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It's usually pretty obvious the moment the news drops on the mangaka. Reading through a series you can pretty much point to the exact chapter the author found out. What's so messed up is how often I see the mad scramble begin like 3 chapters from the series end. Outside of some episodic slice of life 4 komas, how is a creator expected to pen an even half way decent ending to a series in 3 or 4 chapters? Sometimes the manga isn't even to the mid point of it's current story arc let alone the over arching plot as a whole.
I'm not saying I like it, but sadly that's how manga industry (and honestly most industries) works. It's all about profit. Manga isn't supposed to end. It's supposed to go on forever. If it goes on forever then it brings money, but when it ends it means it won't bring more money, so only time manga is allowed to end is when it's no longer profitable and then who cares how it ends? Simply put, most of manga publisher don't give a fuck about manga's ending.
It's rare when author start writing having idea for ending or is given definite number of volumes to tell their stories. From storytelling perspective, writing something where you had time to think through your story and/or know how long you have so you can plan accordingly is obviously better and allows you for better overall product that will last longer and might be enjoyed in the future. But manga industry doesn't care about future profit, they only care about what they can get now. Manga ending on good note and being still bought few years in the future and fondly remembered is secondary to bringing money now. It's especially annoying when series had a conclusive ending, but then was forced to continue and had to retcon plot threads that were already closed but then it wasn't as popular anymore, so it got axed and now author had to make less conclusive and much less satisfying ending with now some open, unfinished threads.
Still I'm still curious how the hell it's not popular/profitable enough to be continued if it really gets axed.
and they avoided ban for years.
It sure took long... I often wondered about that...
For all the complaining about how site is biased and what not, it really is curious that BD avoided ban for so long, exactly because staff was much more lenient than BD gave them credit. BD was pretty much the most often reported person and most stuff they did was already ban worthy, yet staff kept being reluctant of actually perma banning them and only give occasional 1 day or later 30 days bans. So it took few years for them to finally say, enough is enough and ban BD permanently, so it was really funny when then in their final message they were accusing site of being biased and irrational.
Some people were doing the file save at the very last minute, amusingly.
I figured there's no point. If the game will be ever back, NA will have our data. If it'll be private server, too much hassle and no real point.
Gallery mode is now accessible even with wifi on, for me at least. It was previously unavailable unless I put on airplane mode. What garbage, I'm tempted to say, but it's clear they did have to rework stuff. Who knows why. If I'm being charitable, it's possible there were issues with keeping all of the original assets, font, etc. on player side. If I'm being not charitable, this is total garbage and they could have just given us the actual archive.
I logged in yesterday to make sure i got all data so it will work and I was surprised that live model and all of art wasn't loading when I went into magical girl section of archive. I downloaded all the data and it was still working like that. I assume it was some kind of glitch, but i checked the "gallery mode" today and it works exactly the same. What a utter garbage. They didn't let us see our costumes or listen to voices, so art was like only other reason you would want to keep game on device and even that part doesn't work. It's literally useless, because at best only thing you can do in it is read girl's backstory. What a complete trash. Animeplex gave us middle finger.
And about letting us keep archive, I assume they didn't want to give us all necessary data so we can play it on our devices, because it'd give us access to their code or something and they were afraid of people getting access to game on other servers thanks to that knowledge. Or alternatively it was simply impossible to make game able to run on device or it'd take a lot of space. Whatever they case it was incredibly half-assed.
What I "love" the most is how greedy they were till the end, shutting down the game, but not shutting down ability to buy gems and making sure they can be used till almost the end? They really believed someone would still want to spend money once game was shutting down?
The worst part was that after logging first time in 2 months, I really did enjoy this game at start. If they weren't greedy asshole and just let us play at normal pace with 2 years gap between NA and JP, I bet this game would still be very successful. But that's capitalism for you. It's never ending upper ladder. Every time you cross new threshold on profit, anything bellow it, even if successful in its niche, is considered unprofitable and failure and cut down. That's why the bigger company is, the less creative and safer their investments are.
