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Avatar-bro2
joined Apr 20, 2013

Putting the sex aside, the story was cute. I don't have any problems with nsfw materials, but, as it said, it was out of place. I mean, they could have had sex if something "more" was developed...

Well... whatever, I liked it.

joined Mar 23, 2013

Putting the sex aside, the story was cute. I don't have any problems with nsfw materials, but, as it said, it was out of place. I mean, they could have had sex if something "more" was developed...

Well... whatever, I liked it.

Something "more"
... Just been proposed to

???

last edited at Apr 28, 2013 10:22AM

Avatar-bro2
joined Apr 20, 2013

Putting the sex aside, the story was cute. I don't have any problems with nsfw materials, but, as it said, it was out of place. I mean, they could have had sex if something "more" was developed...

Well... whatever, I liked it.

Something "more"
... Just been proposed to

???

Ahahaha! Now I read it, sounded a bit... God. e _e';
I meant, the problem about the "sex sex" scene was the way the author introduced it. It was like "Ah, maybe no one will like it, let's put some sex to satisfy".
You know, they would ended up having sex anyway, but it was too harsh, abrupt. At least I didn't feel anything that could give me "chills". First you have a sweet scene and then an "I'll cum!" line. LOOOL!

last edited at Apr 28, 2013 7:02PM

195422dz
joined Apr 2, 2013

Wending! yay ! ^^

Images
joined Apr 4, 2012

u guys havent read enough yuri to see the sex coming. i saw it miles away and waited for it.

Wooow, you're good ! Or maybe you just totally miss the point. I don't know....

It's a typical make up sex. No its not out of place. It's been done in yuri over and over again. Like I said, go read more yuri.

joined May 31, 2013

Well that was... weird, On one hand i liked the art and thought it was nice... and then the awkward as hell sex scene happened I knew it was coming because of the magazine this is in but still that was some of the most unsexy dialogue i've ever seen.

joined Feb 1, 2013

u guys havent read enough yuri to see the sex coming. i saw it miles away and waited for it.

Wooow, you're good ! Or maybe you just totally miss the point. I don't know....

It's a typical make up sex. No its not out of place. It's been done in yuri over and over again. Like I said, go read more yuri.

Lol. I must have read 90% of the non-doujin stuff on this site, bought almost every yuri published in my country and read yuri scantraded by teams out there for the last nine years (thanks again to Lililicious for making me discover yuri). I'm also a fan of lesbian novels and movies. Yeah, I must be a noob. :D

What you can't seem to comprehend, draped in your certitude that you're a genius and everyone else are noobs who cannot see your glory is that most readers saw the sex scene coming. That's totally not the problem here. And you would know that if you had actually took the time to read what others said.

My (and others members) problem with the sex scene is that the tone employed was much too different from the rest of the story. You have a cute little story and then a brainless sex-scene with dirty langage, no transition, no nothing. Without phrases like "it's like pee" and with a page of undressing delicately, nobody would have said shit about the sex scene. Here, it feels rushed and not quite linked to the rest of the story.

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joined Mar 2, 2013

Lol I love how I'm like why is no one commenting on this and all of a sudden it explodes with discussion >XD I love this site it produces the most interesting discussion <3

Z%20ss
joined Oct 15, 2013

Wooow... that escalated quickly.

joined Feb 9, 2014

I remember when I proposed we too had sex immediatly after the yes. Its just natural, you kiss and hug and have flashs of the future in your mind (all the clichethingies: dogs, cats, a house, siting as old farts on the veranda together). The emotions well up and BAM.

Katomixharu%20-%20cross%20heart
joined Jul 3, 2013

I don't find the fact that they had sex out of place at all. But the graphic nature of it was a little out of place to me. Sweet story, and suddenly porn. I have nothing against porn, just saying "sweet sex" (i.e. not as graphic) would have been more fitting given how the story was laid out.

All in all, very cute story with a porn ending.

last edited at Apr 30, 2014 8:03PM

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joined Mar 14, 2014

Some real detective work here lol

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

I think what gets me as much as the mismatched tone of the sex scene is that the story has nothing to do with the language of flowers, and indeed flowers weren't mentioned at all until the last panel.

joined Jan 30, 2013

Yeah I noticed that too ^^

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joined Apr 15, 2011

I think what gets me as much as the mismatched tone of the sex scene is that the story has nothing to do with the language of flowers, and indeed flowers weren't mentioned at all until the last panel.

with respect to the sex scene, it felt out of place. I agree that the tone was mismatched.

