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nora89

I think you all pretty much covered everything and can't catch up with the thread. But it's difficult to discuss and a little pointless if peopke read chapters with different translation.

joined Aug 29, 2015

if the readers spend most of their time figuring out the meaning behind every characters dialogue, actions and facial expression. I don't think it's a slice of drama anymore, I think its already a mystery drama novel in the works.

and isn't it convenient for TG to have Sungji perfect as possible. there's no need for explanation or backstory. she's perfect so she's good for Sumin lol what's the need for a plot? xD

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Sumin was mourning her parents' death, it's an understandable excuse to not want to think or do anything about the future. Especially since it was only a month

But Sumin seemingly/indirectly blaming Seju for being a part of the cause of her parents death was not understandable imo. I think, from Seju's perspective, she had been being blamed unreasonably by her gf for a month already. I mean it doesn't seem to be a case where you can stay by your lover's side, give them comforts, and wait for them to slowly get over their depression. It's more like a case where your lover dislikes you being by their side, plus, you could hear them saying it's all your fault. In this case, it is understandable that you would want to force your lover to move on.

Depression does that to people. They try to find a an explanation to why they lost something/someone or why something happened to them so they blame things (which can cause an anxiety - for example after a very bad car accident people can't even sit in an unmoving car for years or ever), people who caused it (for example - parents can kill the person who hurt/killed their child if the justice isn't served the way they wanted it), innocent people or themselves (this one is the worst case scenario because it often ends up with either a successful suicide or an attempt). In Sumin's case, she chose to blame someone innocent. Usually it's the person who is around you - in this case it was Seju. And I know it'll sound weird, but it wasn't a fully conscious doing. Sumin wasn't exactly herself or in full control over what she was doing and saying. Hormones, or to be more specific serotonin, took a huge part here.
What Seju should've done was stay by her side no matter what and make an appointment with a psychiatrist. She should've visit a psychiatrist too, ask how she can help Sumin. Or at least let her calm down and try talking again. But never push to move on. I can't blame her for doing it though since she had no first hand experience with such situation before. Even close families make those mistakes with their depressed loved ones. It's very rare to know what to do right from the beginning. That's why if she didn't sleep with that bartender, everything would've been different.

Seju was Sumin's gf, not her slave, she deserved some respects too. She didn't necessarily have to accept every single stupid blame her depressed gf was putting on her. It's been a month already, and was there a sign showing that her gf would, one day, realize that she, in the first place, had no right to blame any innocent person? I just want to say that Seju was not a rude person who has no common sense of how a gf should do for her depressed gf. I'm not saying that what Sumin did to Seju was enough for her to sleep with someone else.

If Sumiin was a little more reasonable person, everything would've been different too.

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

And what kind of conclusion you might think will happened in this story? For anyone point of view that is..

I personally think SuminxSungji will be endgame XD, a little bit anti-climatic ending since we've seen them together from the beginning of the story but from what I can understand, the author really does have intention of making them endgame XD, I'm just not sure about what the real intention of them to push Seju so far on this triangle love and even make her have panic attacks but I want her not to love anyone else at the end of story XD. Sound cruel to her but since we have SuminxSungji since the beginning till the end, let's also have an alone Seju with her unforgettable love for the end XD.

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Sumin was mourning her parents' death, it's an understandable excuse to not want to think or do anything about the future. Especially since it was only a month

But Sumin seemingly/indirectly blaming Seju for being a part of the cause of her parents death was not understandable imo. I think, from Seju's perspective, she had been being blamed unreasonably by her gf for a month already. I mean it doesn't seem to be a case where you can stay by your lover's side, give them comforts, and wait for them to slowly get over their depression. It's more like a case where your lover dislikes you being by their side, plus, you could hear them saying it's all your fault. In this case, it is understandable that you would want to force your lover to move on.