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Be careful--Bugdevil might possess your account & start posting again!
Unpopular opinion: I kinda miss 'em.
You sure you want someone who only argued for arguing sake and thought their own opinions are facts? They pretty much were set to convince everyone to their views, but themselves would never be convinced to anything. It was toxic for forum and they avoided ban for years.
#notdeadbtw
Gj!
I did watch 1 burn the witch ep, it looks alright.
It was pretty good and even has yuri in it. I made post about it in Anime thread.
I kind of want to reach 666 posts by tomorrow in celebration of Halloween
You need to start spamming then.
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Like the 1st one is talking about how you have to clear Suzuran's stage without letting the enemy take control of any of the devices.
Lol. I cleared that one before I even read those clues. My guess was that I'm supposed to just use Suzuran's ability once and when I played it I happened to use her ability once just to see how it looks. Now I realized it was in my first attempt and when I was playing it later I didn't use her skill, but since I happened to not let them take over the device it was fine. If not for that I'd probably not figure it out. The same with kill 20 colossus (clearing it accidentally, this one was easy to figure out). I just got it farming TW-8.
Same here, except I got a duplicate Nightmare. Sad that I didn’t even get Click...
I got Click with first roll and had to spend all 10 rolls to get second copy of Nightmare as well. Dropping Ptilopsis from banner would be neat so I don't have to buy her from shop, but also I really want to get Projekt Red, so I'd actually prefer to drop her and then I can buy Ptilopsis.
EDIT/ Lol and now I got support and medic tags so I can get either Warfarin or Ptilopsis. I also got vanguard so I could get Zima, who I don't have yet. Since I might get Warfarin dupe (which wouldn't be bad) I guess I'll go for Zima. Even got her skin last time.
Fuck that diary entry telling you to beat the Mudrock stage with only 6 operators. If I didn't have Mayer and Magallan, I would've been fucked otherwise. Even then I barely 3 starred it near the end, thank god for Mayer's robots and Projekt Red.
I was wondering how the hell I'm supposed to kill Mudrock normally, but then I remembered I got Eyja and dropped volcano on Mudrock's head. Also I'm not sure if I'd realize myself it talks about stage with Mudrock, cos I didn't read story yet, so didn't know they're Sarkaz.
last edited at Oct 30, 2020 5:11PM
CW: Majorly depressing shit, suicide.
There was this one episode of a show called Shigofumi that I watched recently. This one guy blogs on a forum about a guy in his class getting bullied and laughs about it with all the other posters. Then he realizes that the guy being bullied is one of the posters too. The victim recognizes him and asks him to help at school, but the guy just tells him that he can't do anything, and the victim eventually kills himself out of sheer despair.
Then they reveal that the bullies saw the victim talking to the original guy for like five seconds, and decided that since he was the victim's 'friend', he ought to be next in line for bullying. The guy being bullied is handsome, popular, gets good grades and largely well-liked, but nobody wants to piss the bully clique off, so they ostracize him. He starts blogging on the same forum, and realizes that no one on the Internet or in real life cares. Someone's gotta be the scapegoat, and no one wants to take his place.
The episode basically wraps up with the bullies making the original guy walk around on the edge of a roof, which has a high chance of getting him killed. He realizes that there's no way to run, no way to back out, because they'll be hounding him for every second of the rest of his school life. If he complies, they'll keep coming up with new ways to torture him. If he gets used to it, they'll escalate the punishments to get a reaction. The guy realizes that there's no way out, snaps, and stabs one of the bullies with a screwdriver. They put him in juvie and the implication is that his life is ruined, because Japan ostracizes the heck out of anyone with a minor criminal record, so a murderer would never be able to get a job or achieve anything resembling a stable, ordinary life. But even though he's got no future, his actions are presented as justified, because there was no hope for him anyway, so at least he got some catharsis. He realized that relying on logic or negotiation or authority figures wouldn't do anything, because nobody wanted to get involved with him and would just turn a blind eye. He's already seen what happened to the former victim, and decides to kill instead of being killed. Basically, he becomes an animal, because there was no place for him in an apathetic society.
