He'll be back for next chapter. They always do.

Maybe I'm just being a bit too optimistic but I'd rather give the manga a chance and stick it out to the end before passing judgment on it, even if the chapter to chapter developments can frustrate me at times.

Unfortunately a lack of communication is far too common irl too.

That's true, but not to this extent. Like another poster before me said, they've been sleeping in the same bed alongside each other for about a month (I think?) and they've not even discussed what their actions mean? Usually, in real life, people would snap and get frustrated and shout their real feelings or vent their frustrations, so at least there's some indication of intent or roughly where their head is at.

The characters mostly seem very... passive, just sitting around waiting for the plot to happen to them, rather than doing anything themselves. They have no agency or desires, and they react to things in a very superficial and shallow way.

Nahh...it is very possible for people to stay quiet about those things. Theoritically it seems unreal, but when you put two people who crushing on each other in action, things like that and sometimes even worse happen. In reality, it's much easier(for some) to be with someone they are not in love with. Also maybe both were more scared to talk rather than maturely seating and discussing. It's always easier said than done, and maybe they both feel guilty, or don't want to screw it up more.
The bed thing, i kinda agree is strange they didn't talk while sleeping together lol. But maybe Mei was avoiding Yuzu all day and then just sleeping on her side. Or they didn't change beds so yuzu's mom didn't suspect anything...

What i would really like to see next, is roles being reversed. Mei actually trying to fix the things. What kinda put me off, was that Yuzu was always 'running' behind Mei. Like what Mei wants right now, how can i help her etc etc... I mean com on...noone is worth your dignity. Citrus hasn't cross that line (yet?) and it would be awesome to finally see Mei chasing yuzu. In a relationship things must be equal, not always one doing all the work...
It would actually be badass if Yuzu after this says, yo i'm done here,u can go and date your new gf. But i think author likes to make yuzu guilty and responsible for them both.
After some time Mei dating Sara, she then snaps and realises how she can't function with no one else than Yuzu and we get to see her vulneble side. I think that's maybe mangas weakness...it's kinda one sided, not just from screen time, but character wise.

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roles being reversed

I'm so glad someone else said it.

In japan its 100% possible for sleeping next to each other and not talking to each other. I ve read an article about a foreign guy who decide to leave USA and move to japan.....to become an animator.

He got his jobs after 4 years..finally. Its working in anime studio pierrot(produce an anime such as Naruto, Tokyo Ghoul--one of the best)...they work 10 hours...but never talk to each other. They work in silent. everyone is on their desk and draws.

so stuff like this...is common sense in japan society. You read a japanese manga...its normal that the story is base on their life style.

for example ..such as "student council" things seems to be an important in japan highschool----if you read school girl manga.......there is always student council president. (not that strict like it portrays in manga-) but still respect title.

you cannot ..compare your western lifestyle with japanese manga. ..saying..that would never happened. well not in your country.

despite all the hentei.......and porn.......being so exposed to the world.......in japan normal life.........people are sooooooooo anti-social with one another . thats why many people in japan kill themself. .because of the stress they are facing.

thats why there is a cuddle house(peole can go there just to cuddle- no sex) its weird to us......but they are willing to pay 40$ ..just to cuddle with mates.

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really ? I mean 40$ .. to cuddle someone ?

yeah....really...go type in youtube about cuddle thing in japan XD i could be wrong about the price...between 30-40$ per hour..just to cuddle. ....single men going there.......who only works and no social connection in real life.

they also pay for petting animals(since there is no space in tokyo to have a dog or cat). there is also host bar(like you see in anime) handsome men ...dress in suits....and serve for the ladies(normally middle ages woman- very RICH)...spend their times at host bar..cause their husband wont please them. ..and here is no sex involvet. Japanese men works all the time...and they are not romantic towards their wifes. Its always the other way around. The woman need to do everything for the men(cooking, cleaning the house etc).

there is a lot of pressure in asia. you cant talk back to your boss...or disrespect your senpei...unless you want to lose your job XD

so the japanese always come up with new ideas..to release stress...they only have 15 days free(for a whole year.)

