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Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

I wish it was more obvious why Ran was angry...

But, \there was no way she was reading/enjoying the book. She 1) hit the cockroach with the thing and 2) proceeded to decimate it and all its guts with said book. Regardless of how anyone views cockroaches, you don't get guts all over something you love.

Like, how's she suppose to finish reading it now? It's not like guts come off of paper cleanly...

Drunkies can get pretty obnoxious you know, speaking from experience, so she decided to not give her the time of day...well night

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

I'm not sure Keiko is drunk. Probably just excited to please Ran with the sushi.

Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

Well, those little bubbles were my indicator, could be wrong I guess

lol, the slight blush when keiko runs face on rans bossom

Afueee
joined Apr 5, 2013

I'm not sure Keiko is drunk. Probably just excited to please Ran with the sushi.

Dunno, between the blushed cheeks and the bubbles it give me the strong impression that Keiko is drunk.
Sure, she's missing the tie in the head as an headband but still...

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joined Dec 15, 2013

Oh that is actually rather illuminating for me in that i get the meaning of "Ran-sama" in that context better than "Miss Ran". The former accentuates Keiko's fangirl mode, haha.

Same for "Ran-chaaan" - it now gives me the sense that Keiko was being clingy/attention-seeking, rather than a "heeeey baby" vibe.

"Sama" is the more formal and politer version of "san", and it is used to address a person with a higher status and when you need to be very polite. "San" is similar to "Mr, Mrs,and Ms" in English and is often translated to that, but there's no similar way to address "sama" in english. Translating honorifics is pretty difficult since it is not the same in every language, what translators can do is to find the one with the closest meaning to the language they are translating it to, or sometimes not translate it at all if they can't find anything close to its meaning. That is why most of the times it does not really deliver the meaning, nuance or feeling of a particular word that well (if my sentence makes any sense). So, you're not wrong if you get the meaning "Ran-sama" in that context better than "Miss-Ran".Sorry for the long post. Do correct me if I'm wrong >.<...

Well, what i actually meant was, I would have understood the context better if it was left as "Ran-sama" instead of translating it to English. It's precisely for the reasons you mentioned above - that there isn't a really good way to translate the meaning of "-sama" to English. Having read/watched lots of manga and anime, i would have gotten "Ran-sama" immediately, though i do also understand that the translator(s) might have been trying to cater to a wider audience that might not be that familiar with the honorifics and what they mean in certain contexts.

Ai,yo
joined Dec 24, 2014

The chapter starts:

Ran-chaaan!

The chapter ends:

Ran-sama~

Can't not like how it escalated.
(Holy loli, now I've discovered some useful shit. So that's how you make fonts bigger.)

Oh and how unusual is it to see them reverse their boke - tsukkomi roles. While Ran is usually your everyday ENFP being like a grown version of Toshinou Kyouko, to see her on a serious/focused side is a breath of fresh air. And to think of it ENFPs really are clever folks, often disguising their intelligence by the outer goofiness.
And honestly, that's some unexpected side of senpai. That is, I'd never thought she's the one to be scared of bugs and the likes of them. I mean, it's generally strange how people have a problem with roaches, I personally don't give a single shit about this creature, even when it's traveling across my own desk.

And Cake,

not being on meganekko team

Fuzakenna, omae~

last edited at Jun 7, 2015 5:31PM

Roomie
joined Mar 9, 2014

And honestly, that's some unexpected side of senpai. That is, I'd never thought she's the one to be scared of bugs and the likes of them. I mean, it's generally strange how people have a problem with roaches, I personally don't give a single shit about this creature, even when it's traveling across my own desk.

I personally think it was to be expected. When you think about it, Ran is the rational one of the pair while Keiko is like often overwhelmed by her fears

HypocriticalLiar
Capture
joined Feb 23, 2015

I may be wrong, but to me seems that she grabbed another thing to bash the roach with. Seems to be a magazine or paper. Bigger than the book and with a white cover instead of a darker one.

