i like to watch crime documentaries

Do they make you more likely to commit crimes?

i like to watch crime documentaries

Do they make you more likely to commit crimes?

I don’t think they meant their blanket generalizations to be quite that big of a blanket—people rarely do.

i like to watch crime documentaries

Do they make you more likely to commit crimes?

Nope but they do influence me. They make me more angry at predators and murderers (even though I already hate em) and more mad at the US justice system time to time, and it makes me feel more empathy for victims especially when I can hear the bigger story.

Also like the difference between watching porn and watching crime documentaries about well crimes is that ONE (porn, especially ones abt rape or child porn) is that it shines good light on really everyone, they shine light on the perpetrator(s) and sometimes the victim too.(bleh bleh bleh don’t get me started on het rape cause that gets SOME MEN to say that at the end of the day women actually like it blah blah bullshit bullshit, it honestly pisses me off so much) it’s also Kinda like saying “well it’s not thaaat bad, PLUS! It’s hot right???”mainly just downplaying the abuse and fear that the victim was going through. Meanwhile crime documentaries shine the good light on the victims and bad light on the perpetrators which makes more people angry at the criminals and more empathic to those who were raped or murdered.

I know I type a lot so I’ll give you a break down of what I said; yes crime documentaries influence me but not in a way of which I want to commit more crimes, it makes me more empathetic to victims and more angry at rapists/murderers/and predators. Rape porn and child porn can negatively influences a person because of how it’s formatted. And it influences you even more negatively than positively if you look at it without your morals in tact (this isn’t always true if course)

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i like to watch crime documentaries

Do they make you more likely to commit crimes?

Nope but they do influence me. They make me more angry at predators and murderers (even though I already hate em) and more mad at the US justice system time to time, and it makes me feel more empathy for victims especially when I can hear the bigger story.

Also like the difference between watching porn and watching crime documentaries about well crimes is that ONE (porn, especially ones abt rape or child porn) is that it shines good light on really everyone, they shine light on the perpetrator(s) and sometimes the victim to (bleh bleh bleh don’t get me started on het rape cause that gets SOME MEN to say that at the end of the day women actually like it blah blah bullshit bullshit, it honestly pisses me off so much) it’s also Kinda like saying “well it’s not thaaat bad, PLUS! It’s hot right???”mainly just downplaying the abuse and fear that the victim was going through. Meanwhile crime documentaries shine the good light on the victims and bad light on the perpetrators which makes more people angry at the criminals and more empathic to those who were raped or murdered.

I know I type a lot so I’ll give you a break down of what I said; yes crime documentaries influence me but not in a way of which I want to commit more crimes, it makes me more empathetic to victims and more angry at rapists/murderers/and predators. Rape porn and child porn also influences you but because of how it’s formatted it influences you more negatively than positively if you look at it without your morals in tact (this isn’t always true if course)

The bankruptcy of these generalizations is obvious from your phrasing:

[Crime documentaries] "do influence me. They make me more angry at predators and murderers . . "

"Rape porn and child porn also influences you . . ."

That's the standard line of a censor: "I can only be influenced positively, but those of lower morals will be influenced negatively."

Assumes facts not in evidence.

The same debate like the killing games and after 20 years they admitted that they were wrong and those games influence almost nothing with real life! It's the same with fantasy, it has a reason why in most countries only forbid the real (close/almost real) stuff or specific stuff!

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Also while I get it’s fiction, which OBVIOUSLY means that no one is getting hurt by it….its just like …it’s still a child. That’s what you’re supposed to be viewing the character as. I mean I don’t think it’s wrong to feel empathy or sorrow to a character that is being abused. I mean that’s why readers have characters they hate or empathize with. Not to mention not saying that the author is a predator cause those are DISGUSTING allegations but like…why would you want to make the older person seem so actual predator like? Idk I don’t understand it. Cause if you are into how the adult is getting onto the minor it’s scary to think what whould be stopping you from doing it to an actual child if it wasn’t illegal? Especially if you like a story where the adult lured a child into her home and basically raped her. Like the dingidy dong president of the US has allegedly done that.

You'd be surprised by how many lolicons are repulsed by real children (and very touchy about not being conflated for the other)

i like to watch crime documentaries

Do they make you more likely to commit crimes?

