ForumMagia Record: Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story discussion

Reimu-pet-cirno
joined May 17, 2013

tutorial

I don't recall seeing that, but I could have just skipped it along with the story portion thinking it wouldn't be much different than the other boss fights of the story.

joined Jan 19, 2017

There is for sure a little banner underneath that said something like "Fight alongside Darc, Liz, Melissa, and Elisa", but it doesn't spell it out there that they do extra damage. I don't remember a tutorial thing but if there was one, might have been the same.

Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

Also like I said, experience speaks a lot to this, almost every event that followed this format has had a Super Boss at the end and some way to massively boost a meguca to take on said super boss.

  • Tart 1 had this Memoria which is a secondary Personal for Melissa, meaning Melissa had the bonus.

  • Another Daze had this Memoria which could be equipped to any girl for said boost.

  • Magia Clash had bonuses to all Nanoha girls, meaning Nanoha herself, Fate and Hayate, which was a big problem if you were f2p, as the super bosses were Hayate, Fate and Nanoha in this order, and let me tell you, taking on a 3.5 million HP Flame super boss with a Forest girl was not fun...

  • Tart 2 just now obviously had bonuses to all good-aligned Tart Magica girls, we are literally discussing this right now and I am listing it here just for competion's sake.

  • Cross Connection had... nothing actually, Cross Connection didn't actually have a Super Boss, making it stand out a little among this event format and not need said damage bonus, I said "almost" specifically because of this one.

That aside, reminder to everyone that monthly reset hit so all the monthly shops are renewed.

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Reimu-pet-cirno
joined May 17, 2013

Cross Connection had Meiyui - anybody not equipped with The Hand Arisa Grasped was just a meat shield. That had me checking out Hopes Combined, but it doesn't have that bonus.

Sakura Cartelet
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joined May 28, 2016

Too bad I joined only at the beginning of the year. I missed a bunch of welfare units that may or may not get a rerun. :(

92236351_878729135885352_4304261003933122560_n
joined Oct 17, 2019

They all should return eventually, just like how Melissa was available again this event.

I have all the welfare units but I only have Ayame at one slot as I had only been playing for like 3 days and was stupid enough to not care about slots

Sakura Cartelet
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joined May 28, 2016

Well I guess it's just the waiting game then.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83349674

Touka x Ui x Nemu

Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

The only event with a welfare that haven't been reran in JP, besides those too recent to have a rerun at all, has been Another Daze, it should get a rerun eventually, but it still hasn't, and it is particularly notable compared to the Tart events, Another Daze came out in November 20th 2017 and never got a rerun, meanwhile, Tart 1 came out in February 15th 2018, has got a rerun, then Tart 2 came out, has got a rerun as well, and we have had Tart 3.

This is largely because Tart Magica was uncontested the most popular spinoff before MagiReco became a thing, but the difference is still extremely notable, Melissa has been made available 4 times and was the second welfare to gain a 5-star uncap after gremlin Madoka, while Umika has been available exactly once and still stuck at 4-star.

last edited at Aug 2, 2020 11:20AM

Sakura Cartelet
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joined May 28, 2016

Was looking through 4chan's yuri board and found someone who shipped Nanaka with Sayaka. I guess it could work with a bodyguard crush like relationship.

Sakura Cartelet
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joined May 28, 2016

Well it looks like yet another double grind event after having just one event where normal AP is used instead of event AP. :(

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joined Oct 17, 2019

Well at least it gives more Destiny Bottles

Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

For what is worth, the prices in the shop for this one are significantly better balanced than the last(Amane Twins) one, prices in this event range from being 6 to 10 times lower*, meaning it is significantly less grindy despite being the same event type.

Though I am at the point where I am kinda... tapped out on things to farm, I am missing only CC to max out every single Magia level minus the gremlin(CC that is available in the event shop so it's a matter of me getitng around to farm it), so I might just spend the entire event slam dunking 30AP Labyrinth of Awakening.

And yes, bottles are always useful, and they will remain useful until I max out slots on every 2/3* girl I have.

*: For reference: Tickets lowered from 50 to 8 currency each, making it 6.25x lower, while base books went from 10 to 1 currency each, a solid 10x lower.

last edited at Aug 3, 2020 12:09PM

92236351_878729135885352_4304261003933122560_n
joined Oct 17, 2019

Same I just need a few items and 2 million CC to max out all the magias as I grinded a lot of CC last event

I can get most of the items and all the CC from the shop so I will be able to max them out this event

joined Jan 19, 2017

We also have a full week for this event, so the double grind isn't too bad. The story's been shaping up to be very fun.

Sakura Cartelet
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joined May 28, 2016

Except this happens to be at the same time FGO is doing the Summer Servant Festival a very grindy event (although in the case of FGO it's twenty days instead of seven) with NO Autobattle. I may end up just doing the story and nothing else unless I get the time to do the event.

Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

Frankly I am already done with the bulk of the farming for this event, got all my essentials off the shop, hit the 1000 farmed currency mission for the pink rocks, I will just keep burning my AP for daily missions and that's it, so it hardly gets in the way.

Rabu2
joined Apr 22, 2019

You know, seeing Kyouko interact with kids (how old is Karin again?) has made me wonder... Where on Earth is Yuma at this juncture? I read hers and Oriko's MSS but from what I recall those didn't exactly clear things up.

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Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

You know, seeing Kyouko interact with kids (how old is Karin again?)