Oh crap, you're right...it does look completely different. -altho I'm still hoping it was the same book-

Plus, there didn't seem to be any roll-able thing in the vicinity of Ran at the time...the other books were hard cover, and she was standing...where in the world did she get the reflexes to instinctively grab something else

last edited at Jun 7, 2015 7:15PM

Afueee
joined Apr 5, 2013

I may be wrong, but to me seems that she grabbed another thing to bash the roach with. Seems to be a magazine or paper. Bigger than the book and with a white cover instead of a darker one.

Oh crap, you're right...it does look completely different. -altho I'm still hoping it was the same book-

Plus, there didn't seem to be any roll-able thing in the vicinity of Ran at the time...the other books were hard cover, and she was standing...where in the world did she get the reflexes to instinctively grab something else

We're talking about Ran, the might roach slayer, capable of slapping a roach in flight, of course that with her keen senses she was able to find a suitable weapon and get it in mere seconds!! That's the greatness of our Ran-sama!!

Easypart
joined May 28, 2014

Confrontation time

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Ah! Something is happening, at last.

last edited at Jun 17, 2015 1:32PM

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joined Dec 16, 2013

Well heart attack time.

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joined Mar 28, 2014

Niiiiiiiice!!

Natsuki
joined Feb 5, 2015

Oh, what are the odds.
Not sure if Ran is totally clueless that that's Keiko's ex, or she just knows no mercy xD

Roomie
joined Mar 9, 2014

Oh, what are the odds.
Not sure if Ran is totally clueless that that's Keiko's ex, or she just knows no mercy xD

Maybe seeing Keiko being now much better with kids and her nightmare, Ran though she would be ok meeting and sorting things out with the ex

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

She knows and I think she's making sure of the closure. She wouldn't want to make her move if there's lingering feelings toward the ex, would she? By the way, Saki and Keiko showed up at random at Ran's work. This wasn"t a setup.

last edited at Jun 17, 2015 4:41PM

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joined Mar 28, 2014

no mercy... although she might pay for it later

HypocriticalLiar
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joined Feb 23, 2015

We're talking about Ran, the might roach slayer, capable of slapping a roach in flight, of course that with her keen senses she was able to find a suitable weapon and get it in mere seconds!! That's the greatness of our Ran-sama!!

LOL. I didn't see this until much later (apparently), but that is absolutely brilliant. You obviously have excellent insight.

The New Chapter

I thought it was a bit heartless how Ran handled all of it, tbh. Maybe the translations will shed a different light, but it seemed like she was spurring on the conversation between them both, and favoring the Keiko's ex. She didn't even seem particularly worried about Keiko when Keiko&friend left

last edited at Jun 17, 2015 4:48PM

Natsuki
joined Feb 5, 2015

Ran was actually asking the ex-boyfriend, why isn't he talking about his Ex-girlfriend like he usually does. I first thought that Ran brought up that ex-bf's usual talk about his ex-girlfriend on purpose, but the last panel kind of showed that Ran was genuinely clueless about the whole situation, but who knows

HypocriticalLiar
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joined Feb 23, 2015

^ WHAT. You mean to tell me that Ran never realized that his Keiko was her Keiko??

Natsuki
joined Feb 5, 2015

^ I'm afraid so

Roomie
joined Mar 9, 2014

^ I honestly don't believe it, it would totally be her style to play ignorance (and it totally looks like she's playing here)

last edited at Jun 17, 2015 5:18PM

Easypart
joined May 28, 2014

^ WHAT. You mean to tell me that Ran never realized that his Keiko was her Keiko??

Boon has the translation. Fast as ever. Ran knows exactly what she is doing

last edited at Jun 17, 2015 5:21PM

HypocriticalLiar
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joined Feb 23, 2015

Ohhh, thank you for the link craptree. Holy nutsacks Boon's fast

And shite, it really does look like Ran's playing around...I really doubt she'd forget the ex's name...or maybe this is her way of forcing Keiko to get closure? Idk...if she is playing ignorance, it's a bit cruel. I'm kinda hoping she's just oblivious.

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