Nope but they do influence me. They make me more angry at predators and murderers (even though I already hate em) and more mad at the US justice system time to time, and it makes me feel more empathy for victims especially when I can hear the bigger story.

Also like the difference between watching porn and watching crime documentaries about well crimes is that ONE (porn, especially ones abt rape or child porn) is that it shines good light on really everyone, they shine light on the perpetrator(s) and sometimes the victim to (bleh bleh bleh don’t get me started on het rape cause that gets SOME MEN to say that at the end of the day women actually like it blah blah bullshit bullshit, it honestly pisses me off so much) it’s also Kinda like saying “well it’s not thaaat bad, PLUS! It’s hot right???”mainly just downplaying the abuse and fear that the victim was going through. Meanwhile crime documentaries shine the good light on the victims and bad light on the perpetrators which makes more people angry at the criminals and more empathic to those who were raped or murdered.

I know I type a lot so I’ll give you a break down of what I said; yes crime documentaries influence me but not in a way of which I want to commit more crimes, it makes me more empathetic to victims and more angry at rapists/murderers/and predators. Rape porn and child porn also influences you but because of how it’s formatted it influences you more negatively than positively if you look at it without your morals in tact (this isn’t always true if course)

The bankruptcy of these generalizations is obvious from your phrasing:

[Crime documentaries] "do influence me. They make me more angry at predators and murderers . . "

"Rape porn and child porn also influences you . . ."

That's the standard line of a censor: "I can only be influenced positively, but those of lower morals will be influenced negatively."

That wasn’t really what I was implying from my statements but I do see how you got to that conclusion from my poor phrasing. Anyways the reason why I said said “they do influence me” blah blah blah is because the person who I was responding to asked/said that if I watch crime documentaries do I wanna commit more crimes? And I wante d to point out how it influences me (same way it would influence other people, especially kkm cause she’s the one who makes and reads abt the crimes) in a non negative way.

When I said “rape porn and child porn also influences you” I didn’t mean you as in the commenter I meant you as in Any person. Basically I mean you as plural (anyone) not as in singular(as in just you) if that makes any sense. And because I can see how what I said was confusing I’ll change my previous comments which said ‘you’ to ‘a person’ cause again, that wasn’t my intention

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Well I assumed facts based off of what I’ve seen/heard. Predators who go after kids or fantasize going after kids do consume CP fiction and or non fiction

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Also while I get it’s fiction, which OBVIOUSLY means that no one is getting hurt by it….its just like …it’s still a child. That’s what you’re supposed to be viewing the character as. I mean I don’t think it’s wrong to feel empathy or sorrow to a character that is being abused. I mean that’s why readers have characters they hate or empathize with. Not to mention not saying that the author is a predator cause those are DISGUSTING allegations but like…why would you want to make the older person seem so actual predator like? Idk I don’t understand it. Cause if you are into how the adult is getting onto the minor it’s scary to think what whould be stopping you from doing it to an actual child if it wasn’t illegal? Especially if you like a story where the adult lured a child into her home and basically raped her. Like the dingidy dong president of the US has allegedly done that.

You'd be surprised by how many lolicons are repulsed by real children (and very touchy about not being conflated for the other)

Right no I’m not saying all lolicon mangas are bad I just said this one creeped me out cause it was so damn similar to stories that I’ve hear/read about people (though the perpetrators were male). Where the kid was lured to a room and raped. I simply hate stories like that. Loli or not. I wasn’t trying to say that people are bad based off of what they consume I just wanted to say how I hated how the story was written out

Well I assumed facts based off of what I’ve seen/heard. Predators who go after kids or fantasize going after kids do consume CP fiction and or non fiction

Correlation is not causation.

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Well I assumed facts based off of what I’ve seen/heard. Predators who go after kids or fantasize going after kids do consume CP fiction and or non fiction

Correlation is not causation.

Right but tell me, are people who consume rape context where the rapist is pained in a positive light, more likely to become a rapist than a person who either doesn’t consume ‘positive’ rape content or a person who watches rape content were the rapist is painted in a bad light? Again from my first stand point was that the onee was gross for how she lured in the kid and that everything you consume influences you. Positively and or negatively.

