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renee
you aren't a bad person for just misunderstanding a hypothesis XD.. we still don't know what team Gaji have in mind.. we can only speculate.
btw, I might be loving Seju's character a bit too much, but the ending I have in mind is mostly derived from how this Manhwa was built and where it's shown to be heading to not my bias itself XD
btw, I might be loving Seju's character a bit too much, but the ending I have in mind is mostly derived from how this Manhwa was built and where it's shown to be heading to not my bias itself XD
But how do you know that that how you think this Manhwa is built is not based on your bias... ; )
renee
you aren't a bad person for just misunderstanding a hypothesis XD.. we still don't know what team Gaji have in mind.. we can only speculate.
btw, I might be loving Seju's character a bit too much, but the ending I have in mind is mostly derived from how this Manhwa was built and where it's shown to be heading to not my bias itself XD
right, Nora89
it depends on TG after all, whether they will make this manhwa for better or for worse to all character
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Es0tric
But how do you know that that how you think this Manhwa is built is not based on your bias... ; )
because I've been invested in this manhwa connecting dots with dots all this time to realise the very fine details of it. How do you think I calculated Seju's birthday in page 267! They even posted Saehyun arrival date note so we could have an idea of the date in ch35, Dawoon would tell you "Friday night" in ch64, and Sumin would tell you "thank God, tomorrow is Sunday" in ch71 so you know that Sumin traveled a week from a Sat to sat. This is one of the clear examples that paying attention to details paid off. We already discussed every point and every hypothesis and how they are shown through panels, I am confident enough to say that I can back up whatever I write unless I leave a note on it.
Nora89
I'm just partly teasing you. Sorry.
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Nora89
I'm just partly teasing you. Sorry
it's okay.. hehehe.. I've been put in a defensive situation for a while now, I didn't get mad.. just defensive that my sense of humor didn't catch up
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Ok. Just be careful. You probably won't but i feel that if the ending doesn't go with SejuxSumin you might take a bit of a hit.
http://imgur.com/a/ihYph
"If you really love someone as much as Seju claims to then all you want is for this person to be happy."A good excuse for a loser to give up on someone. lol
sia ue, people are used to microwave food so much that they started to think that relationships could be treated the same XD
Ok. Just be careful. You probably won't but i feel that if the ending doesn't go with SejuxSumin you might take a bit of a hit.
I am prepared XD
IF, it is a big if, the new team leader is indeed the bartender, then the shoulder we saw when Seju was discussing the candidates (forgot which chapter) probably belonged to the bartender instead of the assassin.
I am surprised that people are not cheering for sungji. I remember awhile back, people were complaining that sungji had no emotion and was too easy on sumin. She slammed the door this chapter, ladies.
hlama
IF, it is a big if, the new team leader is indeed the bartender, then the shoulder we saw when Seju was discussing the candidates (forgot which chapter) probably belonged to the bartender instead of the assassin.
I don't see why this should be conditioned by that.. XD
I am surprised that people are not cheering for sungji. I remember awhile back, people were complaining that sungji had no emotion and was too easy on sumin. She slammed the door this chapter, ladies.
I am personally not in a position where my cheer for Sungji is appreciated, specially in this particular occasion XD
Nora89
What do you think of Sumin's inner thoughts in this chapter? I found them interesting...
Especially these two: "When I think about it, not liking Sungji ssi after knowing her is hard to do." And "It wasn't tough at all..."
It seems like these might play a role in her final choice.
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this chapter shows us a lot of Sumin's insecurities, she is dating Sungji and yet has all these ideas.. could you imagine how she was like dating Seju ?
also, from the past 2 chapters, we have seen Sumin being aware of her mistreatment to both girls http://imgur.com/a/D5Mfu
is Sumin now moving from feeling guilt to wanting to fix it?
this part actually cracked me up
http://imgur.com/a/RFpro
because Sumin agrees that it was tough to wait for Sungji when her inner thought says:"it wasn't tough at all"
hehehe..
It seems like these might play a role in her final choice.
I don't think it will be Sumin's move, but Sungji's.. remember that in Manhwa's time, it was only the other day when they had the whole birthday thing and the chasing after Seju.. all ch83,84 happened the other day, yesterday ch85,ch86. The amount of things that Sungji is witnessing and releasing are way too much in such a short amount of time
message for those who think that the pace is too slow XD
what I believe would happen is Sungji and Seju talking again very soon.
I am just amazed by Sumin's inability to improvise and excuse for the pillow absens (if it was me, I may say something like I am washing it or something XD)
all in all, here is some parallelism in this chapter and chapter 56. and probably ch9. (Seju and Sumin restaurant scene)
but have you noticed that for a while now, Seju just sees through Sumin easily !
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Nora89
this chapter shows us a lot of Sumin's insecurities, she is dating Sungji and yet has all these ideas.. could you imagine how she was like dating Seju ?
