Serenata posted:

This can't last more than 3 chapters like this... r-right ?

looks at all comedy manga that dragged their only joke for dozens of chapters y-yes, you're right!

Finished Tiamat video

kasu_nyan009 posted:

What happened? Why is it reuploaded?

Idk, maybe because of this?

drpepperfan posted:

Older chapters updated with fixed versions.

elevown posted:

^Because most of it is doujins or self published - we don't get that many yuri manga paid to be made for a magazine etc, where a really good artist is gonna put in the kind of time and effort needed for great backgrounds.

Also, story wise, the background art is often superfluous - or does not need to be detailed. It just looks a lot better when it is:) Thus it is often skipped or minimized for time/effort reasons.

I feel like it ironically could be actually reverse, especially when weekly published. When you're self published you don't really have a schedule and can put as much time and effort as you want, polishing everything. On the other hand when you're a "proper" mangaka and have schedules and such, it often is hard to find enough time/motivation to put as much effort, so in fact skipping stuff like that is usually first thing you're going to do. It's a fact, most magazines don't give a fuck about how you envisioned your story to look and only care about releasing profitable new chapters. The Shounen Jump is the best example of how even very talented artists over time are worked to death. It is just not realistic to keep a very detailed, polished art-style when you need to make weekly releases. At some point you will start to make compromises and adapt quicker ways to draw stuff. The best example from top of my head is Kubo who was pretty much genius in term of drawing, but over time, he stopped giving a fuck and he basically stopped drawing backgrounds altogether. Also his art-style become much more simplified and "shoune-like" when before it was much more detailed and distinctive. Sure, you can hire assistants, but their job is more of doing the repetitive, annoying stuff and at best copying you, so unless they are at the same lvl at you, they really can't help with quality of manga. Other example is Kishimoto, at first he gave Naruto very detailed googles, but he immediately realized they are way too hard and complicate to draw over and over, so he quickly changed them to very simple village headband.

Sure there are also monthly releases etc. so they have a bit more of free room, but still, unless you're very good and efficient at your drawing, there is no way you can keep up putting very detailed, impressive work time after time. That is probably the main reason, why most mangas are not that impressive art wise, especially since as you said, at best it only make them look better, most of the time you don't really need it to express core emotions or plot of the story.

TL;DR: Being published doesn't automatically means your art is better than self-published and even if your art is very good, it can actually take much more effort to show it off, when you're published.

Either way, Itou is amazing artist regardless.

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gomezio posted:

lying is bad tho

it's not lying, it just seems like she's shy/bad at expressing herself freely. sometimes it takes a while to warm up to the person you've just started dating.

Lying because you’re shy/awkward is still lying. Obviously in this case it’s not a big deal or anything, but it is definitely still lying.

Well you sometimes lie to hid your true feelings, because you're too embarrassed/not ready to admit them. I'm sure there are people who actually enjoy stuff like that though. B-but it's not like I like it or anything, b-baka!

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Serenata posted:

I saw the pre screen (early release of the first episode) of Manaria Friends and wow... IT IS AMAZING! the first chapter was 10minutes and it's gonna be 10 episodes.

Does it have yuri potential or it stays in close friends terytory?

White Rose posted:

Lol, panicky panicky backpedal.
That awkward moment when you realize everyone was talking about Saijou while all the time you thought they were talking about Touno. You reread your lengthy rants, confirm how outlandish they sounded, then you slink back to your place to watch Dragonball and sulk.

Lol, I knew we were talking about Saijou. I just didn't bother to go into it, because I never claimed anything. But if you insist, sure I can bite. Since she said it was her first time being confessed by a girl and she needs to properly think it through, we can assume, at least at the moment, she doesn't think of herself as a lesbian, since she has never before considered dating another girl. So if she was capable of liking guys before it, then yes, that would make her bisexual. Huh, when I actually thought about it, the original poster had a point, who would have thought, right?

You tried to mock me, but didn't realize you were the one to misunderstand my posts. Well, your miserable attempt at making fun of me was at least funny, so I'll let that slide.

last edited at Dec 19, 2018 12:33PM

Blastaar posted:

Nev of course is right.

Of course. I'm always right.

They've already tongue-kissed and held hands with intertwined fingers--how much further can they go?

I'm betting on mom coming in, while they are intensely staring at each other.

After all, what else 2 girls can do?

last edited at Dec 19, 2018 10:46AM

Nene posted:

Anyone who sees the Bisexual tag and comes here hoping to read a story about a MC in a romantic tangle between a boy and a girl is going to be sorely disappointed.

Except on dynasty all the bisexual tag mean is "story has a character who is canonically bisexual". It could be a big part of the story or it could pretty much irrelevant. It's funny how hung up on it you get, considering you just gave the most common and misunderstood understanding of being bisexual. Bi people don't get involved in love triangle with boy and girl by default. It can easily be with 2 girls or 2 boys. In fact, they don't need to get involved in love triangle at all. The fact that is the only story with bisexuals you can think of is very telling.

