People unironically defending lesbian "conversion" art IN a yuri site? It's more likely than you think!

Junko is like 3 feet taller than Hecatia here

^Part of artistic freedom means that content you don't personally like is going to exist. If the creator doesn't make a fuss and they aren't trying to push a message, then just move on like the rest of us. Otherwise, you're nothing but one of those "stop liking things I don't" killjoys that ruin fan spaces.

And part of said "freedom" is calling out the problematic shit those artists make. It's not a matter of "ow they made art I don't like" my guy, it's bigger than that, it's literally homophobia. Go to any of those arts, specially the one from the artist you defend so much, go to the comments and tell me there's not any homophobia there.

Like I said those arts don't come from a positive place, they were made with the intent of pissing off lesbians and you defending homophobic arts and artists in a place that many consider a safe space for lgbt people is disgusting my dude.

i thought ppl were actively going against the weird artists putting caelus with bronya or seele wdym there was silence? /gen

I mean, there may certainly be artists who do this kind of thing out of malice, but that does not mean all of them are like that. Just as you have the right to ship canonically straight characters in queer ships, everyone has the right to ship whatever characters they like in whatever ships they prefer. Not out of hate, but simply because they like the characters and their interactions, regardless of their canon status, just like a lot of the stuff here does. Might not be to your (or, to be honest, my) taste, but that's simply how shipping works.

assertive claire ^p^

^The great majority of those arts were made to piss off lesbians. Basically, a dude made art of Caelus between Bronya and Seele and tagged it Bronseele, so that lesbians could see it. People got angry and in retaliation lots of artists started making art of Caelus having threesomes with Bronya and Seele. It was purely out of spite and full of malice. It wasn't a cute art of a ship that was misinterpreted, it straight up depicted a dude converting two lesbians.

It blows my mind how someone can defend that shit, specially in a place like Dynasty.

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cute

^^^^The existence of homophobic comments about a work does not mean that the creator intended their work to be homophobic. If it worked like that, the conservative commentary about 1984 would make you think it was written by Ayn Rand herself. Also, you are still presuming the intentions of ALL creators based on how SOME act. Are you genuinely unable to think of why someone would make problematic content for reasons other than pure malice?

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and then came the guy with the frog head and a meteor staff

^Also, I'm not defending tagging their ship name or making art to piss people off, and explicitly called it homophobic to do so. I am talking about the general existence of the content matter itself.

Okay, people, stop fighting.

I declare SEM "Lesbians just haven't found the right dick yet" TEXT the winner of this epic argument lmaoo

@luinthoron No, actually. If an author erases a character's canonical sexuality they are being homophobic even if that wasn't their intention. Their homophobia should be called out and criticised even if it doesn't come from a place of malice

(Also, shipping straight characters in gay ships is not equivalent to the reverse. One is okay, the other is not.)

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^^I hope that was sarcastic, because I'd assume an artist that has sometimes featured "problematic" elements in their work would know the difference between depicting content artistically and endorsing doing it IRL.

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^this dude is really trying to argue with an actual yuri artist, just stop my dude. Go defend your lesbian conversion art somewhere else.

^Hey, I've just seen what happens when people start calling artists immoral just for including specific problematic content, and don't like being called a bigot for trying to prevent it.

^Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you have

"Canonically straight characters" is ridiculous LMFAO no one ever bothers to specifically have a character say "I am heterosexual" outside of like manhwa where they try to BL bait

I like Suika shipping.

Futa?

Shiori: "Itadakimasu~"

Buenos Dias Rei

@TctyaDDK: that entire doujin is great, thanks for linking it!