and thats why ---Love dolls- exist xD

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so the japanese always come up with new ideas..to release stress...they only have 15 days free(for a whole year.)

and thats why ---Love dolls- exist xD

that's why NTR exists.

yeah....really...go type in youtube about cuddle thing in japan XD i could be wrong about the price...between 30-40$ per hour..just to cuddle. ....single men going there.......who only works and no social connection in real life.

they also pay for petting animals(since there is no space in tokyo to have a dog or cat). there is also host bar(like you see in anime) handsome men ...dress in suits....and serve for the ladies(normally middle ages woman- very RICH)...spend their times at host bar..cause their husband wont please them. ..and here is no sex involvet. Japanese men works all the time...and they are not romantic towards their wifes. Its always the other way around. The woman need to do everything for the men(cooking, cleaning the house etc).

there is a lot of pressure in asia. you cant talk back to your boss...or disrespect your senpei...unless you want to lose your job XD

so the japanese always come up with new ideas..to release stress...they only have 15 days free(for a whole year.)

and thats why ---Love dolls- exist xD

Well that's interesting..and sad. Mei's behavior makes more sense now lol. No wonder some weird things come from Japan xD

anti-social / hikikomori + low birth rate = future of JAPAN + ?

Is it me or is the series just going around in circles like a 'merry go round' or rather 'angsty go round'?

It's bad enough having to wait 2 months for a release and it's worse when after the wait there's still no development!

I'm near to giving up on this manga :(

^ my theory is, that Saburuta is either a genius or just puts some ideas together just to shock people and make manga longer or more interesting (thus the problem with character consistency)
I think next 2 chapters will be very important as they will reveal the purpose behind those characters. Is author putting them there just to fill the story, or there is a purpose behind it?
Sure, it can be that Sara helps them get closer...but I don't want to see a shallow getting close thing, like the one that happened with Matsuri.
Mei admited her feelings for Yuzu, but there was no lesson learned, and then she went back to her usual self.
Unfortunately it has gotten to a point where Mei's character is starting to becoming annoying rather than mysterious, and yuzuxmei ship kinda feels uncomfortable. Looks is not the only thing that can keep the ship sailing. Sometimes it makes me wonder what Yuzu likes so much about Mei. I hope it doesn't come to a point where the main couple is not likeable anymore or worth rooting for.

I really want to see Mei showing feelings and realising how much she needs Yuzu, through Sara. Not just the predictable posibility that Sara will make them start talking again and then Mei back at being cold lol.

Mei admited her feelings for Yuzu, but there was no lesson learned, and then she went back to her usual self.

she went back to her usual self because Yuzu rejected her when she open up about her feeling towards Yuzu.
when she did that move..Mei was obviously shock/hurt by it....and recovered it quickly by putting her cold masked on.
For Mei its ...the end......she think that yuzu .its not sure about her feeling(I assume that she think ...yuzu doesnt love her strong enought to go all out for her.)

Mei has a huge fear ..to lose someone(Her father and her grandfather...and i guess she lost her mother too) ...I mean if you read the story again....and try to understand her...you will see a sensetive girl trying to acted strong.

she HATES if things not under her control .....always follow the rules.......and yuzu is the definition of unpredictable to her....always doing stuff that she didnt expected.

and if you read chapter 14 again.......yuzu was not honest with her feelings towards mei. so i dont know why you are all ganging up on mei lmaooooooooooo there is a reason for her to be that way.

she even gave yuzu a chance to explain herself..and she FAILED it AGAIN.....by talking around the bush

I hope it doesn't come to a point where the main couple is not likeable anymore or worth rooting for.

will never happened the more people hates mei ...the more i defend her xD

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and if you read chapter 14 again.......yuzu was not honest with her feelings towards mei. so i dont know why you are all ganging up on mei lmaooooooooooo there is a reason for her to be that way.

There being a reason for her to act like a spoiled jerk doesn't make her act like a spoiled jerk any less.

