Girls, do you not wear skirt at all?

I don't .. I'm a fem tho

My school uniform alone has already made me wear skirt for 12 years. :D

I had no uniform at school and the last time I was wearing a dress it was... hmm... when I was 8 or 9 and just had to wear it during my 1st holy communion.

The same for me. I've never wore a skirt before, tbh, only dresses but that was years ago xD.

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and yoonie0104 I found three more times where Sumin wore a skirt XD
ch20 as she has lunch with Sungji, ch 48 (office sex) & ch64 (as Sungji erases the pics from her phone)
so you got 9 times

Well, that's alot for a not-so-feminist character xD. I probably need to pay more attention when I read chapters since I only read them 1 or 2 times xD. So surprised to see Sumin with a skirt =)))))))))))))

Sungji being demanding... not likely but.. possible
How sumin react of sulking girlfriend.

Yeah, I also expect this, too, being mad and sulking. I do hope she has those. How unreal could it be if your girlfriend's ex keeps getting in between you and your girlfriend's normal activities like dates and... needs but you're totally fine with it

However, judging from Sungji's perfect and angel-like characteristic, she might be ok with it. She was the one who agreed with Seju staying at Sumin's house after all

yoonie0104 I could not stop being curious about what you have noticed from this chapter ! XD
.........
However, there is a possibility that Sumin in fact is not very comfortable with the whole thing tho .
Could it be the jagi thing or the power dynamics.. as every time Sungji does something dominant, Gaji puts a weird expression of Sumin.

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The thread is so quiet lately XD, no surprise though since the new chap is so unnecessary. This thread isnt like any other threads who squeal over cute scenes or sex scenes XD, all of you go for serious discussion and analysis xD, but that's why I like this thread more, I dont have to see all useless comments like "oh, they're so cute"

Hope that new chap would lead us to actively comment again XD, and debate XD. Debate in here is very amusing. All of you give very good point from your pov. It's fun XD.

and yoonie0104 I found three more times where Sumin wore a skirt XD
ch20 as she has lunch with Sungji, ch 48 (office sex) & ch64 (as Sungji erases the pics from her phone)
so you got 9 times

Well, that's alot for a not-so-feminist character xD.

Nami wears skrits too. I don't think wearing a skirt has anything to do with their personal preferences. It is because of the society pressure that influences their behaviors.

leeyoon0510
Whenever Seju appears in any chapter, the whole thread discusses controversial ideas and it becomes a very heated thread.. she would say and do the most controversial things and it will only get clearer with time.
I wonder how can someone view her as a secondary character !!! Blows my mind
...

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Nora89
Sungji: can love exist when you expect nothing in return ?

Ah.. I remember read this sentence and thought it's a way TG put a hint for the ending....

Maybe... When it's finally end... And you reread the story... You will notice a lot of new things

By the year... 89 are you born that year?

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Whenever Seju appears in any chapter, the whole thread discusses controversial ideas and it becomes a very heated thread.. she would say and do the most controversial things and it will only get clearer with time.
I wonder how can someone view her as a secondary character !!! Blows my mind
...

People here tend to discuss a lot about things which happened around Seju more than any other characters. The discussion here lacks "Sumin x Sungji is love, Sumin x Sungji is life. Kyaaaaa xD" kind of comments. :'D

yoonie0104 I could not stop being curious about what you have noticed from this chapter ! XD
.........
However, there is a possibility that Sumin in fact is not very comfortable with the whole thing tho .
Could it be the jagi thing or the power dynamics.. as every time Sungji does something dominant, Gaji puts a weird expression of Sumin.

Haha, let's just wait, shall we?
The thing is, to me, if I want to confirm it, we should have another....sex scene, which I really really really dont like, hahahahahaha, so I just skip the thought and dont think much about it xDDDDD
But well, one thing I can say though, cause it's pretty clear now, Sungji with sex nowadays is very different from Sungji with sex before the cheating :)

Btw, Is there anything weird like Sumin's face in this chap for the 69 and 70?

Whenever Seju appears in any chapter, the whole thread discusses controversial ideas and it becomes a very heated thread.. she would say and do the most controversial things and it will only get clearer with time.
I wonder how can someone view her as a secondary character !!! Blows my mind
...

