Masina posted:

It does not matter what they say. Hand holding and squeezing means they cross that line. Miyako on top and squeezes, Suga does not pull her hand back. In fact I think Suga turns her hand and holds Miyako, but it is hard to tell from that panel as the drawing is not that clear. If this is not happening inside a haunted house, then there is only one other reason the two will hold and squeeze hands, even if it is done unconsciously.

I think you're reading too much into it from the point of view of Asako. She's a caring person (as highlighted in the previous chapters) and knows that Miyako has a trauma from her previous life as an idol. So she acts in support of Miyako, not because of some affection.

Suga is still obviously in "big sister" and overly caring mode, she doesn't see Miyako as a romantic possibility.

Miyako is getting more and more attached. She probably never knew love, but it's starting to take shape in that direction, even if she's not there yet.

We probably have a while before any "real" romance can start (if ever).

Probably the usual "suki", which is very ambiguous in Japanese.

To make things short, Aya has a something like a crush on what she thinks is a guy, because she finds him cool and they have similar tastes in music.

What little romance in that story you can dig out is that "crush". Though it's more like she's a fan rather than crushing on "onii-san", she calls "him" her oshi.

Words have meaning. If the author used oshi, it's for a reason.

Fangirling on an oshi doesn't mean you want to date them.

Other than that, there's NO romance in there and people who think they'll start dating after the cat is out of the bag are probably going to be disappointed.

I'll bet on an open ending with them getting closer and what happens next will be up to the readers imagination.

last edited at Jun 28, 2022 10:09AM

And here I was almost lynched because I suggested they might just be friends in the end.

Looks like it's what the author is going for and I'm being vindicated.

Masina posted:

I never did ask..which magazine is this manga being serialized?

This has no physical or digital releases as volumes. This is published on comic-web NewType, at a chapter per month.

This scanlator releases it usually a couple days after it comes out.

Hum... While the Tengu theme looks interesting, it's kinda confusing and kinda bland at the same time.

I feel like I've seen that plot in other settings.

And the art is both nice and art to read.

last edited at Jun 25, 2022 4:14AM

Ke_Zukulenzia posted:

Here, clearly, she thinks her "oshi" is an older boy.

Does she actually calls Mitsuki her "oshi" in the Japanese original?

Yes.

takachi posted:

I believe somebody mentioned above that she's using oniisan, which is not exactly he.

How exactly is that not exactly "he"?

how exactly is that "he"? :)

As said above, it's an address to an older boy. Only.

If the author had wanted to stay ambiguous about what gender she thought Mizuki is, they would have used "that person" (ano hito), "that shop attendant", or something neutral. Japanese can go a long way without mentioning the gender of who you're talking about.

Here, clearly, she thinks her "oshi" is an older boy.

Masina posted:

Should I put in spoilers? I have no idea when the scanlation will be uploaded, but we are now 4 chapters behind.

Don't. At best you're spoiling people who didn't ask (because people being curious will click on black bars), at worst you're misleading them because you misinterpreted something.

Honestly, as a scanlator, I'd loathe people who say "I've read the raws and this is what happens", even when the scanlator is behind, because it's demotivating.

If you really know Japanese, translate and scanlate unreleased series, join a group, whatever. Everyone will thank you.

Here, you're just annoying actual translators.

last edited at Jun 20, 2022 4:16AM

The translation gets weirder and weirder.

Can't make head or tail of what's going on.

LackLustre09721 posted:

Bruh, she gave me 2nd hand embarrassment, wtf was she even talking about lmao, her speech wasn't even related to the enthusiasm about being the student council.

Bruh, she was supposed to explain why she nominated Misaki. Learn to read.

uncertain posted:

The Twitter post seems to say these illustrations predate the manga itself? So rather than a mistake it might be just things changing along the way.

No. If you look at the twitter post, the ears are incorrectly labeled.

Not because of the piercings, but because of the shape.

Garun's stuff is always cute and wholesome.

No need to try to find some hidden intent.