For Mei its ...the end......she think that yuzu .its not sure about her feeling(I assume that she think ...yuzu doesnt love her strong enought to go all out for her.)

After we followed Yuzu for like 13 chapters going all out for Mei, that's still really stupid. It's not like Mei wasn't there. It's not like she didn't notice. And what's not to be sure about after Yuzu pushed her down and actually told Mei that she can't keep her shit together because Mei kissed her? No matter how you twist it, crying and saying "I'm sorry I'm such a bad sister" after kissing her doesn't leave much space for missunderstandings.

she even gave yuzu a chance to explain herself..

Well, isn't she being nice?

First if you said you know yuzu that well because you follow her 14 chapter along than you should have know that Yuzu was struggle with her feeling during the entire series. The picture became clear for her during the chapter 14 that she deosnt want to be a sister but a lover.
During that process she was testing Mei out. Wasnt honest with herself. Outsider like Mei can be irritated by that easily but not us as a reader since we know her inner though.

During visit yuzu dad arc..yuzu decide to be a sister for mei. Keep that in mind till chapter 14.

Now turn table to Mei POV
You said Mei knows about Yuzu feeling during that scene in chairman rooms right? No she did not. Mei doesnt know what love is. She grew up lonely. Her dad left her with a grandpa who doesnt give a fuck about showing parenting love. He just throwing money around Mei thats it.

Mei know shit about love when yuzu pushed her down and kissed her. She was surprised by yuzu tears. In slowy process yuzu made her feel weird. She slowly fall for yuzu charm like she never felt for someone before.(during grandpa arc and her father arc)

Than during Matsuri arc she finally realize that her feeling for yuzu is more than just sister love...she felt jaelousy. After solving problem with Matsuri. She goes to the next step and open up for yuzu.

She does know that yuzu desire her....(BODY)
And let me tell you this why I wrote that way.

MEI GOT sexuell harrassed BY 3 person
1.the teacher
2.her childhood friend vice president
3.and yuzu

all three wanted to get in Mei pants.

and here comes the key words...."do you need me" she keep asking this.

Does Mei knows about the diffrent betweent poor lust no love and sexuell desire that comes with love?

For me...Mei doesnt know the diffrent yet....so she asking sara about "do you need me?".
if someone needed her...it means that person would not leave her side. Like her grandpa needed her to take over the school.

yuzu doesnt show "i want you i need you" yet infront of Mei(maybe next ch). She always talking it down on sister basis.

And Mei return her defensive wall back on again.

If we dont have Mei POV than I am not gonna blame her for her action. In my views...I understand why she acted like that. And nope not spoiled brat at all. She has a huge fucking castle to live but choose to live with yuzu moms house instead.No servant No bodyguards.

She even sleeping on the floor instead of her own huge bed. It shows that she wanted a family. She doesnt want to live alone in that large house. She is down to earth than you think she is.

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Try to be calm, nope I can't: the aaaangst! It's so good.

MEI GOT sexuell harrassed BY 3 person
1.the teacher
2.her childhood friend vice president
3.and yuzu

Right because Mei never sexually harassed Yuzu at all. Sure sure she never started any of the problems. Nope, totally innocent of sexual harassment. You're completely ignoring all of those other moments where she crawled all over Yuzu but Yuzu is in the wrong because she didn't once but managed to stop herself? Common now... O_o

all three wanted to get in Mei pants.

First off, Yuzu has been very resistant and resilient during moments where she definitely could have gone further with Mei when Mei made those advances on her. If Yuzu really wanted to get into Mei's pants, she would have been there already however, she knew it was wrong not on the sisterly level but, definitely on another level which she only figured out later and confused her even more because it meant she'd have to set aside her romantic feelings to provide emotional support.
Which leads too... V

yuzu doesnt show "i want you i need you" yet infront of Mei(maybe next ch). She always talking it down on sister basis.