People here tend to discuss a lot about things which happened around Seju more than any other characters. The discussion here lacks "Sumin x Sungji is love, Sumin x Sungji is life. Kyaaaaa xD" kind of comments. :'D

Then lets talk about sungji more...

If there is a real life action of wdtfs,

Of course sumin would be Korean... But how about sungji?

Does sungji actually a foreigner? Look at her brother too...

and yoonie0104 I found three more times where Sumin wore a skirt XD
ch20 as she has lunch with Sungji, ch 48 (office sex) & ch64 (as Sungji erases the pics from her phone)
so you got 9 times

Well, that's alot for a not-so-feminist character xD.

Nami wears skrits too. I don't think wearing a skirt has anything to do with their personal preferences. It is because of the society pressure that influences their behaviors.

Uhm, I guess so, Korea is very sensitive about this, but since Sungji once gave Sumin a tie, a real thin tie for men and Sungji didnt feel afraid of offending her boss, its sth which broke the normal society behavior or should I say it indicates the story wont follow the society behaviors and creates their own world where the characters live and behave according to their preferences but well, this is just sth too trivial anyway =))))

Whenever Seju appears in any chapter, the whole thread discusses controversial ideas and it becomes a very heated thread.. she would say and do the most controversial things and it will only get clearer with time.
I wonder how can someone view her as a secondary character !!! Blows my mind
...

People here tend to discuss a lot about things which happened around Seju more than any other characters. The discussion here lacks "Sumin x Sungji is love, Sumin x Sungji is life. Kyaaaaa xD" kind of comments. :'D

Well, it's kinda unnecessary to say how cute they are, right? They're indeed...cute =))))))

Like this chap, what else can I talk about. If I'm about to go deep to this couple, I would engage into a super serious debate where I feel like I'm their hater :(

Vanbun

Ah.. I remember read this sentence and thought it's a way TG put a hint for the ending

well, that line made me realise that Sungji was already evaluating their relationship.. she knew that Sumin was always ready to leave. not only what she said after the cheating (you were always ready to leave me but it was not like that for me ) but also if you read closely in ch51, Sungji ran down the stairs and hurt herself,
Sumin asked her: did you think that I would go somewhere after calling you ?
Sungji: yes
Sumin: ...
The more I dig in their scenes the more odd they appear to me.. you clearly see a pushy Sungji and hesitant Sumin.. and that Sumin comply to most demands and asks for nothing really.. not even initiating sex after they started dating.
some would tell me, ah look at Sumin doing a childish activity and being happy at the amusement park, would you please look at her face ? in the whole chapter !!
I believe in what Seju said in ch80: "it doesn't suit you"
Sumin is doing stuff that really doesn't suit her.. just to make Sungji happy.
does Sumin know that ?
yes of course, let's go to ch21, inside the Vanquish, as Sumin recalls what happened earlier, she says: it doesn't suit me!
did she mean the car ? NO, I believe she meant the whole situation
again let's go to ch50, the dream sequence, she sees the redhead holding Sungji's face and saying to Sumin: she is too good for the likes of you.

By the year... 89 are you born that year?

yes, and in November too :P
...
yoonie0104

Btw, Is there anything weird like Sumin's face in this chap for the 69 and 70?

well, YEAH !
in ch69, Sungji pushes Sumin to the wall and acts in a daring way, she even rubbed Sumin's ear before Sumin flinches, turns Sungji to the wall and even steps on her foot (a movement to demonstrate power or dominance- control)
what that shows me: Sumin never ever felt comfortable with any dominant move that Sungji may do.
l discussed before that Sumin was in pain and unwilling to be topped.. but hey! she is not a position to compromise, right ?
let's look earlier to ch46, Sumin prevented Sungji from touching her ass without permission!!!
let's look again at this chapter.. and pay attention to every dominant move that Sungji would do and how Gaji would show a panel of Sumin's weird expression.
..
and yes, you are right! Sungji is not the same before and after the cheating happened, but could it be that she is comparing herself to Seju.. a dominant Sungji started only after she saw Seju on top on Sumin..
I do not know where this will lead us..
but I know that both of them are out of their comfort zone even during their intimate times. and I believe it was shown for a purpose.