It really drove in how absolutely hellish bullying can be, particularly in Japan, where it seems like ritualised abuse. There's no perfect solution, no ray of hope, no saviors- just a choice between two different kinds of hell. It was pretty bleak, but I honestly couldn't call it unrealistic, because I've seen people in similar situations and read stories about how they just... broke. Bullying is a problem that's pretty hard to solve, seeing as it stems from immature kids channeling the worst parts of human nature, but that's exactly why people need to take every possible effort to keep an eye out and combat it.
Shigofumi! But yea, that's the reason why bullying is so horrible. Bullies don't need a reason to bully someone and they'll just find anything to justify it. And it's especially nasty in Japan, because of their culture of shame and everything revolving around being useful to society. Kids from young age are forced to study hard with expectations to go to best school and find great job they'll spend their entire life in working for country and being good, productive citizens. Individuality is forbidden as per "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down" proverb. On top of all that since middle school kids are expected to go to cram schools. It doesn't matter if you actually do good in school or not, if you didn't go to cram school, people will look down on you as lazy and/or arrogant. So kids are incredibly stressed so then they find a way to relief that stress and so someone in class is picked for bullying. Teachers turn blind eye to it because 1. they know it will make rest of kids behave and it's better overall for class (society) as a whole and 2. because risking police or some authorities learning about it, would mean that media/society would learn about it tarnishing the good name of school and ruining its reputation and they can't allowed that to happen. So yes, when you're being bullied unless you do something extreme to scare bullies off it will never end. And even in countries that it's not as extreme as in Japan it's still bs, because no matter what you do, bullies at best will just get slap on the hands and then they'll just go back to bullying you even harder in "revenge" and "payback" for what you did to them. Talking to teachers or authorities and lecturing bullies does nothing. And they never hurt you enough for it to become a problem. But if you fight back and hurt them, then it'll be you who gets punished or in best case scenario you both will have to take responsibility equally. Society just doesn't give a fuck about people being bullied and you have no tools to fight it without also cutting yourself from society. You're doing everything you can to survive and yet you're being see as the one who went overboard and judged for it.
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A trans women and a man is absolutely not yaoi nor is it homosexuality of any sort
I don't think it's that cut and dried, but depending on the individual couple we're in really muddy waters. I'd say as long as the genitals of both parties are still male, it does constitute homosexual acts (not necessarily homoeroticism, though) from a purely biological perspective, not in terms of gender, and as soon as genitals are altered, we have a constellation that we don't really have words for yet. Definitions of the terms may also adapt over time, but as things are right now, biology and physiology is still an important factor.
No. All that matter is their gender. Biological sex is irrelevant. I'm giving you a fair warning, this side takes stuff like this incredibly seriously, so if you want to avoid perma ban, you should better rethink what you said, before you'll post another comment on this topic. And from my personal opinion what you just said was extremely insulting.
Okay but can we appreciate that the siblings are a tomboy and a femboy
Assuming that Naru isn't actually trans, yes.
And you just contradicted yourself. So if Naru was trans, they wouldn't be femboy? I thought gender didn't matter for those things.
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Btw, they removed both the Yuri and Shoujo-ai tag recently, I'm happy, but I wonder what caused that to happen.
Most likely angry people complaining that it's not yuri and feeling mislead.
Time for another re-read!
I love this manga, and I've reread it so many times, but I always get put off by the accidental trans subtext of Yae. It's really frustrating watching a character that seems... Pretty aggressively dysphoric just get handwaved as having a deep seated complex related to their attraction to women. Yae says at multiple points they wish they were born a boy, is deeply uncomfortable when they're referred to as girly and especially when their boobs get emphasized, and is absolutely pissed when it's assumed they're not the "man in the relationship", and the list goes on. (THEY LITERALLY BIND AT THE START) As a trans person, it makes a hot story that I really like pretty hard to read when the mangaka sets that up only to justify it away.