Yuzu doesn't need Mei, Mei needs Yuzu. Others have already stated in various ways that Mei is broken on multiple levels and her only known way of showing affection is through physical action. If Mei doesn't realize that she needs Yuzu and not the other way around, then their relationship will have stalled or regressed.

she was .........pushed someone down on desk by force and kissed her.....that is not sexuall harrassed to you? fine i go do that to anyone...lets see how they reacted...tzz stop with the bullshit of "innocenct"sexual harassment...thats LOL bullshit. are you serious now? if it was a men did that to mei..you wouldnt say that. she was fighting against yuzu kissed so thats against her will. FACT!

AND yes mei did that to yuzu as well. but thats not the point i am trying to say. i am trying to get you into..the mei views that during those actions.......

its clear that she wanted to gets in Mei pants...and she knows it. why you ignored facts from manga LOL mei even said ........during the shower scene."yuzu asked -why did you do that- mei goes because you look like you wanted it......."

what i am trying to say here is ....Mei knows that YUZU HAS DESIRE FOR HER...LIKE HER TEACHER AND HER BESTFRIEND has that desire......................... try to view that from her POV. .....but she doesnt know that those (from her friend and yuzu are LOVE)desire...are diffrent from her teacher .

Mei was being used by so many people in her life.- dealing those problem by herself alone. that she come to the point that she doesnt give a fuck about that.

My comments are all base on the manga...nothing more nothing less.

AND NOPE...yuzu need mei as much as she needed her...because thats love........what you want mei to show LOL did you completly ignored chapter 13 with the "I have good side and bad side....DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK INSIDE OF ME".....Mei throw her fear away after Matsuri arc and move forwards.

It was yuzu who wasnt ready with her feeling at that time.
she still fighting with guilt and sister complex...
and that confused mei ..too because she was sure...that yuzu also wanted it(sexual basis not love- mei doesnt understand love yet---all she knows is...that her body wanted yuzu)....with a rejected..she went back to her old self.
but its not a bad thing that yuzu rejected mei.

and i have said many many times...........that Mei isnt normal like any other girl in her class.......because she grew up without love. so you dont need to inform me that she is broken in multiple ways. there is a fucking reason why she is like that...and someone tell me because she is spoiled rich ass brat. ..fucking bullshit...who doenst even sit down and analyse her character. ...and only see her objectively

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Well, first off...

that is not sexuall harrassed to you?

Not what he said.

tzz stop with the bullshit of "innocenct"sexual harassment...thats LOL bullshit. are you serious now?

Also not what he said.

First if you said you know yuzu that well because you follow her 14 chapter along than you should have know that Yuzu was struggle with her feeling during the entire series. The picture became clear for her during the chapter 14 that she deosnt want to be a sister but a lover.
During that process she was testing Mei out. Wasnt honest with herself. Outsider like Mei can be irritated by that easily but not us as a reader since we know her inner though.

During visit yuzu dad arc..yuzu decide to be a sister for mei. Keep that in mind till chapter 14.

And you're totally ignoring why she says she has to be a sister. Because Mei always says that they are nothing more. Yuzu tried to understand their relationship multiple times and was always hindered by Mei acting like a spoiled jerk. Which brings me to

If we dont have Mei POV than I am not gonna blame her for her action. In my views...I understand why she acted like that. And nope not spoiled brat at all. She has a huge fucking castle to live but choose to live with yuzu moms house instead.No servant No bodyguards.

She even sleeping on the floor instead of her own huge bed. It shows that she wanted a family. She doesnt want to live alone in that large house. She is down to earth than you think she is.

Acting spoiled doesn't necesserily have anything to do with money. She thinks she can just manipulate people with everything she does and tries to do exactly that. Things like "You looked like you wanted that" or "That's the easiest way to shut you up" are things a spoiled jerk would say. Even if you just scrap the spoiled, acting like a jerk is only so much better than acting like a spoiled jerk.

So back to...