Yeon202 posted:

Ngl I didn't think the train would start derailing this early on

YMMV.

On the contrary, I think the train is going full steam ahead.

saizon posted:

You know, I was on-board with Saori x Shizuku because of how they were taking their time with it, but now that it's clear Saori has the same habit as Iori with hitting their partner to show affection, I kinda lost interest. Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand how violently hitting your partner is supposed to show affection, especially when your partner comes from a background where violence was regularly inflicted on them in traumatic ways.

Guess I'll stick to Heke x Shinohara, then.

It's the whole series gimmick since the beginning. Even Heke x Shinohara have some moments where Shinohara smacks Heke.

The only couple with no violence at all is the Kujou x Sugimoto one (but they have other issues).

As for Shizuku, the first time she shows up, she literally uses violence on Minami.

It's supposed to be used for comedic effect, but also to show that the characters have difficulties expressing their love in other ways, because their experience of love was skewed from the beginning.

I can understand some people feel uncomfortable with it, but at this point, they should know that's how the series rolls and so ignore it if it pains them.

last edited at Jun 6, 2022 8:06AM

johnb posted:

I'm pretty sure if you start a new relationship before you officially end your previous one, it's still considered cheating.

But did they start a relationship, or was it a kiss in the heat of the moment and reality will hit Kashiwai when she gets home? You'll notice she had the feeling to be in a dream. It was totally uncontrollable for her.

Next chapter will tell us.

However I don't think poor Jun sees this coming, and Kashiwai is just adding insult to injury, by acting on her feelings for Tsuzuki before having a heart to heart with him. She was having doubts about her feelings for Jun, before she even met Tsuzuki. If Kashiwai had been honest with him then this might not blind side him so badly.

She doesn't feel a raging love for Jun, but it's not like she dislikes him. Rather than having doubts, or lacking feelings for Jun, I think she lacked enthusiasm at the prospect of their future life. A life where everything is planned according to what society expects. Some people relish it. Some people feel prisoner of it.

The first pages of the first chapter are just that: they show that she likes him, just not passionately. Obviously, she didn't see any valid reason to break up with him before meeting Tsuzuki.

It be fair Kashiwai's attraction to another woman has apparently taken her by surprise, and it was just a kiss in the heat of the moment. So I don't think it's a terrible act of betrayal, or anything like that. I just think she's being a bit unfair to Jun. Buy hay who said love was fair.

Life is unfair.

johnb posted:
I think your significant other cheating on you because they simply found someone they are more in love with is the hardest to take. It leaves you heartbroken, and there is nothing to do but to let them go and wish them well. All the while trying not to turn bitter about it.

There's cheating and there's finding someone you love more. Cheating, in my opinion, is when someone is keeping two (or more) romantic relationships going with some parties not aware of it. There's cheating when there's deception.

What you described is a breakup, not cheating. There can be clean breakups with mutual understanding, there can be messy breakups with people hurt, but if everyone is honest, such is life and nobody can judge anyone.

But if there's deception (on either or both sides), then you can form an opinion (sometimes, deception can be justified in case of a violent partner, for example).

And I may be wrong, but I think being poly doesn't give you open permission to just screw around with anyone you want. I'm pretty sure you're suppose to discuss bringing in someone new with your current lovers, before you begin the relationship. I guess it's possible Tsuzuki could have already discussed it with her lovers though.

It goes without saying that I didn't mean Tsuzuki couldn't cheat on her partners. I meant that she could, in all logic, continue dating her two lovers AND Kashiwai without being guilty of cheating, as long as everyone involved knows about it.

Tbh, in all this, I'm afraid the one who will get the short end of the stick is poor Jun. He doesn't know what's coming and he's not prepared for it, contrary to Hiroki and Fukunaga.

I wonder if we'll get a chapter from his pov.

last edited at Jun 4, 2022 6:25AM

Depending on how it goes, there may not be actual cheating. Like, if next chapter she comes clean and breaks up with Jun right away, I wouldn't call it cheating.