Touno thought about dating a boy (who never appears) for about 3 pages, then discarded the idea.

I agree her bisexuality feels more like a plot device to get story rolling, but it was still there, so I get why staff tagged it as such. It is pretty clear at this point, it will never be explored or mentioned again, so idk why so many people get worked over it, instead of just reading cute yuri. Nah, I know why. It is the yuri purist having a allergic reaction to bisexual tag and wanting it being removed so they can read it in peace without worrying if she will cheat with a boy.

Actually, as a matter of fact, this thread derailed when a small number of people started pushing the absurd idea that Saijou must be bisexual -- story canon be damned -- and would (to quote one of them) "just want some cock" in the future. I asked them a few times to provide evidence to support their belief, and every time they replied with kindergarten-level tantrums, personal attacks and name-calling. 乁(° ͟ʖ ͠°)ㄏ

Only 1 person claimed it and everyone else only commented about what you wrote. Maybe if you weren't trying to argue against some imaginary collective, people would take you seriously.

White Rose posted:

Nene: 1 -- Bugpope: 0

Considering neither of you realized Bugpope didn't write original post, I'd say it is more Nene: 0 -- Bugpope: over 9000

Blastaar posted:

labels seem to matter more than anything else to some folks around here, for some reasons I understand and many I don’t.

Yea same, I never really cared about labels much. I do understand why some people need labels and why it's in our nature to want to label and sort things, but still some people take it to unhealthy extremes...

Nene posted:

Maybe this one doesn't deserve a bisexual tag because the boy's been totally forgotten, but it's important to remember that MC is bi. Just because she's in a wlw relationship doesn't make her a lesbian. In fact, both characters seemed perfectly capable of being in mlw relationships before this. You don't stop being bi when you start dating someone. Just like our girls Korra and Asami.

If you want to tag as bi any and all girls who are not completely and utterly incapable of having sex with a boy -- I mean, all the girls who are capable, when the time comes, to close their eyes and think of England -- then 99,9% of the manga in this Reader are stories about bisexuals.

I agree whatever she is bi or not isn't really that important (unless you're one of those people who by default consider bi people unfaithful cheaters who will choose guy as soon as one shows up, so you want to prepare yourself for that possibility), but you're going into extremes. Whatever you like it or not, it is a fact she wanted to confess and date a guy, so unless it will be elaborated on more later, as far as we know, she is capable of being attracted to both guys and girls, which by definition make her bi. So it isn't like they want to call her bi on a whim.

Nene posted:

Btw, I'm curious as what kind of evidence is the basis for your affirmation that Saijou Nagisa would have been willing to date a boy before this.

Why is labelling people so important to you?

No evidence at all, huh? You just like to imagine her with boys? You want her to be like that, because that's what turns you on?

No surprise, then. It's what I had guessed. Sigh.

Wow, you really are full of it and quick to look down on others. You were so eager to assume they want to fap to her, without realizing Bugpope wasn't even the one who wrote that original post and has no need to defend it or answer your question.

random posted:

It's just a comparison; an analogy.

A bad one that makes no sense to begin with due to the aforementioned fundamental differences between the subjects, even leaving the obvious offensive potential aside. Might as well have been trying to make some kind of point about breathing by comparing it to making sandcastles.

Expect the whole point of comparison is to give a easier to understand example of 1 specific aspect of a thing, not saying those 2 things are identical in every way. They did make a bad comparison, but not because they somehow implied that sexuality is the same thing as choosing your diet. They suggested just because you dated guys before, it doesn't mean you're bisexual, if currently you're only dating girls. Sure you can argue she was lesbian all along, but unless it is expended on, from information we have, it is safe to assume she is bi. Just because you currently don't date guys, doesn't mean you magically stopped being attracted to them. random you always write reasonable posts and I tend to agree with you, but this time you really are arguing about wrong thing.

You guys really made a whole bunch of pointless arguments, when this

kanonchan posted:

The author hasn't updated this since august RIP

is way more important and serious matter.

Jeez, and I came wanting to write

I kissed a girl... and I liked it! So only natural thing to do after it is to keep on kissing her! Even if it started from misunderstanding, she is clearly attracted to Nagisa now, so her failed confession is irrelevant at this point. Also her being so aggressive was very hot.

but, you really ruined the thread.

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There is a stereotypical delinquent girl, rough, gets into fights, speaks like yakuza, skips school, has long skirt and often wears health mask. Then you have delinquents who are basically "anyone who breaks any rule", so even a girl who just skips school is called delinquent in Japan.

last edited at Dec 17, 2018 3:48PM

Remy posted:

i guess what i meant is in the future, as LGBT becomes accepted, would these types of work be less interesting

If you only read them for novelty sake, then yes. They would.