MEI GOT sexuell harrassed BY 3 person
1.the teacher
2.her childhood friend vice president
3.and yuzu

Seriously? We have three books full of Mei sexually harassing Yuzu but when Yuzu pushes her down once it's suddenly a major problem that impacts people's feelings?
In general, all your arguments boil down to excusing Mei's behavior by passing the fault to someone else. But no matter her past, the only one that is impacting her present in the manga is her. She made the decision to just wall herself off, nobody else. And isn't it a bit hypocritical to just expect Yuzu to be the perfect human being for both of them?

yuzu doesnt show "i want you i need you" yet infront of Mei(maybe next ch). She always talking it down on sister basis.

That's because Mei never did anything that would make Yuzu need her. While Yuzu tries her best to be there for her, be it as the girlfriend she wants to be or as the sister role she's being pushed into, Mei literally gives up as soon as the first problem arises.

AND NOPE...yuzu need mei as much as she needed her...because thats love........

Exactly, that's how it should be. They should be able to rely on each other but as it stands, that's not the case. Yuzu works hard for Mei and Mei just randomly accepts confessions because there is like a 10% chance that Yuzu might not be into her as much as Mei wants her to be. That's not the basis of a healthy relationship.
Again, no matter what her past may be, that doesn't excuse any of her actions in the present. She's destroying their relationship, not her grandfather, not her father, not the teacher that harassed her. And certainly not Yuzu,

On a side note,

if it was a men did that to mei..you wouldnt say that.

Putting aside the fact that that's the most bullshitiest of arguments - with men and women being treated fundamentally different in Japan - just imagine Mei being a man. You would be writing tirades of hate right now.

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Well, first off...

that is not sexuall harrassed to you?

Not what he said.

tzz stop with the bullshit of "innocenct"sexual harassment...thats LOL bullshit. are you serious now?

Also not what he said.

Ops yeah i was reading fast through it

And you're totally ignoring why she says she has to be a sister. Because Mei always says that they are nothing more. Yuzu tried to understand their relationship multiple times and was always hindered by Mei acting like a spoiled jerk. Which brings me to

ignored what .?..during Yuzu dad grave visit part yuzu decide to be her sister....because she realize that Mei need a family instead of love. i ignored nothing. i know that yuzu got confused by mei actions and words. what i am trying to say this whole time is...in MEI POV ...people dont get me at all LOL

In Mei views..she saw it like this......i was trying to view as Mei sees Yuzu ...I know that yuzu is unsure because of Mei actions..thats my view as a reader. jeezus........

Seriously? We have three books full of Mei sexually harassing Yuzu but when Yuzu pushes her down once it's suddenly a major problem that impacts people's feelings?
In general, all your arguments boil down to excusing Mei's behavior by passing the fault to someone else. But no matter her past, the only one that is impacting her present in the manga is her. She made the decision to just wall herself off, nobody else. And isn't it a bit hypocritical to just expect Yuzu to be the perfect human being for both of them?

HERE AGAIN YES I AM SERIOUS...I SAID IT ONE MORE TIME .........ITS NOT ABOUT WHO ABUSE WHO MORE....THATS NOT THE FUCKING POINT WHY I PUT THIS INTO THE SPOTLIGHT. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF MEI KNOWS WHAT YUZU FEEL towards her........there is this sexual desire that come out of yuzu and Mei knows it.

NOW here is my views of this whole thing was..........

she know yuzu wanted her...like her teacher and her best friend wanted her....so she compare yuzu desire with the other two but didnt know the diffrent between them. because yuzu desire come from LOVE. Mei could think that yuzu desire could be the same as the teacher. #thats all i wanted to say by using that abuse thing

this is because my english is not my language......isnt it....? Thats why people dont get my real message here lol

yuzu doesnt show "i want you i need you" yet infront of Mei(maybe next ch). She always talking it down on sister basis.

