real life there won't be seju's kind of body with slim figure and at least C/D cup, only possible if it's under the knife

one of my sisters has taken all the correct genes.. I'm so jealous XD.. she is 170.. C/Cup.. slim waist and a curve !!.. a mother of 2 kids.. her boobs are even getting bigger :D
meeeh ?, I press the like button on a cake picture, and I get a double chin next morning.. I diet, and my boobs are the first to go! sigh sigh

last edited at Jul 11, 2017 7:48AM

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Vanbun

In real life there won't be seju's kind of body with slim figure and at least C/D cup, only possible if it's under the knife

one of my sisters has taken all the correct genes.. I'm so jealous XD.. she is 170.. C/Cup.. slim waist and a curve !!.. a mother of 2 kids.. her boobs are even getting bigger :D
meeeh ?, I press the like button on a cake picture, and I get a double chin next morning.. I diet, and my boobs are the first to go! sigh sigh

Revised ... A maiden .

Since woman who has given birth tend have bigger boobs. Your cup size will get bigger /smaller naturally after breastfeeding/ giving birth. It can change from b to c or even d

But yeah.. Having 2 children and still get amazing body is a bliss.... Envy!!

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that could've been us.. but we like food and lazy sundays more XD

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joined Jul 11, 2017

Hello! I saw a discussion earlier regarding possibility of Sumin's parents being murdered...what makes you say that?

Also..lazy sundays are the best lol

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joined Mar 21, 2017

Lol "correct genes"

Don't be so hard on yourself Nora89

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Btw, since we're talking about looks, because Sungji has the western look, she has blonde hair but for a pure Korean and asian look like Seju, its pretty weird that she was born with pink hair @________@. So unreal, lollllll.

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

OT, I've never thought this, but for this comeback... Solar from mamamoo with her revealing clothes and glorious pink short hair minus her chubby cheek... Slightly has a "seju aura". What makes her similar perhaps her slim yet fatal body. It's thin as hell but... Not flat.

In real life there won't be seju's kind of body with slim figure and at least C/D cup, only possible if it's under the knife... So.. At least in real life I would think this kind of body proportion is decent

Just a shame that her looks doesnt remind me of Seju, she doesnt have that vibe, I think xDDDD.

But Taeyeon is indeed one awesome candidate for Sumin's character. So similar.

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

yoonie0104

hehe.. you should definitely do it.. I can only see you making out with hot female bartender ~

XDDDDD, I should stay away from lesbian bar then xDDDDD. Just in case I suddenly swing that way xDDDD

at least you started to admit it now, phew !

Love is love xDDDD. Hehehehe, but I'll just go with girls with pink hair, sexy face, calm, collected, witty, tall and super duper rich xDDDD.

HAH! dammit, yoonie.. you are taller than me then.. our baby perspective fireworks are all ruined now π_π !

So sad xDDDDD. But I wish I'm also as sexy as Seju, not just as tall as her, lolllll. I could flirt with whoever I want with that look xDDDDDD

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Orange

I will get back at you.. just give me maybe an 1 or so to work on something :(
Es0teric
life is unfair !! I got the best hair out of them.. but I tend to cut it short anyways.. I NEED THE GREAT BODY !
boobs.. boobs and lots of curves .. sigh
yoonie0104
it's not about realism.. but symbolism.. funny! you mentioned having something for silver haired ladies and pink heads .. well, I had the grey hair once and Aimy had it pink.. we could've had a threesome back then but you are restraining XD

So sad xDDDDD. But I wish I'm also as sexy as Seju, not just as tall as her, lolllll. I could flirt with whoever I want with that look xDDDDDD

hehehe.. the flirt she threw on Sungji in ch83

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

yoonie0104
it's not about realism.. but symbolism.. funny! you mentioned having something for silver haired ladies and pink heads .. well, I had the grey hair once and Aimy had it pink.. we could've had a threesome back then but you are restraining XD

Hehe, just like my favorite character in wdtfs, I only want monogamous relationship xDDDDD, maybe can not love just one person for 17 years like her but only one at a time xDDDDDDD.

