Reejun posted:

So... what are you suggesting? That she'd throw all fetters to the wind and goes on a journey to find her inner young lesbian by having sex with all cute girls in sight?

Why would you think some kind of extreme is supposed to be the alternative?

There's plenty of things she could do instead of quitting her job and following her mother's wishes. The basics would be to allow herself to still feel youthful, her keep her nice hairstyle, and not feel guilty about having sex with Touma. Maybe she could have more sex with Touma. Maybe she could find romance elsewhere.

Also not bend to will of her parents and tell them fuck you I'm marring when I want, who I want, so don't tell me what to do. Oh also I will dress however I want, so you opinion is irrelevant. Simply doing what others tell her to do what a adult should do is not being a adult. The important part is that she didn't want to go to interview or marry a guy, but she was told that is what adults are doing so she did it, to feel like a adult. Her mother kept telling her what she can and can't do as adult, so she cut herself off from everything that would be seen as not adult like, like having sex with girls or having her bangs show to feel more like a adult, but that wasn't what she actually wanted to do. She was under the impression that is what she has to do to become a adult, because she was constantly told so. Experience with Touma made her realized that until she herself change her behavior to adult-like nothing will do it for her. The tragedy is that instead of actually finding that out for herself what being a adult mean, she just followed what she was told she is supposed to do. The point is, it all boils down to old and tired "pressure of society". She was certain age, so she was pressured to act as a adult in the way society expected adults to act. And again we are back to implication that that also suggest, adults are not allowed to have same sex relationships/sex, cos she attributes it to something young people do. And of course she wishes she was younger, pretty strongly implicating that she want to experience more of it, but she can't anymore, because she is a adult. And again, she herself might not agree with it, but that is what society pressured her to think. (Also sure, Touma kun might be representing a guy or youth's freedom to have random sex in general or something like that, but it is written as yuri manga with women so I'm reading it as jab at homosexuality).

Also I have to admit once we agreed Touma is a concept, not character, talking about series become much easier.

EDIT/ Also I can't believe I didn't think of it earlier. You all are saying how marriage not necessary has to be bad, it isn't wrong she consider a possibility of marring a random guy (who knows, maybe they will click, but again, why not random girl then?), but you are still acting like she has to marry at some point. That marring is essential part of being a adult. What happened to option of just being a single? Concept of marring is old, but for the most part it was mostly done for political and/or financial reasons, not really in order to gain happiness (that concept is relatively new). So saying most people done it, is not really that good, considering you are just pushing that outdated mind-set on Fumi, just like her parents do.

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Arckuno posted:

stupid, dumb, long post. I'm just waxing melancholic, ignore me. This is my blogjournal about how sad I am for being bad at iidx

Once their work was removed I actually wrote to Mai asking what happened, so I did hear their version of events, though of course I had to take their word for it. And since during official explanation of events on forum, both sides avoided really explaining anything, I had to base my understanding on what I did hear and read. So thank you for writing it. And yes, the whole thing was pretty dumb in the end, so I'm glad to hear it helped things become better in the long run. I hope nothing like that will happen again, since dramas like that are really last thing we need in our already niche community.

Breakdanceanomicon posted:

I swore I read this very chapter long before today...

It has been published elsewhere, but it wasn't by the current team who started the series first. Sadly, there had been some problems (from what I understood) and another team of less patient individuals went ahead and scanlated the chapters anyway.

Ahhhh, the endless battle between rival scanlator philosophies of rush jobs versus slow quality, I see. Thanks for the answer.

It actually wasn't a rush job. More of a misunderstanding, since both groups were supposed to do it together, but from lack of communication other group went ahead. So anyway, it was more that 1 group had time to work on it, while Arckuno didn't. It has nothing to do with rushed job and low quality. You can read their version on their site and judge for yourself. Also for some time it was hosted here until Arckuno told staff to remove it, so it is highly likely you read it here.

Gale. That was... really good. It suddenly make this manga feel much more deep than it first seems. Now if only that really was what Shuninta meant all along (though looking at Feelings and how she based main character on 7 deadly sins, I wouldn't put it past her).

Serenata posted:

Plus it's easier than saying homosexual and I think it sounds better, I don't feel "triggered" by the word gay so yeah... That's just like... your opinion.
If they were saying fag then it becomes a real issue.

It comes from fact that people used (or I guess some still do) word gay in context of it being like a insult. So when they said "it's so gay" they actually meant it like "it's so lame" etc. Unlike us who use it with it's intended meaning, they basically conflated gay with meaning something bad and/or weird, hence the bad connotation.

Blastaar posted:

or else to allow for jack-in-the-box plot surprises whenever necessary.

I think it is highly likely except for the general premise of the manga, author just didn't plan anything and write most of that stuff as it goes, hence the lack of any build up or foreshadowing.

Wtv posted:

I also have a big problem with the "the adult and responsible thing to do is marriage" and I'm surprised to see that in a yuri manga.

Yea it also stuck to me with the whole implication that you can only be interested in other girls when you are young, but as adult you can't do it anymore and you have to marry a man. And she even wishes she was girl again as if only then she would be in accepted age to do it with other girls, since as we all know, women can't do that. I concluded I'm looking too deep into it since it is manga by author that writes yuri, so there is no way they actually agree with that viewpoint.

@Salamandrake
Yea, I was surprised too. It is her quote when you reach last lvl in bonding with your servant, so it is also pretty big deal in game.

EDIT/ There were actually 2 pages, but I didn't mention it when uploading, so now you can enjoy Frankenstein of a picture x3

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Yes

So she is NTR'ing herself from Mei?

gwennie-chan posted:

cameron posted:

I've heard that supposedly in Japan, sicknesses are more severe, for whatever reason. Even just a basic cold can be hard on the body. Maybe it's the climate or the self isolation for thousands of years.