I really only have great things to say about Hanjuku Joshi otherwise, which makes that a huge shame.
Hmm, I honestly never thought to look at it thru that perspective. I am cis-female and I felt the same way as Yae at that age, so I suppose it could be seen from various angles?
I think Yae is more somewhere in the middle. If you look at this:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hanjuku_joshi_ch03#13
you see that it isn't just as straight-forward as "I want to be a boy". More, those feelings are shown later to be at least partially from a broken heart, so it may be more of a self-image thing than actually being trans. I'm no expert, of course, but that was my thought..
I never saw anything wrong with it. Yae is a girl during puberty that has complex about her body and is also a lesbian adding to the confusing feelings she's experiencing. After all thanks to media and conservatives, when you love someone of the same sex, your first thought will be that you should be opposite sex to be with them, not that lesbians exist. Because Yae liked girls, she felt like it was something wrong with her. Chitose might have been a bit rough and invaded her space, but ultimately she had good intention and helped Yae opened up. She noticed that Yae was binding her chest and hurting herself in the process, so she confronted her in a way she couldn't avoid. I'm not going to say that because Chitose is also a girl she was allowed to do it, but if she didn't, Yae might still live in self-denial. All in all being unsure about your gender and exploring yourself, especially after experiencing prejudice and discrimination due feelings different than "norm" as a kid is not unique to trans people. Many girls feel like being men would be easier or don't feel comfortable with their bodies, but later grow out from it. That's why while it's important, it's hard to decided when someone is really trans and when they're just feeling pressured and while allowing trans person to start hormone therapy young is great, it's equally important to make sure you're not forcing something on child that they might realize they don't want years later or worse, only after they'd already went through surgery.
The overall message of the manga is that it's fine to like girls while being a girl and that they like girls because they're girls, so while I agree beginning might seem misleading as if Yae was trans, it's actually part of exploration of her identity and those themes leading to ultimate conclusion that she's fine the way she is.
We have to remember when this was made. If it was done today, it might certainly seem a bit tone-deaf. But considering back then gay-marriage was a big issue, I don't think the author meant to have such implications.
It sounds like gay-marriage is not a issue anymore? In America, sure, but in most of the world, especially in Japan, it's still a big issue.
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You posted in wrong thread, it's not what manga it is. Also sorry, don't know.
"New" limited op: Rosmonthis. Guess she lives apparently
Then maybe there's chance for FrostNova. Also damn that fight was bs. I finally finished chapter 6 and for the first time I had to use support to beat it and I dirtied my hands using SA. Killing first time was easy, second time was a nightmare and I was seriously lost how to do it. The 2 guides I saw was for either using Exusiai with S3 or SilverAsh. Mine isn't E2 yet and nobody in support had her on S3 so I had to use SilverDaddy.
On story side, I really liked it and it was ful of emotions. You really could sympathize with FrostNova and her squad. Only really issue I had was that amnesia Doctor really felt out of place here. Like we have all this tragic narrative and FrostNova is spilling their guts out to some person that doesn't even really understand the situation. It'd be much stronger if it was Amiya or Doctor pre-amnesia that actually had some history with them.
Also I got to Amiya's age and 1 Reunion member said she was like 16-17 and then other corrected her it was more like 14. And even Amiya herself makes a comment she still wants to grow taller. I understand that not all information we're given has to turn out to be true, but lying to audience is very delicate art and considering the entire chapter is about even children suffering and being dragged into Infected war as well as most of Reunion members here are still children themselves, I'd say there's no reason to doubt their assessment of Amiya's age.
Why I'm not surprised. Of course they'd turn mascot of Guardknights into Guard.
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Why was that used as the tab icon? Seems random.
2 girls kissing? Seems fitting for me.
Wow Munou na Nana (Talentless Nana) is amazing. Bait and switch in first episode is easily of Madoka proportions. There's no yuri, but anyone who wants to watch something fresh (and don't mind dark show) should definitely give it a shot. I'm enjoying it a lot so far.