Remy posted:

is the taboo aspect wat makes yuri interesting in the first place for you guys?
i wonder if in the future it won’t be as special

I see yuri as normal romance stories just like het. I never considered them taboo in the first place, so it was never factor for me. Sure when homosexuality isn't accepted in story it can create unique situations and plots, not present in het works, but we still also have plenty of fluffy yuri where being gay is not only accepted, but often treated as normal. And most importantly, as a lesbian girls liking each other is something natural to me. Despite reading dozens of het stories, I could never get invested into male lead, so yuri is pretty much exactly what I want. Also girls are superior gender.

schuyguy posted:

It's just really funny how often romance manga will end with one character suddenly moving away in the second to last chapter, and the other character having to either go find them or wait for them, with them reuniting in the last chapter for the finale. I can think up 5 off the top of my head, but I bet I've read at least a dozen that do this. It's like this is just the default response to "Oh shit! Manga's cancelled, I've got 3 chapters to finish it!"

Rotfl yes, I totally understand what you're talking about and it always annoyed me. As if it was default way to end story on dramatic note. I suppose it is at least the easiest way.

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schuyguy posted:

But after that, Kei just up and leaves, disappearing without notice. It turns out her father died, and so she went back to the countryside to deal with family matters. For whatever reason, she decided to completely cut Emi and all of her friends out of her life, and doesn't speak to any of them or respond to their attempts to contact her. Emi finds her eventually, and convinces her to come back, but Kei says she'll have to spend a year getting her family business sorted out. It's a completely arbitrary, generic, and anti-climactic ending. Or at least that's how I remember it, I read it a while ago.

The ending isn't really bad, it's just boring. It doesn't ruin the stuff that comes before it, which I really did like.

Oh jeez, I hate that kind of stuff. Drama for the sake of drama. There was no reason for it to happen, they could just talk it over, but we need some shit happening at the end so they turn it into conflict or whatever other reason for it was. Sure it doesn't ruin everything else that came, but it still leaves bad taste and ends work on a bad note. Just ignore the ending/last X chapters is really not the way you want people to talk about your story.

schuyguy posted:

Don’t get this manga, it’s bait and switch yuri and it’s terribly written!!!!

Huh? What the hell are you talking about? Did you even read it?

I have my own problems with the ending (kind of a lot of them), but you couldn't honestly call this series "bait-and-switch".

Mind to spoil me? Want to know if it is worth reading after volume 1.

Alextasha posted:

If someone would be interested, there is nice manga on pixiv :) https://www.pixiv.net/user/5235417/series/614?fbclid=IwAR01wWwGWYbmvgVVEEa0zVJOCaKtdmj6ZAAmFqGeHVRV9TM7S4MwJ-trQ1Y I don't think it was already translated in English

Em?

Rye posted:

I don't like to rub my Luck EX- in everyone's faces... Still only managed to get a single Fuji-nee though... 3* rate-up is the biggest of lies.

What the heck?! I usually get a bunch of the rate up 3* before I see a gold.

Spend like 2000+ quartz so far on this game and 90% of silvers were not rate up ones. It only exist to bait you into rolling.

And speaking of rate up. Rolled 13 single rolls for Chibidusa. Got 500 years obsession, super kirei and divine banquet (already have 2 LB I never use). Rate up do not exist.

I'm not salty

last edited at Dec 15, 2018 10:11AM

elevown posted:

That was super cute! I wonder what would come next, and if/when she would figure out the misunderstanding - and what she'd do about it?

Maybe she wouldn't consider it misunderstanding ;P

Gj mom xD

Polioro posted:

I sly HATE IT when someone says "there isn't somebody 100% heterosexual", so am I not 100% homosexual, then? Because nobody can have a 100% sexuality according to that people. Superprogresive the invisibilization. Lesbian don't exist, are the fathers.

Well not to say you're wrong, but sexuality is not a hard line like people like to imagine, but more of a spectrum. Your spectrum can be 99% for women and 1% for men but it is still there. What I mean, you can feel like you're only attracted to women, but you can still find 1 very specific man that you feel attraction to (not specifically sexual). It might be meme, but there is the "I'm gay for" joke after all. I consider myself a full-fledged lesbian too, but I do find some male voices attractive and I'm totally straight for Archer, so there is exception for any rule. Just 1 exception doesn't break the rule and destroy your whole identity. That being said, as a person who did not read chapter (because that manga is trash), I can't say how it was said and there is a real chance it was presented in a insulting way. I only wanted to say idea itself might not be completely unreasonable.

last edited at Dec 13, 2018 8:13PM

DC3 posted:

DC3 posted:

I like how the people here are annoyed because of the cliche but if they actually confessed to each other and went out together the end people would complain how short and rushed the ending is.

Why it has to end if they start to go out though?

well, most yuri manga stories end when the girls confess to each other.

That is actually true for most romance mangas, not just yuri, and it is mostly because either author only has idea how to make characters getting together interesting, not their actual dating or they simply can't write characters dating.

the confession would just ruin the comedy imo.

What comedy? People want them to confess, exactly because it isn't funny to read, only painful.

last edited at Dec 9, 2018 11:19PM

DC3 posted:

I like how the people here are annoyed because of the cliche but if they actually confessed to each other and went out together the end people would complain how short and rushed the ending is.

Why it has to end if they start to go out though?

Had fun bullying Gorgon