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and yoonie0104 I found three more times where Sumin wore a skirt XD
ch20 as she has lunch with Sungji, ch 48 (office sex) & ch64 (as Sungji erases the pics from her phone)
so you got 9 times

Well, that's alot for a not-so-feminist character xD.

Nami wears skrits too. I don't think wearing a skirt has anything to do with their personal preferences. It is because of the society pressure that influences their behaviors.

Uhm, I guess so, Korea is very sensitive about this, but since Sungji once gave Sumin a tie, a real thin tie for men and Sungji didnt feel afraid of offending her boss, its sth which broke the normal society behavior or should I say it indicates the story wont follow the society behaviors and creates their own world where the characters live and behave according to their preferences but well, this is just sth too trivial anyway =))))

Speaking of which, why is there no reaction from Seju's father, Sungji's family, and Sungji's friends when they know that their daughter/sister/friend is gay. I means are gay people this accepted in Korea?

sia ue

well, it was a scandalous thing to Nammi's career.
and caused problems to Seju's reputation as their blind-date guy mentions it as a reason for why Seju might has lost the chairman favour

also her family members reaction to Seju on the phone in ch49 as the news about her and Nammi went online.

Sumin also was hesitant about letting Sungji comes out to her friends, she assumed they wouldn't understand..

also the Lawyer was paranoid, she did not tell Sumin about her true position.

I believe that they drop some hints here and there, but not really concerned about discussing how to deal with these issues let alone sexual orientation discovery <- thank god they spared us these things !

but not really concerned about discussing how to deal with these issues

Adding this kind of issues would make the story more realistic imo.

but not really concerned about discussing how to deal with these issues

Adding this kind of issues would make the story more realistic imo.

Not really, just more repetitive.. I've seen a youtuber talking about that issue in Korea, and she said: people don't care! but it should not be too PDA.

but not really concerned about discussing how to deal with these issues

Adding this kind of issues would make the story more realistic imo.

Not really, just more repetitive.. I've seen a youtuber talking about that issue in Korea, and she said: people don't care! but it should not be too PDA.

Noone care for sure. But things can't be like that when it comes to their family members.

Nora
Your post was too long on mobile, I'm lazy to quote it so I'll talk to you like this xD

in ch69, Sungji pushes Sumin to the wall and acts in a daring way, she even rubbed Sumin's ear before Sumin flinches, turns Sungji to the wall and even steps on her foot (a movement to demonstrate power or dominance- control)

Honestly cant picture their face in that situation xD, but well, my fault for not willingly read that chap xD. 69x70 give me a bad impression of how far the author could go for fan-service and I hate it, I've skipped most of sex scenes in wdtfs and when I have to go to two tortures of whole useless chap about it, it were really annoying =)))))))

and yes, you are right! Sungji is not the same before and after the cheating happened, but could it be that she is comparing herself to Seju.. a dominant Sungji started only after she saw Seju on top on Sumin..

I dont know about 69x70 but to me, this chap doesnt show a dominant Sungji though xD. It's more like a very horny Sungji, to be exact xD. And I dont think it is because she's comparing herself with Seju :). The whole time she enjoys herself very very much, she even thrushed her hips violently to get more contacts with Sumin xD. If she's about to compare herself with Seju, she should've more active in pleasing Sumin xD. She's only the receiving end of this chap and she's enjoying alot xD but well, it might also be because their steamy session got cut off rudely by Seju so there is no chance for her to be the one who pleases Sumin xD

Oh well, since I've talked this much, might as well go all out about Sungji this chap =))))

When I said different compare to before the cheating, it was because of this: you remember every scene, right Nora? Then you should remember the first time when they have sex :), Sungji wanted to see Sumin's face when she went down...somewhere :))))))), she wanted to see her face all the time to feel secure, safe, especially loved. It leaves me quite a big impression, that's why I remember, cause back then, to me, it's one of the things showing differences between Sungji and Seju. And what about this chap? She said "kiss me" but when Sumin goes for her lips, she said...not here, down there =)))))))). The difference is quite clear, tbh xD.

