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Actually, there are only 4 countries that can be labeled as communist. PRC, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam.
Late reply, but PRC is only Communist insofar as it's run by a "Communist Party". When they dismantled their universal health care and have multiple market-created billionaires running around, it's hard to call them communist or socialist in any meaningful sense. One could argue that no Communist country has actually been socialist but some faked it better than others.
Couldn't agree more. Some progress towards it has been made on countries with leftists reforms, but sadly due to constant warmongering, coups, infighting and economic blockades a truly socialist country has never existed.
Kinda true. The country who was the closest was the soviet union under Lenin.
If you deny that the PRC is socialist because of it's market policies I am not sure how you can say that the soviet union under Lenin was socialist since it had the NEP
To be clear, I don't disagree with either of these policies since capital accumulation was necessary in both cases. I don't care if you don't think that this makes them fake communists, to think that there was any other path is simply utopianism
Pretty sure NEP was pegged fairly specifically as a necessary temporary measure seeing as how at the time the entirety of the USSR was a backwards agrarian shithole still smoldering from the Russian Civil War. They ditched it as soon as it had outlived its immediate usefulness, too. (I think Stalin later persecuted the enterpreneurs too but, then, he persecuted basically everyone at one time or another anyway - that's just how he rolled.)
The economic policies of the PRC since 'bout the Eighties or so can't even be talked about in the same day in terms of either content or context. Some time ago a newspaper 'round here offhandedly summarized the country as "combining totalitarian control in politics with law of the jungle in the economy" which sounds about right.
I'd say there's a huge difference between the NEP "let's let farmers sell produce in markets" and China's "let's allow corporate wage labor and billionaires to exist."
Kind of tends to happen with any radically utopian-revolutionary regimes. Either they stick to their ideals and get unceremoniously wiped out by the nearest meaningful power that disagrees with them; or they do what it takes to survive and fatally compromise their ideals in the process (as the sort of ruthlessness required then rather tends to permanently skew their problem-solving paradigm).
Plus since it's pretty unlikely that a safe majority of the country is "radical-utopian-revolutionary", either the government gets wiped out by the next election, it compromises to democratically acceptable levels of reform, or it has to go authoritarian to impose its vision on the population.
Wish this tag could be used more
Second, and much more importantly for me, as an anarchist: But what about the Zapatistas?
Sounds like you have a quest to get some Zapatistas yuri for the site. Go forth, your task is not easy, but it will surely prove their statehood or lack thereof.
Still waiting...
Some Rojava yuri would be acceptable too.
Actually, there are only 4 countries that can be labeled as communist. PRC, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam.
Late reply, but PRC is only Communist insofar as it's run by a "Communist Party". When they dismantled their universal health care and have multiple market-created billionaires running around, it's hard to call them communist or socialist in any meaningful sense. One could argue that no Communist country has actually been socialist but some faked it better than others.
Couldn't agree more. Some progress towards it has been made on countries with leftists reforms, but sadly due to constant warmongering, coups, infighting and economic blockades a truly socialist country has never existed.
Cuba is genuinely really nice. Like everything I know about it makes it seem like basically the most positive government on earth. Maybe more people would know if they exported more culture besides that book about how to turn a washing machine into a motor bike. We need Cuban yuri
the most positive government on earth.
If you ignore imprisoning political dissidents, using families as hostages to keep overseas doctors from leaving, being homophobic until the dictator's daughter decided to care about gay rights...
I mean in the present tense, lol. I want Cuban yuri set in the Cuba of now, not decades past.
Talk about derailed.
This was supposed to be a thread where we would discuss yuri set in communist countries or in the context of communist revolutionary activity.
Instead, a bunch of peepz with a political agenda flocked here to blather anticommunist propaganda and decry communist states.
They have absolutely no clue what they're talking about. Everything they think they know comes from Western media corporations or from organizations funded by the American government (often CIA facades like HRW) but that doesn't stop them from believing with unquestioning faith.
They fancy themselves universal experts because they own a tv.
Isn't a moderator around to stop these people from polluting the thread? I would like to go back to talk about communist yuri without having to read zealous pamphlets every time I come.
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I would like to go back to talk about communist yuri
Well, technically speaking, every Chinese manhua is a communist manhua. :D
Except perhaps the historical and medieval fantasy ones? Hmm.
