momonosuke

you are still missing my point. But it is okay.. not like I could explain it any further.

Foxy

I didn't say that momonosuke was mistaken in her point or that her view is invalid.. I said she missed MY POINT. There is nothing more I want to add to these comments:

here
and here

further explanation is beyond my capabilities.

And now seju legitimately become my no1 favorite character beat the previous bias sumin. Lol

What's with the sudden change of heart? XDDDDD. Did Seju finally win your heart completely with her evil attitude? xDDDDD

but honestly though, the more this story prolongs, personally I think the more people start to like Seju than other two, not sure if this comment is biased or not xDDDD

Guessing next chapter would be hard for team pink

Has it ever been easy for them? Lol xDDDDDD.

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Just have soft spot for any character who has one sided, unrequited love.

Arent we all xD? That's one of important reasons why Seju gets alot of love anyway xD

Well to be honest sumin has get character development too, and I like this "new sumin" than her past self... she becomes more honest, and act in a way that wishing both side happy (seju & sungji)

She definitely has changed for the better. Some could say her recent acts are idiot but I like this version of her more than the past. More reasonable, courageous and determined xD.

However I do hope she doesnt make the wrong final choice and then officially regret for the rest of her life xDDDD

These previous chapters, giving away an illusion of happy seju with sumin, might be just a fan service (present) from TG to pink team, since they will end it the opposite.

In front of Sumin, its a happy Seju but out of Sumin's view, I dont think she actually feels happy, lol. So I dont think its a happy Seju with Sumin xDDDDDD

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By the way, important question

Will Seju use Sumin's gloves before the story ends and will she even have a chance to use it? For what occasion? XDDDDDD

Norah, I do not understand your point.
Since, your analogy is not congruent.

Foxy, it is okay.. I am at peace with it not being understood. It won't affect anyone understanding of the Manhwa.. why would it matter?

:D

I am at peace with it not being understood.

It is okay, little Scorpio. I still like you even though I don't get you.

I am at peace with it not being understood.

It is okay, little Scorpio. I still like you even though I don't get you.

awww, this is so sweet. I like both of your gems XD

momonosuke, I wanted just to put it out once more with better wording:
what I meant by my comment is the lame justification of why Sumin and Sungji should be together, this specific justification: because it is simply a new fresh start.
what kind of a lame excuse is that !!!!
clearly Sumin herself has issues.. with her mentality, she will ruin her "brand shiny new" relationship for the same issues.
and I hate this mentality of jumping over a new thing just because it is new overlooking the fact that you can run from troubles only temporarily and relationships are not smart phones..!! Maybe changing a phone will fix a problem, but not so if the user himself is the one having issues and can't use the phone properly.

if there is a hope to fix and work on problems, then one won't regret it.. but running from it because it needs some work.. well, that's too much of a consumption mentality. Same is true for those justifying that Sumin and Seju shouldn't be together because it requires some work (that is clearly too much for their appetite) !

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Wow, Foxy lady, you came up with this when chapter 55 was released? Things are holding up so far.

momonosuke

I've been looking into the horoscopes now. XD They are interesting, for sure.

So you're a Scorpio, Nora89?

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So you're a Scorpio, Nora89?

Yup.. the lucky number.. 13/Nov (no wonder, I like Gyeomji and Seju alot XD)

Yup.. the lucky number.. 13/Nov (no wonder, I like Gyeomji and Seju alot XD)

Haha, that's pretty cool. I don't know why I've never really read the full descriptions for these. My memories of horoscopes are from teen magazines that give you your monthly one.

Do you think it fits you? From its description, I could see it I guess... But maybe some things fit and others don't?

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Haha, that's pretty cool. I don't know why I've never really read the full descriptions for these. My memories of horoscopes are from teen magazines that give you your monthly one.

Do you think it fits you? From its description, I could see it I guess... But maybe some things fit and others don't?