Just to clarify I’m not saying that the people who are reading this story are predators, that’s never what I was saying or trying to say

Right but tell me, are people who consume rape context where the rapist is pained in a positive light, more likely to become a rapist than a person who either doesn’t consume ‘positive’ rape content or a person who watches rape content were the rapist is painted in a bad light?

no

Right but tell me, are people who consume rape context where the rapist is pained in a positive light, more likely to become a rapist than a person who either doesn’t consume ‘positive’ rape content or a person who watches rape content were the rapist is painted in a bad light?

You’re making broad generalizations based on your personal notion of ‘common sense’ without putting forth any actual evidence at all, while the vast scientific literature concerning media effects is at best ambiguous about if, how, and when consumption of media may affect individual behavior.

This whole business of whether real-life bad behavior is “painted in a positive or negative light” in fiction is irrelevant; if what you say were correct, the success of the Fast & Furious franchise would have led to an unprecedented tsunami of car thefts, and the John Wick movies would have caused society to be overrun with hit men. (Neither of those things are true.)

are people who consume rape context where the rapist is pained in a positive light, more likely to become a rapist than a person who either doesn’t consume ‘positive’ rape content or a person who watches rape content were the rapist is painted in a bad light?

The real answer is "I don't know, and neither do you."

But a plausible answer could be "yes more likely, but because they were already inclined that way, not because consuming the media made them that way." The consumption would be a warning sign of moral defect, not a cause.

Of course, another plausible answer could be "_less_ likely than a non-consumer, because getting off on media makes them less likely to go bother a real person."

Or both of those, pulling in different directions at the same time.

Or "no effect, because media doesn't really have an effect that imagination can't provide on its own."

Or "any effect is so small as to be immeasurable by any reliable means."

for rainbow8 cause it won’t let me quote ya

Basically what my comment was, was that the people that I’ve asked this question to agreed that the one who consumed rape where the rapist was pained in a more positive light would be more likely to be a rapist. And the reason for that is cause, this includes everyone but like when someone affirms with your belief in something you’re going to be even more stuck inside of that belief. Thats kinda what I was implying with my comment. Not that it means that it was going to 100% make someone rape another person but that they would just be more likely.

Like if someone had sexual thoughts about one of their coworkers, then watched a video of someone SA’ing someone of the same gender/sex that they liked, and the perpetrator in the video had no back lash. Or if the government/some media say that ‘oh blah blah they actually like it in the end’ or ‘yada yada maybe they shouldn’t be wearing that if they didn’t want hands on them’ then the person who’s not getting much negative feedback from wanting to touch their coworker even if the other person doesn’t whan that touch, the stuff that their consuming is most likely gonna make them more likely to actually SA their coworker. And if they DO do that and there is little to no back lash then they are likely to do it again no? I mean that’s why we have repeat offenders.

Idk rape and SA seem under minded, rape is the only tag I have blacklisted and so when I saw this it’s just like…no…no this manga’s gross and predatory. Though I’ll say it again, I really don’t care too much as long as everyone can agree that Onee is a bad person and if this were real she should get jail time.

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for rainbow8 cause it won’t let me quote ya

Basically what my comment was, was that the people that I’ve asked this question to agreed that the one who consumed rape where the rapist was pained in a more positive light would be more likely to be a rapist. And the reason for that is cause, this includes everyone but like when someone affirms with your belief in something you’re going to be even more stuck inside of that belief. Thats kinda what I was implying with my comment. Not that it means that it was going to 100% make someone rape another person but that they would just be more likely.

Like if someone had sexual thoughts about one of their coworkers, then watched a video of someone SA’ing someone of the same gender/sex that they liked, and the perpetrator in the video had no back lash. Or if the government/some media say that ‘oh blah blah they actually like it in the end’ or ‘yada yada maybe they shouldn’t be wearing that if they didn’t want hands on them’ then the person who’s not getting much negative feedback from wanting to touch their coworker even if the other person doesn’t whan that touch, the stuff that their consuming is most likely gonna make them more likely to actually SA their coworker. And if they DO do that and there is little to no back lash then they are likely to do it again no? I mean that’s why we have repeat offenders.