oh, Amy once had pink hair? Now, I'm interested, not you but...her xDDDDDDD

So sad xDDDDD. But I wish I'm also as sexy as Seju, not just as tall as her, lolllll. I could flirt with whoever I want with that look xDDDDDD

hehehe.. the flirt she threw on Sungji in ch83

I wish I could see more of her playful flirty side. Seju could really be one heck of an expert when it comes to flirt xDDDDD. Also suits her image real well. Such a shame, her character is too loyal for just one person, so we cant see her flirting xDDDDDDD

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Her vibe isn't. Lmao... Seju isn't a yeba. But her short pink hair is what I think in real life for seju. And what not, her proportion (but obviously taller).
About the face... Maybe only her eyes and eyebrow.

Hmmm, the only thing I find it the same is the pink hair xD. Other than that, its hard to imagine her as Seju xD

But recently Moonbyul and Solar got compared to Seju and Sumin alot, especially when Moonbyul has black hair xD.

What kind of face that you think resemble sungji in real life?

Hmmm, I dont think Somi is a good choice xDDDD. Somi's face is kind childish (which is totally understandable, she is only just 16 xD). Tbh, to be Sungji doesnt need to be too western-faced, maybe, one of the girls in Black Pink girl group, I forgot her name, the pretty face xDDDD, if she dyed her har blonde, she could be xDDDD

And is nami also weird since she has blue hair?

Ohhhh, I totally forgot side characters xDDDDDD. But maybe the author indeed chooses hair color with hidden meaning xDDDD.

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

That is just the nature of a love triangle. The person in the middle is usually not named. Like in "Twilight" (yes, I am referencing that... only watched the first movie), it was either Team Edward or Team Jacob, not Team Bella.

Since you talked about this, I cant believe a sappy love triangle like twilight could be that famous while with wdtfs, its even hard for us to see the anime version of it. Never in my life could I imagine how that movie got that famous, lolllll.
But btw, havent watch all series but I like team Jacob more, lolllll, thanks to watching cuts on TV, lollllll. Pretty sure I have a thing for dead-end ships, lollll

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Orange

Hello! I saw a discussion earlier regarding possibility of Sumin's parents being murdered...what makes you say that?

they are either alive somewhere or murdured.. the reason I say that is because I connect multiple cues together, let me list a few:

  1. we agreed that the similarities in background between Seju and Sumin is in fact not financial.. so maybe the Sungs and the Baeks are not connected.. but Ahn (Seju's mother) and the Sung's are connected somehow.
  2. Seju and Sumin were originally planned to go to the U.S shortly before Sumin's parents were sent by the CHAIRMAN personally to the states. Why would a busy man like him find the time and energy to personally send a couple by himself to a vecation to Malibu.. in which they coincidently die!
  3. Do we know the circumestances of their death?.. actually their were no bodies.. just aches!
  4. AGAIN, the president found the time to personally "return" their aches from the States!
  5. Saehyun is the one resposnible of sending the girls to the states.. why? before (ch27) and now (ch44).. this plan seems to be so important that the father sees it as the only way he could face Ahn Chahee after death.
  6. the father asks Seju to personally pick Saehyun up from the airport and drive him to the hospital personally without letting the others know about it. (I guess that Saehyun was in the States)
  7. the assasin knows some information.. she knows that Sumin and Seju were not dating or anything the time she started following Seju ch66.. and you know that what Seju said in ch71 is not the trigger to the assualt in ch76.. Still, Sumin's live is endangered!
  8. the father knows for sure the nature of Sumin and Seju's relationship.. but still, he insisted on sending them together to the States.. he even mentioned taking care of Sumin -even if she doesn't realise that yet. ch59. why does the father care about her so much and insists on sending her to the states.. what kind of care was that.. and why!

Bottom Line
The way I see it, Seju's father for some reason planned to send the parents to the States upon the girls graduation, fake Sumin's parents death then later reunite the Sungs together by sending the girls to the States. The plan fell apart by the breakup.. but then the father insisted on working it out this time before he dies in ch44.

either her parents were killed or "faked their death" for political reasons.

Also..lazy sundays are the best lol

they are.. but not untill summer is the here and you still have the winter body XD

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