But seriously, it's like some people have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of China or Chinese communism, and just spout endless streams of empty propaganda. They don't know the history of the Chinese revolution, they never visited the country, they just repeat what they heard on cable news.
Mao conceived Chinese communism as an alliance of 4 revolutionary classes: peasantry, industrial workers, intellectuals, and national capitalists. "National" meaning that they don't submit to European and American imperialism. For ten years, this is how China worked. Then Mao was forced to change the model to a 100% state socialism because of the economic war both the USA and the USSR waged on China. Then the economic blockade crumbled and Mao, and later his succesor Deng, returned to the original model, the alliance of 4 classes, and to this day this is how China runs. The national capitalists are back? Sure! But all land is state-owned, all banks are state-owned, all corporations are around 40% state-owned, and all private big businesses must give most of their profits to the government. Wouldn't it be nice if the USA were like this, instead of a oligarchy of rich overlords with a powerless clownish government?
The funniest (or saddest) thing, when they claim there's no difference between the systems in China and USA, is that they don't even remember the Covid pandemic... and that happened, like, yesterday. China was hit by surprise, completely unprepared, and had to improvise measures to protect its people. USA had two frigging years to prepare for the time the deadly virus would arrive. The results?
China: 5,272 deaths
USA: 1,218,464 deaths
This is the difference between communism and capitalism, in cold hard numbers.
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Yuri between a random Huawei employee and the US implanted spy there to find and/or create evidence the phones are spying on Americans. I'm imagining it like a 4koma type thing. "Oh America-chan, you dropped your hearing aid in that last phone! Good thing I retrieved it for you :)"
Yuri / baihe has become incredibly popular in China lately. If you go to Youtube and search, you'll find literally thousands of short and medium-length movies with yuri stories. Some of them are even series, with dozens of episodes! From what I can tell, historical, fantasy and wuxia settings seem to be the biggest favorites.
And, you know, when I read the words "communist yuri" there's one short movie (six and a half minutes) that immediately came to my mind. This is the Youtube link:
Miss Shen and the Woman Warlord
Please don't read the following words until you've watched the video, ok? Because spoilers.
It's actually a shampoo commercial. ^______^ That's right: baihe is so fucking popular right now that they even make short yuri movies as commercials for all sorts of products. Oh and lemme tell you: I'm totally buying myself some Adolph shampoo now. This commercial was so good it totally won me over. ^_~
last edited at Mar 17, 2024 2:49PM
Yuri / baihe has become incredibly popular in China lately. If you go to Youtube and search, you'll find literally thousands of short and medium-length movies with yuri stories. Some of them are even series, with dozens of episodes! From what I can tell, historical, fantasy and wuxia settings seem to be the biggest favorites.
And, you know, when I read the words "communist yuri" there's one short movie (six and a half minutes) that immediately came to my mind. This is the Youtube link:
Miss Shen and the Woman Warlord
Please don't read the following words until you've watched the video, ok? Because spoilers.
It's actually a shampoo commercial. ^______^ That's right: baihe is so fucking popular right now that they even make short yuri movies as commercials for all sorts of products. Oh and lemme tell you: I'm totally buying myself some Adolph shampoo now. This commercial was so good it totally won me over. ^_~
There's a whole genre of "two girls who are extremely close and then want to sell you something" ads. A surprising amount include reincarnation. No I don't know why.
Yuri / baihe has become incredibly popular in China lately. If you go to Youtube and search, you'll find literally thousands of short and medium-length movies with yuri stories. Some of them are even series, with dozens of episodes! From what I can tell, historical, fantasy and wuxia settings seem to be the biggest favorites.
And, you know, when I read the words "communist yuri" there's one short movie (six and a half minutes) that immediately came to my mind. This is the Youtube link:
Miss Shen and the Woman Warlord
Please don't read the following words until you've watched the video, ok? Because spoilers.
It's actually a shampoo commercial. ^______^ That's right: baihe is so fucking popular right now that they even make short yuri movies as commercials for all sorts of products. Oh and lemme tell you: I'm totally buying myself some Adolph shampoo now. This commercial was so good it totally won me over. ^_~
Lmao wow that is truly incredible. Let us all have a moment of silence for the lesbians who lost their lives in the Chinese revolution
It's communism that we post translations of manga here for everyone to view, so every item here should be marked as communism IMO (°∀°)ﾉ