Depression does that to people. They try to find a an explanation to why they lost something/someone or why something happened to them so they blame things (which can cause an anxiety - for example after a very bad car accident people can't even sit in an unmoving car for years or ever), people who caused it (for example - parents can kill the person who hurt/killed their child if the justice isn't served the way they wanted it), innocent people or themselves (this one is the worst case scenario because it often ends up with either a successful suicide or an attempt). In Sumin's case, she chose to blame someone innocent. Usually it's the person who is around you - in this case it was Seju. And I know it'll sound weird, but it wasn't a fully conscious doing. Sumin wasn't exactly herself or in full control over what she was doing and saying. Hormones, or to be more specific serotonin, took a huge part here.
What Seju should've done was stay by her side no matter what and make an appointment with a psychiatrist. She should've visit a psychiatrist too, ask how she can help Sumin. Or at least let her calm down and try talking again. But never push to move on. I can't blame her for doing it though since she had no first hand experience with such situation before. Even close families make those mistakes with their depressed loved ones. It's very rare to know what to do right from the beginning. That's why if she didn't sleep with that bartender, everything would've been different.

Seju was Sumin's gf, not her slave, she deserved some respects too. She didn't necessarily have to accept every single stupid blame her depressed gf was putting on her. It's been a month already, and was there a sign showing that her gf would, one day, realize that she, in the first place, had no right to blame any innocent person? I just want to say that Seju was not a rude person who has no common sense of how a gf should do for her depressed gf. I'm not saying that what Sumin did to Seju was enough for her to sleep with someone else.

If Sumiin was a little more reasonable person, everything would've been different too.

Oh, I finally got to read a longer comment from you, sia ue =))))))

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Haha. xD

joined Mar 5, 2017

if the readers spend most of their time figuring out the meaning behind every characters dialogue, actions and facial expression. I don't think it's a slice of drama anymore, I think its already a mystery drama novel in the works.

I think this is mainly because of lack of monologue. There are too may panels in the chapters that has no dialogue and monologue. So the readers can only speculate behind the meaning of those actions and facial expressions. Just like in ch 78,i think 4 panels, Sumin was staring at seju during bfast and only god knows (or TG) what's on her mind. Anyone can come up with anything.

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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Just like in ch 78,i think 4 panels, Sumin was staring at seju during bfast and only god knows (or TG) what's on her mind. Anyone can come up with anything.

She was caring for/worried about Seju imo.

joined Jun 6, 2016

I think it's save to say that many pink team doesn't really care if sumin ends up with sungji... Yet they don't want anything ruin seju's character.. blaming all the shitty situations to her only fault and make her the only punch bag... Lmao.. easy target to hate...

While I rarely see any sungji haters... I find a lot of people bitching over seju... And talking that sungji needs to save sumin from the devil... (hello.... Sumin is an adult, although she is my fav... It doesn't mean she is an angel without fault)

And here I am hoping if I could have one seju for my own... Lmao.

.. I won't mind a hot ceo with unlimited amount of money, buying me a luxurious house and sports car... with luscious body... compatible sex... And a loyal one... That I can use like a doormat and throw my tantrums every time I want.. doesn't mind if I have sex with anyone.... and she will still love me ... Nice! XD

Well... If TG said that it's a healing story.. even for seju.. she have a lot of work to do.. because I can't see how seju will fiñally healed

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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

How could one possibly be a Sungji hater? lol

joined Mar 5, 2017

How could one possibly be a Sungji hater? lol

No idea. She was made to almost perfection. I dont feel anything for her to begin with but that's just me. Hehehe

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

How could one possibly be a Sungji hater? lol

Million dollars question =)))). Find me one and I'll give that person who found one a big applause =)))))

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

But really, if there were one Sungji hater, I want to ask the reason for it =))))))))). A very interesting opinion I would like to hear =))))))))

joined Mar 5, 2017

Just like in ch 78,i think 4 panels, Sumin was staring at seju during bfast and only god knows (or TG) what's on her mind. Anyone can come up with anything.

She was caring for/worried about Seju imo.

A Sungji fan or anybody could say otherwise. And we never know who is right unless it's revealed later. My point is over analysing facial exp and actions are important in this story.

