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joined Oct 25, 2014

I don't understand the complains. A flashback arc using time travel as plot device is just fine. It's not like anything will change between Evy and Elsa. This arc's actual purpose is to learn about Evy and Elsa's past. Remember that it was foreshadowed since way back that they had met as kids and Evy just couldn't remember? Now we're getting to see that.

I see no problems with this.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Of course it matters. If Shiho was planned from the start, then all the more reason you should make an effort to see what the author is trying to tell with her, instead of acting like she sabotaged your fluffy romance. Pretending to know what is better for a story than its own author (and calling it "objectivity") is just too pretentious.

If Shiho's arc was planned from the start and still comes off as tacked on, I'd say it's a failure from the author all the same.

On top of that, Shiho's character just doesn't make any sense. Shiho is a deeply selfish and self-centered character; there's nothing wrong with that. What's strange is how the story doesn't acknowledge this. We are shown how she hurts the people around her and make herself miserable all on her own too, yet the story bends all over itself to blame anyone but herself for this. How does that make any sense? And let me be clear I'm not talking about lack of accountability. Accountability is not necessary to make a good story. But there's lack of accountability and there's outright contradicting what you show your readers.

This is not about preference or taste. It's not something subjective. When something doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense. You can like it all the same, and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact it doesn't make sense.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Where did the actual child Evie go then?

Probably went to the same place the adult Evie went to when the player took over her body at the beginning of the story. Let's not forget "Evie" wasn't truly Evie but an isekai'd otaku woman from Earth.

last edited at Feb 27, 2023 9:18AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I don't think Eri was looking for a different answer. Eri was just looking for reassurance that Fuyuki would not leave her even if she started dating. And that's exactly the reason Eri gave Kyo for keeping their relationship a secret so this reasoning checks out at least.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Not to be a contrarian but I think Eri genuinely likes the guy. If she was using him just to test Fuyuki, keeping the relationship a secret from Fuyuki wouldn't make any sense.

At the same time, the fact Eri thinks Fuyuki would try to distance herself from them if she knew they're dating is kinda suspicious. It makes me think Eri actually knows of Fuyuki's feelings for her. But she wants to have her pie and eat it too. She wants to date the guy but keep Fuyuki at her side as well. In simple terms, I think she's really selfish. But like I said before, I don't have a lot of evidence for this yet. It's just the impression I got.

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

But I'm confident the story will play out the same.

I sure hope it won't though. Things got way too bleak towards the end for my taste so I hope the serialization changes things a bit.

last edited at Feb 13, 2023 5:06PM

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

I took a look at the web comic and this gets pretty dark. I hope the serialization doesn't follow the web comic that closely. I'd prefer a little less suffering.

Kazu-kun
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

The truth of the matter is that someone who can't bear seeing their loved one with another person can't possibly get involved in a polyamory relationship. Contrary to what lesser manga want you to believe, those kind of feelings don't change. You can't just switch off your jealousy. Human beings don't work like that. This is why a polyamory relationship was never in the cards for Kashiwai and I'm glad Akiyama respected that.

Anyway, this was a great ending. It was the only possible ending. Anything else would have felt like a cop out.

last edited at Dec 27, 2022 4:08PM

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joined Oct 25, 2014

That whole bit about "exploiting a bug" makes zero sense to me. Like, I get that this is the witch dropping a hint to Yvonne that she knows they're in a game, but other than I just don't get what does this explain about the potion.

Last time they talked the witch told Evie that 'the thing that's been bothering her' wouldn't show up for a little while so I think what she's implying is that Evie turning into a demon counts as sufficiently villainous to earn a break from the system giving her orders

Oh that makes sense. That's why she said Evie has only one more day. When the effect of the potion runs out, she won't be able to express her feelings to Elsa anymore because of the villainess system.

last edited at Dec 4, 2022 6:14PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

It didn't seem like going with her friends was bothersome to her,

Except it was. She wanted to go see Shou's exhibition:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_blue_star_on_that_day_ano_koro_no_aoi_hoshi_ch13_2#5

She didn't complain more because she never does. That's her character flaw after all. She doesn't know how to say no. But being with them was clearly not what she wanted to be doing at that moment.

last edited at Nov 23, 2022 5:42PM

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

Ritsu is just a shitty girlfriend. She was the one that confessed but right after they got together she lost all interest in Kyoko.

bro didn’t you say you are droping this “crap” ??? also BULLSHIT they both go a lot to work on were this crap cam from that Ritsu is a shity partner? are you projecting ?

Get over yourself. I just forgot about this series. Didn't ever remember I had dropped it until you said so. lol

Kazu-kun
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Ritsu is just a shitty girlfriend. She was the one that confessed but right after they got together she lost all interest in Kyoko.