Idk rape and SA seem under minded, rape is the only tag I have blacklisted and so when I saw this it’s just like…no…no this manga’s gross and predatory. Though I’ll say it again, I really don’t care too much as long as everyone can agree that Onee is a bad person and if this were real she should get jail time.

please understand that going to the comments on a work you specifically know you won't like and going "idk :/// seems like if you like this kinda thing you would be more likely to commit SA and those kinds of things are under minded" is not a neutral action. it's quite rude and also completely baseless. you can couch it in this "oh well it doesn't matter to me as long as we agree it would be bad in real life" but you can't just say that after constantly equivocating the fantasy this manga presents with the real life actions that it superficially resembles. please use the tags for their intended purpose and move on next time

for rainbow8 cause it won’t let me quote ya

Basically what my comment was, was that the people that I’ve asked this question to agreed that the one who consumed rape where the rapist was pained in a more positive light would be more likely to be a rapist. And the reason for that is cause, this includes everyone but like when someone affirms with your belief in something you’re going to be even more stuck inside of that belief. Thats kinda what I was implying with my comment. Not that it means that it was going to 100% make someone rape another person but that they would just be more likely.

Like if someone had sexual thoughts about one of their coworkers, then watched a video of someone SA’ing someone of the same gender/sex that they liked, and the perpetrator in the video had no back lash. Or if the government/some media say that ‘oh blah blah they actually like it in the end’ or ‘yada yada maybe they shouldn’t be wearing that if they didn’t want hands on them’ then the person who’s not getting much negative feedback from wanting to touch their coworker even if the other person doesn’t whan that touch, the stuff that their consuming is most likely gonna make them more likely to actually SA their coworker. And if they DO do that and there is little to no back lash then they are likely to do it again no? I mean that’s why we have repeat offenders.

Idk rape and SA seem under minded, rape is the only tag I have blacklisted and so when I saw this it’s just like…no…no this manga’s gross and predatory. Though I’ll say it again, I really don’t care too much as long as everyone can agree that Onee is a bad person and if this were real she should get jail time.

please understand that going to the comments on a work you specifically know you won't like and going "idk :/// seems like if you like this kinda thing you would be more likely to commit SA and those kinds of things are under minded" is not a neutral action.

Well that’s the thing- the tags that are on this story are tags that I’m okay with, like in my first comment I’m PICKY about loli but I don’t hate it. Since there are some stories I’ve read and thought were cute. I have the rape tag blocked but as you can see THIS MANGA DOESNT HAVE IT. Thus why it still popped up for me. I didn’t think this was gonna contain an adult luring a child into her home and rape a kid thus why I commented.

it's quite rude and also completely baseless. you can couch it in this "oh well it doesn't matter to me as long as we agree it would be bad in real life" but you can't just say that after constantly equivocating the fantasy this manga presents with the real life actions that it superficially resembles.

Well I don’t entirely get what you’re saying here but I’ll just answer from what I’m assuming. Anyways, yeah this is bad in real life and it’s still bad even in fiction? Irl they should get prison and I’d still think that for a fictional character.

Is this the result of the US' infamous failing education system? A complete lack of media literacy?

what are the chances of the 2nd chapter having the same debate?

Right but tell me, are people who consume rape context where the rapist is pained in a positive light, more likely to become a rapist than a person who either doesn’t consume ‘positive’ rape content or a person who watches rape content were the rapist is painted in a bad light?

You’re making broad generalizations based on your personal notion of ‘common sense’ without putting forth any actual evidence at all, while the vast scientific literature concerning media effects is at best ambiguous about if, how, and when consumption of media may affect individual behavior.

This whole business of whether real-life bad behavior is “painted in a positive or negative light” in fiction is irrelevant; if what you say were correct, the success of the Fast & Furious franchise would have led to an unprecedented tsunami of car thefts, and the John Wick movies would have caused society to be overrun with hit men. (Neither of those things are true.)

are we really still going about this man, like i took a massive break from the site and we´re still going huh
Like i´ve seen this same discussion so many times on this site and it never get anywhere, people will just label you something, ignore any type of argument and after a lot we just get where we started. We should just ignore at this point

New chapter when??????

We need more