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joined Mar 24, 2011

So Mira's been reading Asimov, huh.

Mira now aka Asimuff

time dilation being actually relevant implies interstellar travel slow and inconvenient enough to render the whole premise of shipping bulk raw materials over such distances quite ridiculous. Just mine your local system of reference instead - plenty of stuff in the asteroids and whatnots

Yeah, and we would've solved world hunger already if it weren't for money and capitalism. Maybe the rights to the asteroids are already in the hands of the highest bidder, and common folk have the choice between working for peanuts or searching for new mining grounds?

science babies and a gay-by-default cast is fun

Reminds me of Blue Drop...

last edited at Feb 13, 2020 11:58AM

Wolfsister%20cara
joined Feb 10, 2013

This proves that Mira is doing yuri hentai because she loves it. Her stories actually have an interesting plot. If she wanted she could create a SFW series and it would be a hit because of her creativity and imagination.

Not that I'm complaining. I love her porn with plot.

+1
Love the porn with plot. It's just the best. And Mira is the mistress of it all. XD

joined Jul 26, 2016

Yeah, and we would've solved world hunger already if it weren't for money and capitalism. Maybe the rights to the asteroids are already in the hands of the highest bidder, and common folk have the choice between working for peanuts or searching for new mining grounds?

"Common folk" do not engage in economically significant mining operations in the first place, even dirtside where the transportation and necessary technological infrastructure are altogether smaller headaches, so I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

Or what this has to do with what I was talking about to begin with since I was discussing the fundamentally questional viability of the whole idea of interstellar mining operations in light of what we're told about the available transportation technology of the setting. Who is supposed to be carrying it out isn't an overly important detail there, though it would seem obvious deep pockets plus the ability and willingness to sink truly awful amounts of money even getting the operation running and then wait for God knows how long for it to even start breaking even - if that even is possible - are necessary pre-requisites.

last edited at Feb 14, 2020 10:04AM

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

I do believe every story of the light sci-fi genre that combines space trade with FTL travel has the same problem. You leave your planet for an interstellar trading trip, and when you return, after what seemed like five weeks for you, twenty years have passed in your original planet -- thus making whatever you brought back probably unneeded and most certainly obsolete.

MST3K Mantra applies. We shouldn't wonder too much.

joined Jul 26, 2016

I do believe every story of the light sci-fi genre that combines space trade with FTL travel has the same problem. You leave your planet for an interstellar trading trip, and when you return, after what seemed like five weeks for you, twenty years have passed in your original planet -- thus making whatever you brought back probably unneeded and most certainly obsolete.

That depends entirely on the character of the FTL travel involved though. Many are functionally instantaneous or otherwise fast enough to involve no time-dilation effects of any relevance - depending on the particular assumptions of the setting it may indeed take longer to travel far enough from the local star's gravity to engage the FTL drive with conventional engines than cross the interstellar distance itself. (This kind of gravitational sensitivity is a relatively common trope and serves useful narrative purposes by eg. preventing invasion fleets from suddenly warping into the orbit of an in-system target or cheapo planet killers made by sending any old junker loaded with rocks hurtling towards a planet at Ludicrous Speed.)

Even then interstellar commercial shipping of high-bulk low-value cargo such as unrefined raw materials is still extremely economically suspect barring "magical" very cheap and convenient interstellar travel; more thought-out scenarios tend to revolve highly processed goods, whatever Unobtaniums the setting might have and information (which physically takes up no more space than the memory banks needed to store it) instead.

There are still plausible scenarios where it might be found necessary to transport certain forms of bulk cargo - supplies to remote outposts, parts and machinery to newly established colonies that can't yet fabricate all of their necessities on the scene, the logistical tails of military operations and so on - but the crucial point is that such shipping would not be inherently commercial and profit-seeking in nature but rather analogous to establishing and maintaining those Antarctic research stations or supporting overseas military expeditions IRL. Ie. something you deem important and/or necessary (or just cool and prestigious enough, depending, cough moon shots cough) enough to merit doing with surplus resources and the acceptance that you'll be way in the red; the purview of decently major and wealthy state governements not profit-seeking private sector actors (though the latter will be only too happy to get involved in any number of aspect for profit natch, the money spent has to go somewhere after all).

None of which conditions apply here, obviously. And even more egregiously the apparent business plan of the scavenger outfit Ayame signed up on is straight up Underpants Gnome levels of lolwut.

last edited at Feb 14, 2020 3:42PM

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

......

It's not that I don't appreciate a good, solid analysis of the fine points of universe-building in a sci-fi story that tackles the economics of space trade, but...

... did you read the last sentence in my previous message?

joined Jul 26, 2016

It was noted and duly ignored. o3o

(y)
joined Jan 9, 2017

The voyages were long, and your biological age would end up getting shifted compared to your actual age.

Mira bothered accounting for interstellar time dilation in a smut story? Now that's dedication.

That's also one of the wait-what parts of the setting I mentioned, as time dilation being actually relevant implies interstellar travel slow and inconvenient enough to render the whole premise of shipping bulk raw materials over such distances quite ridiculous. Just mine your local system of reference instead - plenty of stuff in the asteroids and whatnots, jeez.

To speak nothing of that half-baked mine scavenging business in the same context...

I have no idea how time dillation works. Does faster than light travel make you older or younger?

If you are prepared for "The Feels" then You could try giving "Tales of Distant star" a watch.

joined Mar 27, 2020

this is great! I am a big fan of SciFi and Yuri. I hope Mira will release new chapters soon

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joined Jan 11, 2019

Lol

DR2 Hajime Hinata
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joined Jul 20, 2016

I hope Rachel finds love, I feel for her since I'm lonely too

(y)
joined Jan 9, 2017

Havent seen much Mira lately

(y)
joined Jan 9, 2017

Havent seen much Mira lately

Yeah, its a bit sad really

Gay
joined Jun 13, 2016

Can this come back please i need this, i cant believe im actually saying that im having withdrawals from the lack of mira lately. i will pay to read this in english seriously

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

There's going to be a part 2 of this, just need to wait for it.

joined Nov 22, 2019

There's going to be a part 2 of this, just need to wait for it.

Beleive me, I have been.

last edited at May 15, 2021 3:59AM

Ec324dcc-cdf2-41b8-a84a-08270b64c8bc
joined Feb 20, 2019

Will I live long enough to see the end?

Gfkenr4j2k-2
joined Aug 7, 2019

The part 2 is already out on Irodori, FYI.

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