It's just that she was swept away by a storm of love in a single day. She was hesitant, but then just gave up and followed her heart. It's obviously an instant love, an "act of God" like Tsuzuki put it.

Now, it can't be said that Tsuzuki is cheating: she's poly, so her partners expect her to have other partners. Though it'll be awkward at work for Kashiwai if they come clean.

In the end, I don't think the "cheating" in this case is bad, because Kashiwai, before that, was just going through the motions and while she didn't hate Jun, the love wasn't burning brightly. Now that she found someone her heart beats for, it's entirely normal that she pursues her "true love". The bad would be if she keeps on stringing Jun along and follows up on their wedding without saying anything.

But... I think it won't be that simple. There's so much pressure around (getting married to her bf is what everyone expects from her), I'm not sure Kashiwai is reading to take it.

Tbh, I'm excited to read what's coming. I love characters with strong emotions and taken by storms of drama and inner conflicts.

Will Kashiwai break up with her boyfriend? Will Tsuzuki go ahead with her wedding plans too? Will she ever get jealous now that she found "true love"?

So much potential for drama and blood on the walls (and for a lively comment section).

Thank you for translating this!

I may be mistaken, but I kinda felt a hint of jealousy, when Tsuzuki mentioned Kashiwai's boyfriend... "I'm sure your boyfriend is waiting for you at home..." was kind of a jab and sounded a bit bitter, because Kashiwai held back.

But on the other hand, Tsuzuki looks taken aback by the sudden "lunge forward" Kashiwai took at the end.

last edited at Jun 3, 2022 5:31PM

17hunter00 posted:

Why the sudden bdsm final

Why not?

GopnikAdora posted:

Next, comes Asako's ex?

Did I miss something? I didn't see anything that would suggest this?

Pure speculation.

She's obviously a trauma for Asako, so I guess it'll be addressed at some point.

From how the story has moved until now, I don't think there will be any heavy drama.

In 11 chapters, each time there was a hint of drama, it was resolved in at most a chapter and it turned out to be no real drama.

So, if there's any actual romance between Asako and Miyako, it'll probably be a slow-burn, with a lot of slices of life in between.

Next, comes Asako's ex?

last edited at Jun 1, 2022 8:05AM

*Rolls eyes*

My final take on this is that, as it is, they would make great friends and there's absolutely no need to make it a romance at all costs.

Mitsuki has no friends at all, Aya has no friends who share her taste in music, so, once the misunderstanding gets resolved, I can envision them become BFFs, not a couple. But it's not impossible they become a couple, since the mangaka is a yuri author. So there's that.

Some manga here were more explicitly romantic, but they only deserved the Subtext tag.

And we're on Dynasty, so people would ship appliances and make them fuck if it was suggested they are female, so whatever.

last edited at May 31, 2022 2:25AM

revkar posted:

I won't delve too much into that, because it's without end, but you can't put people in little boxes and label them.

If you want to read the subconscious of manga characters, sure, go ahead, but it's a bit fruitless.

I mean assuming they're both straight instead of considering the possibility they aren't is, putting them in little boxes lol.

Hello? I said "in real life". In real life, lots of people are heterosexual you know. Not especially attracted to the same sex, but rather by the opposite sex. They are more numerous than you think.

For these characters, I don't assume anything, since the story isn't over. I just mentioned that there's no indication that any of them is/was into girls.

Even the reverse for Aya: she's into guys until she magically gets into girls because plot.

IAKi100atT posted:

You know, in the real world, once she finds out it's a female classmate, Aya would eventually just befriend her and drop the idea of a romantic encounter right?

There's no indication that either Aya or Mitsuki are romantically intereted in women. They just seem to have similar taste in music.

But it's a manga, so, sure, anyone can suddenly have an epiphany and be "if it's you, it's OK".

gay people are a myth, like wizards and unicorns

Come on, it's not what I mean.

I won't delve too much into that, because it's without end, but you can't put people in little boxes and label them.

If you want to read the subconscious of manga characters, sure, go ahead, but it's a bit fruitless.