Can our cat keep everyone happy or will she die crying?
FTFY
No bulli Jessica!
Somebody actually translated chapter 2, it's on mangadex.
Because people have been doing exactly that to any post where I put more than one paragraph, I was restricting my responses.
Ok, now that's just straight bullshit. You kept using as your main argument that the story was never about Uta's unrequited love and so people kept disagreeing with that fact. It's the entire crux of your argument, so if we can't agree on that, talking about anything else is pointless. And even then, you have pages upon pages of history of people trying to explain exactly how and why the story is flawed, even as recently as last pages. People addressed all your arguments. You simply always disagreed and repeated the same exact argument in longer or shorter form.
I have challenged people repeatedly to explain how (other than reader projection) the question of a real concrete relationship (or not) between Kaoru and Uta could be a central theme
I repeatedly said that entire premise is based on the fact that Uta suffers, because she loves Kaoru and knows she can't be together with her. Yes, there's character growth and change of perspective both from Uta and Kaoru, I'm not denying it. But that doesn't change the fact that source of Uta's angst is wanting to be with Kaoru. She tried to distance herself from her, because being together when she knew she'll never be together with her was too painful. As many people said over and over, they finally maturing and growing as a people was first step of the story. We finally got to the point where they can actually work out their feelings together. Something that was completely skipped by the author and they just jumped right to the point where everything was solved and then again to when they live together. The answer to what's their relationship now, the entire reason we read the damn thing, is missing. And if they really just live together again, but Uta is fine simply loving Kaoru and Kaoru still sees her as her younger sister, then fine, that's some conclusion (which again, author did not bother to confirm nor deny), but then it's also not exactly satisfying ending after all this drama. Again, the whole issue people have is that we don't know how exactly they got to the point we see them at the end and what this exactly mean for their relationship. Relationship that was the fucking center focus of entire manga. And if you tell me it was actually about Kaoru's marriage to Reiichi or something, I'll probably lose it.
Not to mention the related point, also repeatedly raised - Uta and Kaoru started the story being tortured by their feelings, and ended the story having come to terms with their own feelings and eachothers - how is that not a resolution?
Going from what I wrote above and what many people said. Actually leaving it at the point where chapter 36 ends or even after first time skip would work out much better as ambiguous, open ending. If author would leave it at that point, it could work without addressing anything. We know at this point they live separately, Uta is still hoping it can work in the future and Kaoru is putting her life together. It leaves future up to interpretation, but on hopeful note. The issue is those last few pages completely shoehorned in, implying that they got together later, but at the point we last saw them, it wasn't a logical leap to assume. Again, the main issue is people wanted to see how they eventually work out their issue and get together or part ways. We kinda got both as well as in the end we don't even know what this ending is supposed to mean. If author ended series on chapter 36, it wouldn't be exactly satisfying, but at least it wouldn't be confusing.
The writing has not been perfect. My central theme over and over again is that it is more useful to see the quality of the work as a nuanced multidimensional whole - an aggregate of strengths and weaknesses, successes and failures of storytelling, rather than to write off a flawed work as "bad writing".
Again, you're being dishonest. Of course that's normal. That's how all critic works. If you criticize entire work, you sum up all that was good and bad. The thing is everyone who is criticizing the ending also criticized the rest of the work and said the ending is the clear outcome of all the work that proceeded it. Most people who only complain about the ending only have issue with the ending. They read rest of the work more or less enjoying it or not finding any too big issues with it. Their only problem is ending. But people like us who are arguing with you right now always talked about other aspects of the work and for us ending is just part of the problem why entire work was badly written. Again, author was clearly setting up for a slow burn and since they introduced the whole Reiichi doesn't love Kaoru and they divorce, was setting up that they'd eventually end up together. And then they never really showed how it happened. If they really just wanted to leave it unrequited and about emotional growth, they why make Reiichi a bad husband? Making him great husband and Kaoru being in loving relationship would only strengthen the drama of Uta's love. Why divorce them giving readers hope to then completely disregard this element?