Karin is 14... the exact same age as Kyoko, in fact Kyoko might be younger than Karin depending on when their birthday dates fall, since we don't know as much for either of them, the only holy quintet member we know the birthday date for is Madoka.

Where on Earth is Yuma at this juncture?

She should still be living with Kyoko, but Oriko Magica characters are weird in general and they are not allowed to exist outside their own personal stories, outside of Oriko's, Kirika's and Yuma's Personal Stories, those three never appeared in anything, it's actually kind of a problem because Oriko and Kirika are way too close to action to not get involved in anything, and Kirika canonically attends to Mitakihara Middle School in the same grade(but not necessarily same classroom) as Mami, you cannot convince me they don't come across each other in the hallways on occasion...

last edited at Aug 4, 2020 7:57PM

Rabu2
joined Apr 22, 2019

Karin is 14... the exact same age as Kyoko, in fact Kyoko might be younger than Karin depending on when their birthday dates fall

Well, she is a kid compared to Kyouko, at least in terms of avoiding falling in pitfalls after witnessing Ui do it.

it's actually kind of a problem because Oriko and Kirika are way too close to action to not get involved in anything

I assume the approval of their original creator is needed for them to appear in stories? They could have had a prominent role in Another Story, for one. Or perhaps, an event where they conveniently end up killed off (possibly showing Moemura's budding ruthlessness) would have solved the problem better than just having them Unlimited.
I guess I could also see a scenario where they hold the fort against invading forces in Mitakihara while the Quintet deals with stuff in Kamihama... But still, an explanation for their absence, even handwaved, would be better than nothing.

Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

at least in terms of avoiding falling in pitfalls after witnessing Ui do it.

Which is something I still don't get... Karin can fly, not directly but she can use her scythe as a broomstick going off her witch(lower case W, of couse) theme, which she does very frequently anyway, in fact she is one of the very few megucas in the entire franchise who can fly in any way, shape or form, why did she even need to wait Kyoko find something to pull the two of them up when she could've transformed and got out in a moment's notice...

But still, an explanation for their absence, even handwaved, would be better than nothing.

The absolute closest we get is Oriko's personal story with Oriko deciding that Kamihama is too crazy to fuck with towards the end, but that still doesn't explain Yuma's absence, since they went with the OG Oriko Magica route(meets Kyoko, becomes a meguca to save Kyoko's life), instead of the Extra Story route(never meets Kyoko, never contracts, builds up courage to contact her grandparents and moves away from her abusive mother), and you can't just handwave away as "Kyoko decided that she'd be better off living with her grandparents" route, because you already had her contracting, and there is a legitimate argument she'd be better off with Kyoko in this scenario and sending her off to her grandparents could potentially doom her.

Rights issues regarding the characters is the most likely explanation but I still hate the mess around the Oriko Magica characters, since they are way too close to the holy quintet, specially Yuma, to simply ignore their existence...

Rabu2
joined Apr 22, 2019

The absolute closest we get is Oriko's personal story with Oriko deciding that Kamihama is too crazy to fuck with towards the end

That doesn't change Oriko's problem though, namely the danger of Madoka turning into Gretchen. Even without further confirmation from her visions she's paranoid enough to try assassinating Madoka just to be safe. Especially considering that Magical Girls still turn into Witches outside of Kamihama (honestly, that alone would make Oriko, Kirika and a theoretical Coolmura prime candidates for the Wings of Magius, at least at first), and Madoka & co. still live in Mitakihara.

Holdingsmall
joined Jan 15, 2020

You are not wrong though one point to consider is that Kamihama is close enough to Mitakihara(suggested under an hour by train), that the holy quintet could safely rely on the Doppel system as-is, the system is based on geographical location and any meguca who walks within the area can use it just fine, after all, so all they'd really need to do is keep good track of their soul gems, the only reason to still hunt witches is that Madoka genuinely takes the job of protecting people serious, and expresses feeling pride in being a meguca due to that.

And again, the Oriko Magica stuff is a mess and I hate it, I mean, not the characters, the characters are actually cool and I don't think it would take too much to get Oriko to see reason, but the situation behind them is so bad that if it really is a rights issue, they should've worked a better rights deal ahead of time when MagiReco was being produced and only actually release them once something had been worked out, instead of having all three as launch characters...

Rabu2
joined Apr 22, 2019

Kamihama is close enough to Mitakihara(suggested under an hour by train), that the holy quintet could safely rely on the Doppel system as-is

I can just see Homura checking Madoka's Gem every five minutes and keeping a stash of train tickets inside her shield.

they should've worked a better rights deal ahead of time when MagiReco was being produced and only actually release them once something had been worked out

Or this might be the best compromise they could reach. Who knows how this things work, maybe they just haven't figured out yet the best way to employ the characters in the narrative.
Let's hope Kazumi Magica doesn't follow suit. At least there seem to be no issues with Suzune and Tart.

joined Jan 19, 2017

Anybody feel like translating this? These relationship charts just keep getting crazier and crazier. Except for the top left corner and this one girl right next to the turtle, NA seems pretty much caught up. (That's right, the turtle is in here.)

The artist has some great art in this collection.

Nobody told me Studio Zombie did so much cute slice of life IroYachi.

last edited at Aug 5, 2020 9:15PM

Reimu-pet-cirno
joined May 17, 2013

That first link triggers a 403 error for me. You'll need to post the Pixiv page, not hotlink the image.

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