I don't read the monthly or daily things.. but the general description of the sign.. I happen to find myself a typical scorpio regardless of it's pseudo-science or not. I have met some other Scorpios as well, and for some reasons.. some characteristics are just fixed among us. Leo is also a strong sign in term of its characteristics matching those who belong to it

I don't read the monthly or daily things.. but the general description of the sign.. I happen to find myself a typical scorpio regardless of it's pseudo-science or not. I have met some other Scorpios as well, and for some reasons.. some characteristics are just fixed among us. Leo is also a strong sign in term of its characteristics matching those who belong to it

Things like this are near impossible to prove scientifically, as it is mostly subjective. You can find someone that fits and someone who doesn't etc.

Yeah, I never took those monthly or daily ones seriously. I remember you said that you don't get along with Leos right? Good thing I'm not. XD

It becomes interesting when you mostly fit the description, which I do. XD Mostly, not everything.

Things like this are near impossible to prove scientifically, as it is mostly subjective. You can find someone that fits and someone who doesn't etc.

Read up on the Barnum/Forer effect, it's not a definitive answer but is research that has been conducted into the psychology behind it.

You still have one more guess as to mine Nora ; )

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Es0teric! :D

I did not know the specific term, but that's the notion I have always held in regards to horoscopes and things like it.

Natural skeptic here too. :) I know I said this already, but it is fun to compare and contrast. I read some other descriptions, some could fit me, others definitely can't.

I guess it becomes an issue when someone dictates most of their life and relationships on it, but who am I to tell someone how to live their life right? XD

mpgpeg

I'm always lurking ; )

Astrology is only a pseudo-science in that people try and claim that it's based on scientific method when it's not.

I agree with you.

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Es0teric

Even though I am skeptical and I know there is no real data or proof, it doesn't hurt to look more into the descriptions and see if it matches you. Kind of test it out you know?

Like, if my sign happened to be a Scorpio, I know for sure the description does not fit me. It's funny and coincidental to me that my sign happens to fit. I say that with some reluctance, to be honest. It might just be the Barnum effect talking though.

But the more I read it, the more discrepancies I find. XD

Do you think yours fits you?

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mpgpeg

I'll reply to you in the off topic thread once i get my coffee ready.

The chairman said something to Sumin that became Sumin's reason of not going back to Seju. But what was exactly been said?

You've piqued my interest once again, Foxy lady. XD Have not thought considered that possibility. I just thought Sumin believed it was Seju's fault indirectly. Do you think you know what was said, if something was?

How can you explain to people about the nature of the use of speech bubble in this manwha if they can't even see the inner beauty of Seju?

I will take a closer look on your analysis on that once I get the chance. Again, have not thought about the speech bubbles in that way. Just thought those were artistic decisions. But willing to see a new perspective. :)

I considered what you said that 2chapters may not be enough to wrap it up. I still believe TG can. But just like ages ago, this is TG's story. Who am I to complain?

I would like them to wrap it up as soon as they can, as long as the ending is justified. Yes, we are only just readers and admirers of their work. :)

Enk

I'll be relatively okay with any ending other then SuminxSeju, I just can't get behind it.

Why?

I would personally like Seju to realize there are other things to live for under her own strength, I can't see that possible with her essentially being Sumin's puppy dog for the rest of her life.

As said by Nora89 and momonosuke previously, Seju and Sumin are likely to be separated now. Seju will go to the villa and possibly find this strength. Sumin will realize what it is like without Seju by her side.

You say that, and I understand that point, but can the same be said for Sungji at this moment as well? I mean, Sumin literally called her a "puppy" in chapter 85.

My ideal ending would be Seju, Sumin and, Sungji all moving on and getting off screen girls that will help them all become better people.

I see. I believe there is an ending layed out already. Some parts of that journey to the ending have been hinted at as well. Nevertheless, a lot depends on next chapter with Sungji and Sumin's possible talk. We'll have to wait and see.

Enk

I wouldn't be too hung up on that, because I'm not positive how legit that is.

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I would personally like Seju to realize there are other things to live for under her own strength, I can't see that possible with her essentially being Sumin's puppy dog for the rest of her life.

What are those "other things"?

I would personally like Seju to realize there are other things to live for under her own strength, I can't see that possible with her essentially being Sumin's puppy dog for the rest of her life.

What are those "other things"?

literally everything and everyone other then Sumin, she could meet someone in america or where ever that she wouldn't need to be co-dependent on to live a satisfying and happy life.

Don't you think dying is a lot easier for her?