That's because Mei never did anything that would make Yuzu need her. While Yuzu tries her best to be there for her, be it as the girlfriend she wants to be or as the sister role she's being pushed into, Mei literally gives up as soon as the first problem arises.

and thats because mei always deal problem by herself. she is not used to have someone care for her. and this was during grandpa arc..when yuzu visit her at her old house..and said "i am here for you" ch 3 page 18-19
thats when she open herself up and let yuzu a little bit in by the end of volume 1.

the title of chapter 4 even said "sisterly love?"...\

In volume 1 mei/ think that yuzu really want to be a sister and at the of ch 4---she fell off guard by yuzu sudden move
in volume 2 mei-- open up about her father..during the graveyard. this is very important..scene because...mei finally open up to someone about her privat life. she was willing to share this with yuzu. ..while yuzu was thinking about having her way with mei(EAR LICKING scene and her ecchi thought about kissing mei)

most of you said she has no feeling---what a bitch....... no no no ..when mei arrive and realize that yuzu father was dead..she felt guilty towards yuzu and was touched by yuzu that ..she was willing to let her meet yuzu dad.

mei is a scare lil cat..who need to trust the owner first before playing with the owner freely.
her progress is very slow. ..seems like you audience wants Mei to open herself freely and fast as much as possible

thats not going to happen with mei.

Again, no matter what her past may be, that doesn't excuse any of her actions in the present. She's destroying their relationship, not her grandfather, not her father, not the teacher that harassed her. And certainly not Yuzu,

IT DOES EFFECT AND ITS NOT an EXCUSES........where do you live .........?
here an example from real life situation.

-an abusive child..got hit everyday...when she grow up....its effects her-go ask those child
-you raised a kid .by not talking to them...not teaching how they should handle another human being. ....meet those child when he/she grow up. you will see the diffrent
-Mei is no diffrent. she got no physical abuse from her grandpa...but he raised her with no love but authority and discipline. he raised her like a soldier..........Thats effect her now....thats how she is. her father was like that too till late of adult age..until he realize that life is much better than that.

you sir by saying this....Its like a big fucking slap to those who face that destiny.
level of ignorants is to the MAXIMUM

Mei need someone who lose her abit from this tight world. and yuzu is perfect for her. Its hard to break the defensive wall that Mei has build over the years but by the end of the Manga...yuzu will get it.

Putting aside the fact that that's the most bullshitiest of arguments - with men and women being treated fundamentally different in Japan - just imagine Mei being a man. You would be writing tirades of hate right now.

whats the point here ?.. i didnt say its ok for mei to abuse yuzu. if you find that text...throw that at my face because i didnt . so dont put your words into my mouth.

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My throughs are that Mei treats job seriously and relationship not seriously. Yuzu's the other way around.
And I'll point out Mei, despite being an asshole, was always clear and forward about what she wants, while Yuzu skims around the issue. I kinda feel her annoyance, really.

I'm just gonna skip most of this since it's getting really long and it's not like any of us is going to change each other's views on anything.

IT DOES EFFECT AND ITS NOT an EXCUSES........where do you live .........?
here an example from real life situation.

-an abusive child..got hit everyday...when she grow up....its effects her-go ask those child
-you raised a kid .by not talking to them...not teaching how they should handle another human being. ....meet those child when he/she grow up. you will see the diffrent
-Mei is no diffrent. she got no physical abuse from her grandpa...but he raised her with no love but authority and discipline. he raised her like a soldier..........Thats effect her now....thats how she is. her father was like that too till late of adult age..until he realize that life is much better than that.

you sir by saying this....Its like a big fucking slap to those who face that destiny.
level of ignorants is to the MAXIMUM

Well, basically just this.
As someone had to choose between his parents when he was like 6 years old and ended up being beaten by his dad pretty much every day for years (obviously not right after), I can tell you that that's not an excuse for being an asshole. My dad, although accidentally, actually broke my wrist because of a bad mark on my school certificate, so I grew up being fucking scared every time I was at home. We also moved quite a lot so I had problems making friends and ended up being pretty awkward. But I'm confident that I at least treat people with respect cause that's the normal thing to do. If I act like an asshole then that's my fault.

whats the point here ?.. i didnt say its ok for mei to abuse yuzu. if you find that text...throw that at my face because i didnt . so dont put your words into my mouth.

And nowhere did I say that you did. What was the point of us imagining Yuzu as a man?