with respect the the flowers, I have to disagree with you. I might be reading too much into this, but IMO I read the story on two levels. first there are the individual characters. I believe that Chika and Kuroda represent both white and black lillies (the flower of maidens) and because the flowers are lilies, well this is Yuri, duh! next, each conversation is about some aspect of Chika and Kuroda's relationship. whether it is Chika's fears over confessing to the girl she loves or how she, Chika, is afraid Kuroda is going to leave her, we the reader are given a glimpse into how these two flowers communicate. I suspect the sex scene is one more form of conversation and the ultimate conversation (act) is their union (marriage).

the second level (my interpretation) is based on the last sentence, 'in the language of flowers black lily is: "a vow of love" '. what does Chika fret the most? that she cannot marry Kuroda. Chika wants to share that ultimate experience with Kuroda. this is what prompts her to "converse" with Kuroda in a drunken state. In response, Kuroda using her body "converses" back with Chika. As I mentioned earlier, the sex scene is another form of conversation. it is an exposition/declaration of their love to one another.

finally, there are flowers shown throughout the story. the flowers are not central to the plot, but they are there. for example, Chika has lillies in her hair when she goes to her classmate's wedding. more so, there are flowery glyphs that highlight the dialog. not important, but there.

what I find funny is that black lilies symbolize death ( http://onlineflowersguide.com/black-flowers/black-lily.html). so that final quote is a bit ironic. also, forgive my crassness, but on page 14 ( http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/conversation_in_the_language_of_flowers#15), why does Chika's lady parts look like Grimace's lips? Google an image of the Mac. Donald's character Grimace and tell me both their lips do not look the same. every time I look at that center panel, I half expect Chika's lips the say "me want a hamburger."

obviously I've given this way too much thought, so it's probably time to call it a night. :-)

last edited at Jul 27, 2014 4:52AM

Pikachuwhat
joined Mar 13, 2014

It's absolutely fascinating how in all sex scenes, the girls always manage to orgasm at the same time, lmao.

Makiko
joined May 1, 2014

It's absolutely fascinating how in all sex scenes, the girls always manage to orgasm at the same time, lmao.

Well, that's the magic of porn. Lol. Though it's a different story when you go back in reality.


The story's good, though I think it was a bit rushed. I'm not only talking about the sex scene though. It could've run a couple of chapters.

joined Jul 31, 2013

I thought it was sad how the church was completely empty at the end. I hope things improve for these characters, whether it means finding less intolerant people to be around, or overcoming their reluctance to come out to others, as both indicated they had earlier in the story.

Crab
joined Oct 7, 2014

It's absolutely fascinating how in all sex scenes, the girls always manage to orgasm at the same time, lmao.

it is porn and it is differenet from sex,

LumberingCrane
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joined Apr 12, 2016

I'm with TsundereChan on this one, I personally didn't experience any mood backlash at all. Maybe because I saw the tags and knew what was coming? That combined with the fact that she began undressing her when she stormed in, and she was drunk, and the marriage proposal, and the limited page count, all pointed out that they were gonna have sex there and then. Besides, I read 'Secret Shakespeare' (from the same author) after this one and that one was "worse" than this in terms of mood backlash. They didn't have nearly as much excuse to suddenly have sex in that work, but they still did. I'm pointing that one out because there was not a single complaint in the comments section of that manga, while this one has almost an entire page filled with people complaining about the same thing. I see where you guys are coming from, but it just seems unfair and odd for 'Secret Shakespeare' to be praised and this one bombarded with negative comments. I've also seen more jarring transitions in other yuri manga without anyone batting an eye and heck, seeing the number of complaints in this comment section was the one that felt jarring to me. Anyway, I liked this work because it has post high school characters and marriage in it with great art. The porn was just like any other, and apparently unlike with the majority of the people here (at least back then in 2013), it didn't lessen the story's value to me whatsoever.

Ultimately, I'm definitely not saying anyone's opinion is wrong. Again, I really see where you guys are coming from, but it just seems really odd to me that this got a lot of flak when I've seen other yuri manga get off scot-free while being more jarring when they suddenly switch from romance to sex. (not that they're mutually exclusive of course.)

last edited at May 22, 2016 7:37AM

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joined Jan 19, 2016

Well it was sweet and the art is great as always, like ive said before, I need more work like this to read!!

joined Apr 16, 2016

That was sweet...kind of.

joined Aug 22, 2016

"Why didn't tell me you passed the exam?! Do you want to break up with me!? We have no future together!"
What amazing mental gymnastics, even for a drunkard.

last edited at Jul 21, 2017 3:01PM

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joined Sep 21, 2015

That's gotta be the best drawn vagina of all this site.. I love the detail!!!! <3

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joined Nov 8, 2017

oh wow

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