Jealousy is a big indicator for insecurities as well and she has shown a lot of that recently.
When I think about it, in many stories, the catalyst for people realizing their true feelings for someone else is jealousy. Seju hasn't given Sumin much to be jealous about in their history. She has slept with a max of 2 people in her entire life? (Not sure how much I buy the bartender theory, but if it is true, that would shake things up.)
Nammi was the one who brought out Sumin's jealousy in chapter 49 and was the catalyst for chapter 50.
I don't think it will be Sumin's move, but Sungji's..
I agree, but it would have to be sort of mutual in order for Sumin to let her go completely. Her thoughts show that it would not be too hard to do so.
Do you think Sumin will run after her?
but have you noticed that for a while now, Seju just sees through Sumin easily !
Yes she does. Seju has been the passive character recently. She didn't even gloat when Sumin discovered the scarf.
MacySan
to be honest, Seju is just a plot tool to TeamBlonde and TG is only using her side-story as a filler because WDTFS couldn't possibly be this long without Seju being involved in the story. however, i did like how Seju and Sumin acts like casual friends again. sh*t they could have save years of heartaches if they only talk it out.
now is Seju's chance to redeem herself, she should tell Sungji that nothing happened between her and Sumin and somehow I'm getting this feeling that Sungji might get drunk and oops!! cheat on Sumin but it would be nice if Seju would be the one who's gonna to stop it from happening again. well if ever it happen.
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Jealousy is a big indicator for insecurities as well and she has shown a lot of that recently. Seju hasn't given Sumin much to be jealous about in their history.
mmhm, have you seen how Sumin reacted when she knew about the arranged marriage plans in ch33? Foxy lady suggests that this might had happened many times in the past. And I think maybe it happened even more times during college for example, males colleagues hitting on her.. but the main point about insecurity and jealousy is that the person would somewhat feel inadequate and this feeling would be inevitable dating someone like Seju.
Do you think Sumin will run after her?
I have reasons to say yes, and others to say no.
as for yes: parallelism to ch56, it's a logical reaction even.
as for no: probably she would be so coward to try explain herself and stutter her words once more, remember Sumin hanging up the phone call while she was in Japan ? ch67
I, somehow, want Seju to be the one meeting her on her way out or something.
Yes she does. Seju has been the passive character recently. She didn't even gloat when Sumin discovered the scarf.
ah, you know why? because Seju knows that the problem is not the scarf itself, ch82, but the fact that Sumin doesn't have trust in her. In that sense, the apology itself doesn't matter much giving the root of the issue.
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I am just amazed by Sumin's inability to improvise and excuse for the pillow absens (if it was me, I may say something like I am washing it or something XD)
You were not the one who was put on the spot, Nora. If sungji finds out she is lying about the pillow, too... It will really be game over XD. Life lesson: one must pay attention to every details when one cheats.
Do you think Seju notices the pillow, blanket but not warn sumin? I would total NOT WARN her if I were Seju. Hehehe.
Nora89
but the main point about insecurity and jealousy is that the person would somewhat feel inadequate and this feeling would be inevitable dating someone like Seju.
It seems like Sumin has always thought Seju was too good to be true. (In reality, she would be, Sungji as well. That's fiction for you!) But I think Seju has proven her loyalty enough, Sumin just has to realize this.
I, somehow, want Seju to be the one meeting her on her way out or something.
Just like chapter 83! How Sumin reacts next chapter can be compared to that one. She didn't even scream Sungji's name as she left.
In that sense, the apology itself doesn't matter much giving the root of the issue.
True, there's not much she can say to prove herself. But, as you know, things can be revealed that can do just that.
MacySan
to be honest, Seju is just a plot tool to TeamBlonde and TG is only using her side-story as a filler because WDTFS couldn't possibly be this long without Seju being involved in the story.
What if... What if it is the other way around, Sungji is the actual plot tool to team pink :p
now is Seju's chance to redeem herself, she should tell Sungji that nothing happened between her and Sumin and somehow I'm getting this feeling that Sungji might get drunk and oops!! cheat on Sumin but it would be nice if Seju would be the one who's gonna to stop it from happening again. well if ever it happen.
I think there will be an encounter between seju and sungji in the next chapter and I don't think Seju will lie; she knows better. Very hard to get sungji drunk... Very hard. She may drink and remember her last drunk bed talk with sumin and realize something though.
Guilt has a lot of power over people.
MacySan
to be honest, Seju is just a plot tool to TeamBlonde and TG is only using her side-story as a filler because WDTFS couldn't possibly be this long without Seju being involved in the story.What if... What if it is the other way around, Sungji is the actual plot tool to team pink :p
Nah, no one is a plot device for anyone(maybe its Seju if Seju gets a tragic ending while teamblonde is happy ever after, lollll), all three of them are there for the plot. As the story progresses, I realize that if one of them doesnt exist, we dont have what we have right now, like without Seju, do we have SuminxSungji like this? or without Sungji, do we have SejuxSumin like this? Well, they support each other, one is plot device for the other two, lollll.