Kazu-kun
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Ms Sunflower is as dense as a generic romcom MC. Poor Matsuri won't have it easy.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I would have preferred to develop Eve and Emielle's relationship a bit more before we jumped into the Colette's arc.

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joined Oct 25, 2014

"it’s quite possible Evie would remember"

curious

Yeah. Remember what? What does Elsa know about Evie that even Evie herself doesn't??

My improbable guess is that Elsa also got isekaied and they were dating or knew each other on earth.

No no no.
It's nothing complicated. Elsa is convinced that Evie loves her. Or loved her. Everything Evie did to Elsa previously (before the "bad ending" that got her exiled) looks like conclusive proof in Elsa's eyes. Things like watch her all the time, pay attention to her moods and needs, protect her from harm, get into fights for her, take every excuse to touch her... even her bullying looked like the pranks a child plays to get closer to the girl she likes!

Like: pour water on her to have an excuse to dry her hair with a towel.

Or: hide her textbook to force her to share Evie's own, which leads to lots of casual touching.

And of course it was Evie who ran to the roof, rescued Elsa who was about to get killed and defeated the darkness spirit who had possessed her.

Because of this, Elsa was persuaded that Evie sincerely loved her. And she fell hard for Evie. And she ran after Evie when Evie got exiled.

But Evie wasn't happy when they met again, and since then she has been sending Elsa a ton of mixed signals. One day she acts besotted and possessive around Elsa, the next one she tells her to go back to the capital and find herself a boyfriend. One day she looks betrayed, hurt and desperate because some guy seems to be wooing Elsa, the next one she invites Garth to be Elsa's suitor.

It's no wonder that Elsa thinks she may need a potion to bring back Evie's "forgotten feelings" from the time they lived in the capital.

The way she treated Elsa before the bad end wasn't really that different than how she treats her now so that can't be it. Besides, Elsa specifically used the world remember, as if Evie has forgotten something in particular.

last edited at Oct 10, 2022 3:01AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

"it’s quite possible Evie would remember"

curious

Yeah. Remember what? What does Elsa know about Evie that even Evie herself doesn't??

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

It was Miss Sunflower's harem all along. Poor part-time-kun. lol

last edited at Oct 7, 2022 6:44PM

Kazu-kun
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Chapter 7 is out and we have a love triangle now. lol

last edited at Oct 7, 2022 11:25AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Uncensored hand holding. lol

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I don't know about the bonus chapter, but if you take chapter 12 as the end, this is the only kiss you'll ever see in this manga. lol

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I don't know why people are acting like this is some sort of revelation. It was plenty clear Shiho had a thing for a Aki.

But this doesn't change anything. If anything, it shows how pety Shiho is. If she doesn't want to be in the same band as Aki because her feelings aren't returned, that's perfectly reasonable. But going out of her way to be a bitch to Aki, and to Yori who is absolutely blameless in all this, well... I'm sorry but Shiho gets no sympathy from me.

All in all, I agree with the people who are getting tired of this arc. There's nothing interesting about it.

last edited at Sep 21, 2022 3:50PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I've nothing against Nanase but I'm rooting for Fuuko out of aesthetic preferences. Yes I'm a shallow person. Sue me. lol

Kazu-kun
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Damn. I know this could be the spark that leads to some actual development later on. But later on could be in a year, or two, or ten...

I'm getting just a little impatient here.

Kazu-kun
Liberty discussion 11 Sep 17:53
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I'm tempted to say that the writer is simply inattentive about details, but things like luggage, clothing, and time of season are the artist's responsibility, and Momono Moto has never been a notably sloppy artist.

That could probably be it. Moto might be the artist, but this is Izumi's manga. I think if the script said that Liz was leaving from Sumire's apartment and whatnot, Moto would probably just draw it that way regardless of inconsistencies.

Then again, I don' think it really matters.

last edited at Sep 11, 2022 5:54PM

Kazu-kun
Liberty discussion 11 Sep 14:49
10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I wouldn't analyze Liz leaving Sumire's apparent too deeply. We don't know if she was living there or just had some stuff there and went to pick them up. Plus the significance of that scene was Liz growing enough of a pair to brush off Sumire's advances anyway, the rest doesn't really matter imo.

Also, I know Maki and Liz getting together is pretty much a given but I hope it doesn't happen right away. There are quite a few chapters left to fill up volume 3 so I think they can afford to have Maki reject Liz at first, prompting Liz to actually make some effort to redeem herself and regain Maki's trust. Otherwise the happy ending wouldn't feel earned.

last edited at Sep 11, 2022 2:54PM