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

How could one possibly be a Sungji hater? lol

No idea. She was made to almost perfection. I dont feel anything for her to begin with but that's just me. Hehehe

I thought at first you liked her? Or I remember it wrong @.@?

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Well... If TG said that it's a healing story.. even for seju.. she have a lot of work to do.. because I can't see how seju will fiñally healed

With 6 chaps left? By magic XD

Jokes aside, I do think she wont have a good ending. Right now it's easy to get SungjixSumin to the ending but I honestly have no idea about Seju.

last edited at May 4, 2017 5:20AM

joined Mar 5, 2017

How could one possibly be a Sungji hater? lol

No idea. She was made to almost perfection. I dont feel anything for her to begin with but that's just me. Hehehe

I thought at first you liked her? Or I remember it wrong @.@?

I was into her, like i'm more focus in her since her character was presented as more important and more frquently than seju's in the beginning. So if that's considered as "like" then that must be it. Hehehe. But as of the moment, i feel nothing.

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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

xD I, for one, can't hate her even if I wanted to. I think it requires a good amount of knowing the person or their pov in order to hate them. I honestly know nothing about Sungji other than that she is Sumin's cute gf. lol She has her dark sides too, but Team Gaji has been hidding them so well. People defending her always ended up saying it's not right to judge her just yet, she might not be a person she seemed to be right now, let's wait until the day the author revealed her everything, etc, etc. How long will I have to wait until the day comes?! It's been a year, and the manhwa almost ends. lol

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joined Mar 5, 2017

That must be on june 28, if not, then maybe never. Hehehe

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

That must be on june 28, if not, then maybe never. Hehehe

So, in June 28, we could see how Seju will be healed from depression, clingyness, panic attacks, we also could see Sungji is not just a mere boring character? That's alot for just 20 pages of pictures =))))))))))))))

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

xD I, for one, can't hate her even if I wanted to. I think it requires a good amount of knowing the person or their pov in order to hate them. I honestly know nothing about Sungji other than that she is Sumin's cute gf. lol She has her dark sides too, but Team Gaji has been hidding them so well. People defending her always ended up saying it's not right to judge her just yet, she might not be a person she seemed to be right now, let's wait until the day the author revealed her everything, etc, etc. How long will I have to wait until the day comes?! It's been a year, and the manhwa almost ends. lol

Honestly though, my real question is, is Team Gaji hiding it or actually there is nothing to hide? Because it's all there already?

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joined Feb 4, 2017

I never considered Sungi and Sumin to be the so called End Game , not even before I started adopting Seju. I will be surprised if they were

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

You know what's weird ? That's everytime Sungji faces off Seju alone, she's always so calm, so collected, so...deep =)))))). No matter how much Seju provoked her, she still talk with much mature, words she said, I would say, are very very witty, and should come from someone with good wit and brain, also with a strong level of controlling her own emotion, words that makes her one step higher than Seju but other times, when Sumin presents or when she's with Dawoon or sth, she's like an innocent, nice, cute girl who knows nothing but loves Sumin, a girl who couldnt say those savage words towards Seju =))))))))). But well, the author might want to build a perfect girl in every situation so they make her face off everything with so much intelligent and noble anyway =)))))))

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

I never considered Sungi and Sumin to be the so called End Game , not even before I started adopting Seju. I will be surprised if they were

May I ask the reason, Nora? Because this time we might get into a discussion where we wont agree with each other =))))

last edited at May 4, 2017 6:25AM

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joined Mar 21, 2017

You know what's weird ? That's everytime Sungji faces off Seju alone, she's always so calm, so collected, so...deep =)))))). No matter how much Seju provoked her, she still talk with much mature, words she said, I would say, are very very witty, and should come from someone with good wit and brain, also with a strong level of controlling her own emotion, words that makes her one step higher than Seju but other times, when Sumin presents or when she's with Dawoon or sth, she's like an innocent, nice, cute girl who knows nothing but loves Sumin, a girl who couldnt say those savage words towards Seju =))))))))). But well, the author might want to build a perfect girl in every situation so they make her face off everything with so much intelligent and noble anyway =)))))))

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