Well, basically just this.
As someone had to choose between his parents when he was like 6 years old and ended up being beaten by his dad pretty much every day for years (obviously not right after), I can tell you that that's not an excuse for being an asshole. My dad, although accidentally, actually broke my wrist because of a bad mark on my school certificate, so I grew up being fucking scared every time I was at home. We also moved quite a lot so I had problems making friends and ended up being pretty awkward. But I'm confident that I at least treat people with respect cause that's the normal thing to do. If I act like an asshole then that's my fault.

well here is the thing..........mei treat people with respect too........esp...towards her dad and grandpa, teacher and what not...but there is a bad side...as well. i am sure you have one too.

good for you that you grow up as a fine....person (with no weird habits or inner demon inside of you)despite by the things that your dad did to you..but there is a lots of cases..that it didnt turn out that well.

i see a lots of diffrent....i grew up in a rough neighborhood..where kids gets pregnant at age 10 .....drugs issues.......violence is everywhere. ...the influence of how you grow up.--what kind of environment you are in.... ..influence the person behavior very much . ..but thank god my parents was always teaching us to not go down that path. while those kids who has their parent using cursing words all the time...the kids start to talk just like their parent.
then they start stealing as well and up taken drugs or selling their bodies.

my life safer was my parent obviously...who show me whats is right and whats is wrong--and the teacher at school.

the key person for mei is yuzu..to be more losen up about her strict life. .yuzu will show mei how to enjoy life.

you still believe that ....being an asshole is your own fault right...your not quiet completly wrong...but not right either.
otherwise ......why would movie maker ....from diffrent culture..........create film or anime......with that kind of background ? they never met each other .....but the plot seems similiar

good example is naruto because that show pretty much how .people around you influence you how you behave.
i am sure you know about this anime. the boy who got hate by the whole village..and acted out as a brat to gain attention. are you gonna say that kishimoto is writing bullshit....because naruto was an asshole by himself ?

or gaara is better choice.........gaara was a monster as a kid..until he met naruto. gaara past history influence him a lot. and then a key person ....show up....in this case naruto.........he show him how to tressure friendship during his fight.

shounen manga has better clear picture

while in shoujo manga like citrus........is not so
i see the same ..within Mei behavior ..why she is so reserved(she doesnt share privat details to anyone, people around her at school saw her as the perfect girl..while yuzu......saw the real one... the first who ever to saw the loneliness in those dark purple eyes) and there is a fucking reason behind that why she hide her weaknesses.

Her goals is to taken over the damn school. thats a huge responsibility ..and she is only 16. keep that in mind...16. what kind of pressure her grandpa pushed her through this?

she was hurt by her father...based on her bestfriend and vice president. Mei was a lovely girl who talks a lot....smile a lot...even laught when her dad was there. ..just like any other girl at her ages until he left her. so you cant tell me that her behavior doenst gets influence by people who are around her. your arguments doenst work here.

And nowhere did I say that you did. What was the point of us imagining Yuzu as a man?
who the hell say hat yuzu is a man..or imaging her as a man...i dont remember saying that shit.

i said ..if yuzu was a men ......people would go crazy over that sexual harrasment thing. same goes for mei vise versa..but i never said imaging yuzu as a man.wtf.

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Every bad actions people do, is because they had been through a difficult time(s) in their life. If you take every person, from the simplest thing like an impolite person to the worst like a criminal, they all have an explanation of why they ended up doing the things they do.
So with that logic, every person is ok because there was a reason they become like this...

I like Citrus and i will keep reading and since mei x yuzu is author's choice maybe she knows better xD
But at some times, it kinda feels like a nice girl being after someone who mistreats her :/

I agree with OriginalGengar...there is not always an excuse for mistreating people. Still not sure about Mei. There is always a line and limit...If someone (not talking about Mei, just general) is always like that and they don't change, after a point it's their choice too, and they won't change.

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what i am trying to say this whole time is...in MEI POV ...people dont get me at all LOL

You're not going to convince anyone you're right with this attitude you're arguing with. It comes across as really condescending.