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but not really concerned about discussing how to deal with these issues

Adding this kind of issues would make the story more realistic imo.

That should make wdtfs 100 and more chaps if dragging family reactions into this and I honestly dont think I am that patience with good old drama over characters' preferences xD

and yoonie0104 I found three more times where Sumin wore a skirt XD
ch20 as she has lunch with Sungji, ch 48 (office sex) & ch64 (as Sungji erases the pics from her phone)
so you got 9 times

Well, that's alot for a not-so-feminist character xD.

Nami wears skrits too. I don't think wearing a skirt has anything to do with their personal preferences. It is because of the society pressure that influences their behaviors.

Uhm, I guess so, Korea is very sensitive about this, but since Sungji once gave Sumin a tie, a real thin tie for men and Sungji didnt feel afraid of offending her boss, its sth which broke the normal society behavior or should I say it indicates the story wont follow the society behaviors and creates their own world where the characters live and behave according to their preferences but well, this is just sth too trivial anyway =))))

Speaking of which, why is there no reaction from Seju's father, Sungji's family, and Sungji's friends when they know that their daughter/sister/friend is gay. I means are gay people this accepted in Korea?

As far as I know, nope, they're not accepted in Korea but in wdtfs's world, I believe they've loosen a lot about this matter, just look at how Sungji bought Sumin a tie or there is gossip about SejuxSumin among employees, or entertainment news about lesbians xD. in real life in korea, even news about gay celebs is not gonna be published, cause it would cause a big chaos, they will do anything to bury it, use money or power, either way to shut those reporters up. cause they dont want troubles xD

yoonie0104

I dont know about 69x70 but to me, this chap doesnt show a dominant Sungji though xD. It's more like a very horny Sungji, to be exact xD. And I dont think it is because she's comparing herself with Seju :).

not very clear in this chapter but surely in the in ch69 and 70. the comparison and the dominance issues

but the dominance started as Sungji asks Sumin clearly to do things.. pushing Sumin's face as well at the beginning and how Sumin reacted to it.
secondly, Sumin is the type who either doesn't look at the person's eyes during sex or if she does, the light will be very low- or off.
This scene was different.

Then you should remember the first time when they have sex :), Sungji wanted to see Sumin's face when she went down

that was the case as well in ch69.. she wanted Sumin to face her.. not only that, but to look clearly at even her intimate parts (pervert- romantic much hehehe)
...
the whole scene in this chapter was absolutely weird and out of place..even the "I love you that Sungji said.. was the weirdest thing ever.."

does anyone from those who like her so much felt that it was a sensual thing ?? did it feel normal to them ??

I personally felt uncomfortable looking at it. trust me, it is hard to make me uncomfortable.
...
in ch69 tho, as Sumin held Sungji's head, and said "I love you".. Sungji teared.. it was very sensual and looked very very real and sincere. ( I personally loved that panel). not at all comparable to Sungji's "I love you" that she finally said!

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well, YEAH !
in ch69, Sungji pushes Sumin to the wall and acts in a daring way, she even rubbed Sumin's ear before Sumin flinches, turns Sungji to the wall and even steps on her foot (a movement to demonstrate power or dominance- control)
what that shows me: Sumin never ever felt comfortable with any dominant move that Sungji may do.
l discussed before that Sumin was in pain and unwilling to be topped.. but hey! she is not a position to compromise, right ?
let's look earlier to ch46, Sumin prevented Sungji from touching her ass without permission!!!
let's look again at this chapter.. and pay attention to every dominant move that Sungji would do and how Gaji would show a panel of Sumin's weird expression.
..
and yes, you are right! Sungji is not the same before and after the cheating happened, but could it be that she is comparing herself to Seju.. a dominant Sungji started only after she saw Seju on top on Sumin..
I do not know where this will lead us..
but I know that both of them are out of their comfort zone even during their intimate times. and I believe it was shown for a purpose.

I have noticed one thing in the latest chapter. First panel, Sungji put her hand underneath sumin's blouse just about over her left breast/chest and sumin had this shocked/surprised face. If she was, then how come? They've been sleeping together a lot already and haven't gotten used to it? Lol

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