Do you think Sumin will run after her?
I have reasons to say yes, and others to say no.
as for yes: parallelism to ch56, it's a logical reaction even.
as for no: probably she would be so coward to try explain herself and stutter her words once more, remember Sumin hanging up the phone call while she was in Japan ? ch67
I have reasons for an absolute no for this. In Sumin's book, Seju is in danger, lack of clothes, her alone out there would not be ok and very dangerous in any situation, that's why she has to chase right after, Sungji is different, she herself gets there => she can leave by herself without danger, full cloth, basically will be home without any harm done, unless well, she herself gets into an accident, but I doubt that, the plot would be fell into black hole with that.
I do think Sumin will let Sungji leave without chasing after her, she'll explain later or when she has calmed down enough to explain herself
I, somehow, want Seju to be the one meeting her on her way out or something.
This I dont think would happen, Seju is not allowed to be out there alone, remember? She has to wait for Sumin to pick her up from work and take her to anywhere she wants to be.
I do think Seju and Sungji will have an encounter next chap(dun dun dun dun......... xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD)
But the most possible scenario I think of is Sungji will go and find Seju to interrogate her. It's consistent with chap 56 and 27 and what Sungji has seen and listened from Seju. Remember when Seju moved in, Sungji didnt believe Seju, she thought Seju would do sth. I believe Sungji would find Seju first and talk to her. In Sungji's mind, Seju might be still the person who force Sumin to do sth to break them.
My only question is if Sumin managed to talk to Sungji first before Sungji got to see Seju or not.
Yes she does. Seju has been the passive character recently. She didn't even gloat when Sumin discovered the scarf.
ah, you know why? because Seju knows that the problem is not the scarf itself, ch82, but the fact that Sumin doesn't have trust in her. In that sense, the apology itself doesn't matter much giving the root of the issue.
To me, its more like that's Seju's real personalities more than she knows what kind of problem there is. Since we often see her doing this or that to Sungji or throwing one tantrum on Sumin and we thought she's an unreasonable one, lol.
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btw, all three characters are so fashionable!!!! I like their styles most of the time xDDDDD.
Anh maybe I'm biased but I like Seju's style the most, so feminist and classy. Today with sleeveless, cropped top and trench coat, when she walked out of the house => that's some awesome figure xDDDD.
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Life lesson: one must pay attention to every details when one cheats.
It's interesting that you said the life lesson is how to get away with cheats instead of not to cheat XDD
MacySan
to be honest, Seju is just a plot tool to TeamBlonde and TG is only using her side-story as a filler because WDTFS couldn't possibly be this long without Seju being involved in the story.What if... What if it is the other way around, Sungji is the actual plot tool to team pink :p
Nah, no one is a plot device for anyone(maybe its Seju if Seju gets a tragic ending while teamblonde is happy ever after, lollll), all three of them are there for the plot. As the story progresses, I realize that if one of them doesnt exist, we dont have what we have right now, like without Seju, do we have SuminxSungji like this? or without Sungji, do we have SejuxSumin like this? Well, they support each other, one is plot device for the other two, lollll
I agree with yoonie ; the dynamic is what it is because the three of them (each with their own idiosyncrasies) are there
ah, you know why? because Seju knows that the problem is not the scarf itself, ch82, but the fact that Sumin doesn't have trust in her. In that sense, the apology itself doesn't matter much giving the root of the issue.
Yeah it's all about trust. If there is trust, even if the pillow was missing nobody would give two hoots about it XD
I quite like the bartender theory because if that holds, Sumin is now in Seju's shoes 10 years ago. "You better not make a mistake"; "I won't", "You won't know , that's why it's called a mistake". This would really drive the point home. Ah the ironyyyy.....Beautiful irony!
Sumin would learn (the hard way) that there's value in giving people the benefit of the doubt and to just trust. That alone would save them 10 years of grief. The question is, would Sungji?
On another note, Foxy Lady you typing almost all your comments from your phone is quite a feat XDDD
I sure hope you have a big ass phone screen XDD
last edited at Jul 18, 2017 10:50PM
yoonie
Nah, no one is a plot device for anyone
:O)
I have reasons for an absolute no for this
Interesting... I think Sumin will chase after Sungji, nothing to do with Seju's situation vs Sungji's, it's just the logical and right thing to do. If Sumin does not chase after her, Sungji will assume the worst. Besides, Sumin has a legit reason in this case although a hard one to explain.
Orange
It's interesting that you said the life lesson is how to get away with cheats instead of not to cheat XDD
ehhh, I prefer solution to deterrence.