For many of us the strengths in this work outweigh the weaknesses - it is positive for us, "good", even if not perfectly so. Perhaps for you it isn't. That doesn't mean one person's taste is better than another, it means they are different.
And that's where you finally admit you misunderstood our arguments completely and we talk about 2 entire different things. Nobody ever told you that you're not allowed to enjoy it. Hell, nobody told you liking something bad is wrong. For fuck's sake, I even said in my recent posts that there's nothing wrong with liking something bad. It's you who conflates liking something with that thing being good. You're the one who considers themselves superior, that you couldn't possibly like something bad, therefore it must be good. We never talked about taste. Like whatever you like. We always talked about overall quality of the work. Not the enjoyment you can take from it. It's perfectly normal to enjoy something despite it's flaws. I like many things, while admitting that they're not perfect or have some serious issues. You can disagree that those are flaws, but don't deny them just because you like the work, so there can't be anything wrong with it.
Good, bad, strong, weak, succeed, fail - they can all only be judged in context, with a purpose, and everybody's context is different; some things work broadly, some things fail broadly but nothing is universal. People weight different points differently, have differing assessments of a particular point, and don't even use the same set of set of points.
We got it. Everything is subjective. No need to look down on us and be condescending assuming we're too stupid to understand that.
Popularity/success of a work is a strong indication that it has "worked" for many people, that in their contexts it did something right.
Yea, again something I already explained, but you kindly completely ignored it. You seem to fail to understand that people get invested into works. Good premise or likable characters is really all most people need to read the work till the end. Once you get people hooked you need to work really hard to loose them. Hell, even if your work goes completely to shit, many will keep on reading just because they're invested at this point, want to see how the thing will end for themselves or simply feel that all the time and emotions they put into reading it would go to waste if they dropped it now. Again, something I already addressed in my recent posts and you clearly didn't read or didn't bother to address.
The experience of different people reading the same work is connected, but also unique - that's fandom in all its ugly splendor.
That's the biggest nothing statement of this post so far.
I'm going to risk an analogy, even though they always seem to bite me in the ass. Let's talk about fun.
I expect there are a lot of neurodiverse people here (it is a forum for a web manga site after all; if you aren't, you know someone who is).
As a neurodiverse person Imagine some kind happy party-going extrovert butting in on whatever you are enjoying doing and telling you that you need to get out and have some fun. Imagine that well-intentioned but clueless bastard thinking they have the universal and exclusive definition of what "real" fun is.Now imagine they are confidently asserting that the thing you enjoy is "bad" because it doesn't meet their expectations of it.
Again, nobody told you you can't have fun. Something being bad doesn't exclude you from enjoying it or having fun with it.
By all means talk about what does and doesn't work for you, but don't presume that people who perceive things differently are wrong or blind.
If you perceive things differently that's fine. We can talk and disagree about that. It's all lost the moment you say stuff like "I liked it so it must have been good" and feel like calling a work you liked bad is somehow a attack on you persona and your enjoyment of the work.
I knew talking to you is a waste of time, but I tried it anyway, but now I see it wasn't worth my time. This is last post from me, if you still don't get it, then it's not my problem.
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it is also somewhat infuriating just how bare bones and incompetent gallery mode is.
Lol, indeed.
If the purpose of writing is communication, the author did a piss-poor job of delivering that communication, because no one knows exactly what happened at the end of this "story." It doesn't matter how many people purchase a bucket of shit for $9.99, it's still a bucket of shit.
But it is probably good shit, if you are growing roses it might be just what you want. If you put it in your sandwich, then complain about it being shit, then that says more about you.
I love how you give up on addressing all the arguments that completely invalidate yours and choose to reply to easiest to refute.
Finding Jessica Lambert posted:
Finding Jessica Lambert posted:
Some people feel safe to love someone who won't reciprocate their feelings
Except Uta wanted her feelings to be reciprocated, that's why she was agonizing over them.