Perhaps also that in the West, normal human body temperature is believed to be 37C, but in Japan it's 36C. Thus, Japanese people are more likely to have a "fever" they recognize.

I'm from "the West" and here we were always told that normal temperature is actually 36,6C, but it can differ slightly depending on person. For some 36,7 might be norm, for other 36,5 etc. I always thought it was like that for the rest of the world.

Gudetamago posted:

Glad to know I missed nothing from dropping Franxx 10 minutes in.

What happened to you Trigger? Kiznaiver was the last thing I saw from them and they needed 7 episodes to deliver something good despite having such a good plot line.

That show genuinely made me mad. I was so done with it by the time of that episode in the storm with all the love polygon shenanigans and everyone crying and shit. Luluco was the superior Trigger show in the same season.

Idk how relevant it is, but I guess it is on the topic (well it at least made me laugh).

Salamandrake posted:

I felt like Touma was similar to another character, and finally it dawned on me. She's like the younger version of Suwako-san, only more flirty and gives great haircuts.

Suwako actually only sleeps with people she loves. She can just love multiple people deeply at the same time, while Touma doesn't actually want any deep feelings.

That is what you get for writing without actually reading the (entire) manga. I got scolded so I just want to clarify that to me Touma is just too forcible in her flirting and crosses little too many boundaries for my taste and also her handling of girls that actually did fall for her in some way and want more could be a bit better. I might came off as a bit too hard on her, cos I was basing it mostly on comments from thread and few parts I did read (one which admittedly made me angry).

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A5PECT posted:

It'll take some digging, but maybe someone can find some word from the author on if they still plan on continuing the series or if they dropped it completely at some point.

Baka-updates still has it as ongoing, but again, at this point you can take it either as it is still on hiatus or staff just didn't bother to update it.

Sunnyskies posted:

There's nothing wrong with being a player IMO.
Having sex doesn't come with an obligation of committal.
Touma's just a young girl trying to have fun, and isn't looking for love. And that's not a bad thing.

It is when you forcibly grab someone's hand to look into her phone and then kisses them. She is forcing herself on people and ignore any boundaries under pretext of casual fun without considering other feelings at all. Also the fact she got no repercussion for doing it to entire school's faculty is just unbelievable. If they let her do that just because she sweet talk to them a bit, then they are not fit to work in a school.

llenovo posted:

Why are people hating on Touma? She's just a nice girl

Because she is not a nice girl. She manipulates other to get what she wants and then discard them.

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MAL used to have mention it is on hiatus, but now I see they removed it and just put it as finished. Idk if that means it was confirmed that there won't be continuation or they just got fed up with waiting.

Z-Fennec posted:

I am looking for a Yuri manga about child hood friends who fall in love but one decides to get married while her child hood friend curses her child to fall in love with her.I can't for the life of me remember what the name was.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_structural_formula_of_first_love#2

Yuki Kitsune posted:

Honestly, knowing this author's works, I never expected it to go beyond subtext -- some underlying feelings which never quite come to bloom. But the anime has really been playing up the yuri-esque aspects of their relationship. Kind of startling how overt the signals there have gotten.

Hibike all over again. Girls are fine having romantic experiences with other girls as long as when they grow up they marry a guy, fuck him and have children.

Morgan posted:

No, its crap because its yuri bait up until the author got sick of fans shipping her characters so she had one turn homophobic stating girls can't love girls and the other one accepting a marriage proposal from a 13 year old on their first date.

So you made up a ship, that's only subtext and get pissed when It doesn't turn out to be yuri.

Yea, because subtext is when 1 of characters in that ship herself admits she likes other girl, but she can't possibly be loving her romantically because they are both girls, and there is that boy that just showed up and since he is a boy he obviously loves her, unlike she, so she will root for him instead. Totally made up.

As was pointed out, the fact it didn't go yuri isn't a issue in on itself. The fact author seems to go out of their way to say "this couldn't possibly ever happen, they are both girls. Here I'll even give her a guy to show you how much it couldn't happen." is other.

Also that she only came to that conclusion after she realized he was a boy. As if it suddenly made sense. When she thought he was a girl it was possible they had the same feelings, but now that he is a guy, it is so clear their feelings can't be the same. Her are obviously platonic and his are romantic.

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Altair posted:

Basically, Eclair is for genre specialists like us, but we're all here on Dynasty and don't need to buy it if it's all hosted

I'd buy it if I liked it and it was published in my country, but I guess not everyone is like me.

You don't see nipples so it is k.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be taken as serious attempt at discussion on faith judging by their second half of the comment x3

(Not to mention supposedly God is justice, so w/e he do/say is always just so when he say you sinned, you really have no saying in the matter. So yea, god is one big contradiction and everyone who actually thought about it realized it long ago)

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Yuri Queen posted:

Anyone watching Amanchu? Has it gone het? I'm worried, and haven't dared to watch in case it does...

Not yet but the boy who reveals Tekos homophobia and eventually becomes Pikaris boyfriend just showed up. They probably won't adapt to that point but they can always move stuff around like 1st season. If het will stop you from watching then better just stop now.

Meh, I always thought it was just going to be nice slice of life with subtext at best. If it is like that, then no point reading/watching it.

Nezchan posted:

Nevri, could you confirm if that's a veiled threat or a joke on how some other folks overreact to questions like that.

Latter.

Phemon posted:

Wow. You're the first person to give me a concise, straight (lol) answer.

I was actually going to seriously respond to you later when I'll have more time, but since you made different thread in which you got a genuine answers from people on topic, but instead of addressing them you got into pretty stupid argument with Nez and then for no good reason decided that thread was wrong idea altogether and closed it, I won't bother. (Unless I missed something)