It's really unpleasant when the translator decides that he or she can and should change how the target language works.

Yeah smh who do they think they are >:(

It's probably not the best way to style it, but having "the" before a hotel name is technically optional (the Luxor, the Bellagio, The Venetian, Circus Circus, Great Wolf Lodge). I wouldn't call that changing the target language

Wait a second... you're the translator! Thanks for the anthology, it's great

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Yeah smh who do they think they are >:(

I don't know the answer to that. But “they” actually are a person of pretty much just the sort of which you'd imagine a Briton, American, or Canadian to be, if that person tried to pull the same crap with your language.

Yeah smh who do they think they are >:(

I don't know the answer to that. But “they” actually are a person of pretty much just the sort of which you'd imagine a Briton, American, or Canadian to be, if that person tried to pull the same crap with your language.

I'm so confused. What is this language crime that has been committed here?

I'm so confused. What is this language crime that has been committed here?

My interest here isn't in explaining the English language to people who have such a limited familiarity with it that they're not repeatedly jarred by this translation; nor do I want to square-off against passive-aggressive trolls.

My interest here isn't in explaining the English language to people

Mine is though, so I'll give it a go

I'm so confused. What is this language crime that has been committed here?

I'm a bit confused too, but I believe the issue is that in practice English speakers put "the" before hotel names when referring to them. So you'd say "I got a room at the DoubleTree" even though "the" isn't in the name of the hotel. There are some exceptions, but they're exceedingly rare. Which would make the criticism for this translation that "Hawaiians Hotel," the resort this story is set in, is never referred to as "the Hawaiians" and is instead simply "Hawaiians." Which sounds super Engrish. To double up on that, "Hawaiians Hotel" is a Japanese take on a hotel name, so it also sounds weird. I'd hardly square the blame on the translator for not renaming the hotel to "The Hawaiian" (the only viable option to avoid confusion with actual Hawaii), particularly because that would necessitate a redraw and typeset of the resort name on the hotel itself while being a substantial localization call

Also I wasn't trolling, the second post above is the translator

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Really weird thread... Thanks for the explanation attempt, Altair. It's a good and cute doujin.