It's called a wishful thinking :)
Rotfl. If Uta was ok with just loving Kaoru, because she knew she won't reciprocate her feelings then she wouldn't be suffering living in the same house as her, interacting with her knowing she's married, eventually confessing to her and after being rejected moving out, despite later saying she wants to live together with her, but she can't while her relationship with Kaoru is the way it is. Entire story would literally not happen and Uta would just keep living with Kaoru and Reiichi, completely content with her life.
And, there is one detail, Uta is blushing at the door. Could they possibly be lovers already, at that time?
Ending depends on reader, I think.
No shit. That's exactly the reason everyone is pissed. Because author left it up to readers.
Finding Jessica Lambert posted:
Some people feel safe to love someone who won't reciprocate their feelings
Except Uta wanted her feelings to be reciprocated, that's why she was agonizing over them.
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And “good” or “successful” isn’t an either/or binary
There's plenty of series that are incredibly well-written and good, but only appeal to very small minority of people, hence are not really popular. They could even get axed because of that reason. Meanwhile you have plenty of average and bad stories that people get invested in and they're dragged into oblivion and consider major monetary success. Most readers are really simple to please. Just look at anime scene in general. We keep complaining most anime is poorly made trash, yet they keep churning them out every season, because people watch them regardless.
I do get tired of my analysis of narrative construction and characterization getting dismissed as mere disappointed shipping and a desire for fanservice.
I honestly find it insulting that asking for author to actually address the main conflict that was presented from chapter 1 is somehow considered fanservice and demanding.
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I really can't get my mind around the fact that yuri harem isn't a thing in anime. I mean, we basically got all kinds of tropes and genres in anime, yet not a single yuri harem anime. I'm depressed.
Yuri is not popular in anime, at most you have some Yuri subplot or subtext and that's all.
^
Its sad af
Times actually finally changed and we're starting to get pure yuri anime again.
So the entire editorial staff at Yuri Hime are sado-masochists blowing money on a useless series solely to torture their readership?
What a bizarre strawman. The magazine ultimately only cares about sales ergo audience opinion, and the paying public notoriously happily swallows much worse.
like CitrusThe entire purpose of writing is to communicate with the audience, the idea that writing can be popular but bad is a complete oxymoron, founded in a superiority complex.
edit: eg I may loathe popular reality television, but I'm not going to pretend it isn't an effective implementation of what it is.
Rotfl. And here we finally go with "it's popular so it's good". Sorry, but just because something is popular it doesn't mean it's good. People might watch something, but by no means it means it's well executed. People are allowed to like bad things, you know? Most people are not very critical and are happy with very simple stuff. It's very easy to catch audience attention and expectation and you need to work really hard to lose them. The amount of works on dynasty that people come to post hateful comments every time new chapter is updated is proof of that. People get invested in works whatever their quality is good or bad. I bet main reason a lot of readers kept reading MUL was exactly the need for closure and seeing the outcome for themselves. Something that author did not give us. That's why you see dozens of people who didn't take active part in discussion before voicing their disbelief "that's how the series ended?" now. There's plethora of ways to make people want to read next chapter, regardless if the story itself is good or not and MUL often resolved to those tactics (leaving plot threads hanging without resolution, forcing readers to keep on reading if they want to know the outcome) Seriously, if you still don't understand it then you simply how no clue how storytelling works.
Also you're assuming that terrible editors do not exist. Editors are also people and they can make work better as much as they can make it worse. Mangakas having fights and not getting along with their editors is pretty common thing.
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A little goal oriented aren't we?
No clue where you got that from.
tmnr has managed to tell a gripping emotional story, and while it is a bit rough in places and the ending wasn't great, the nett experience is positive so I'm reluctant to call it bad.
You won't convince me that author that makes main character confess her love at the end of last chapter of the volume and then only in second chapter of next volume tells us how MC's unrequited crush reacted with just half page of flashbacks and narration is writing a good gripping emotional story. Leaving readers hanging and grasping for resolution for anything was a hallmark of this series. This author has no clue how to explore anything. Author of Hanigare do.
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