Well, there it is. This really seems to be the only Manaria Friends doujin more or less, because I've seen it everywhere now.
The art is nice and the scenario not at all impossible, but love potions are always cheap. I personally always assumed that in Episode 7 where the potion appeared, Anne was merely messing with Grea.

Well I hope then your lover will also try to drug you without your knowledge and take advantage of you. But it's k because you want it, you're just too shy to make a move yourself and need someone to force themselves on you.

Did that happen in the doujin? - No! You can't know what would happen IF Grea had take the Drugs, maybe it's no effective, maybe Anne didn't intend to do something with the maybe drugged Grea....

It would have happened if Anne didn't accidentally down the entire thing herself.
Even if it had not been effective, Anne made it with the intention of being effective.
So are you saying Anne made a love potion, wanted Grea to drink it and then do... nothing? I am curious as to your reasoning for that one lol

Yeah, I don't really agree with using the drugs tag for a freakin love potion. I mean, come on. They don't actually exist, and their effect is supposed to be a type of magic.

The drug tag doesn't limit itself to real life drugs. If a character gets drugged in the story, the Drugs tag applies. Seriously...

last edited at May 1, 2019 8:26AM

Finally! It's here!

Please let people enjoy fictional stories without bringing the outrage mob into it. It's getting very tiresome.

Please let people enjoy fictional stories without bringing the outrage mob into it. It's getting very tiresome.

Whoa now... All I did was correct you on your assumption that a tag was used wrongly. I was never outraged over this turn of events, I simply think it's cheap writing. But this is porn, so it's not a big deal.

Nevri just really dislikes this specific kind of plot, so it's understandable when it hurts to see it happen with something you love.

I though it was a new doujin from them well still happy to Re-read!!

My comment about the outrage mob wasn't directed at a single person in this thread. It was more a plea to treat this work as it is: complete fiction with no bearing on real life. I understand if people have had unpleasant experiences or have even been abused, but to take it out on fictional works is just unnecessary. And again, I still disagree with using a tag called drugs when no drugs have been used. The tag is not called drugged, just drugs. That would indicate that drugs are being used, and they're really not. I have the same problem with the Wataten doujin that came out recently with the girls being intoxicated by Miyako's breast milk somehow. There, as in here, the tag really doesn't apply. This is basically a case of a tag being used because a tag that better fits the situation doesn't exist yet. If you have any suggestions on what a tag denoting that someone is magically intoxicated might be, please feel free to tell me or suggest it where it's appropriate.

last edited at May 2, 2019 8:30AM

^Now, I agree with you on the Wataten doujin, but an aphrodisiac is a drug.

As for the story itself, it's a weird borderline case where both sides of the argument can be correct to an extent, seeing how Anne did indeed try to have Grea drink the love potion, but on the other hand her thoughts earlier show that she did not do so with the intent to take advantage of Grea, but rather just to test its effects, not really considering where it would logically lead from there.

Yes, an aphrodisiac is a drug, but no aphrodisiac is even mentioned in either story.

Throbelisk posted:

Yes, an aphrodisiac is a drug, but no aphrodisiac is even mentioned in either story.

She drunk love potion for crying out love. It either made her fall in love with Grea temporary or (which seems to be case) made her very horny and hard to control her urges, which is definition of aphrodisiac. Also japanese word for Love Potion can mean both. She is intoxicated by it and at the end regain her conscious or as she said it "went back to normal". Saying it doesn't count as a drug or being drugged at this point is just willfully ignoring facts. Or being in denial, not wanting to accept entire doujin revolves around attempting rape. Pick your poison.

And no, I did not have bad experiences I'm venting on this story. In fact normally I'd not mind the way Anne ignores Grea's pleas that much. Sure, it's still not good, but what really ruins this entire story for me is the fact it all starts from Anne's blatant attempt to drug Grea.

I was going to write a wall of text on it in the other thread, but I didn't have time and motivation to do it and it'll probably be waste of time anyway, but I'll say here what I was going to say there. The fact so many people accept "stop" as a flavor text and is ok with ignoring it, is very worrying. Not to mention, I had imagined that from all couples, people would want to see doujin about Grea x Anne to be a bit more wholesome than your standard porn plot. I understand people are desperate for yuri and especially finding a specific parring is hard, but man, I thought people have higher standards than this.

last edited at May 2, 2019 9:26AM

Yes, an aphrodisiac is a drug, but no aphrodisiac is even mentioned in either story.

I think you are using semantics to justify a lost point. A love potion is a really strong aphrosidiac. This was not a love charm or a spell, it was clearly a potion made from ingredients and liquid. That is a drug, fictional or not. Therefore the drug tag applies. There is really no room for debate here unless you want to redefine the word drug.

understand people are desperate for yuri and especially finding a specific parring is hard, but man, I thought people have higher standards than this.

As I alluded to in the other thread, this only works because both partners clearly wanted it. There is tons of evidence to this, but most importantly Grea's lack of actual resistance. These two are already in love and this was a strong push. It wasn't very proper or emotionally satisfying, but it was still not anywhere near rape. Anne's intentions were wrong and her methods worse, but even Grea (in this doujin) seems to know why she did it and encouraged her subtly to do it in a better way next time.

last edited at May 2, 2019 10:05AM

This is clearly a differing on what the author's intended definition of potion was, and nothing can be done about it. I'll say nothing further, because it's just a difference of opinion at this point.

This is clearly a differing on what the author's intended definition of potion was, and nothing can be done about it. I'll say nothing further, because it's just a difference of opinion at this point.

There is no definition for potion in this universe that would make this not fit the drug category, but sure. Opinions. Let's leave it at that.

You couldn't just leave it alone. You had to make an asshole comment about it and attempt to frame me as a moron. It IS a matter of opinion, and there IS a definition of the word that makes it not fit the drug category. I've already said it. Go fuck yourself, BugDevil. Seriously.

You couldn't just leave it alone. You had to make an asshole comment about it and attempt to frame me as a moron. It IS a matter of opinion, and there IS a definition of the word that makes it not fit the drug category. I've already said it. Go fuck yourself, BugDevil. Seriously.

I didn't portray you as a moron. It might be a simple language barrier thing. Well I was ready to leave it alone, but if you insist... No you did not put up an alternative. You just randomly claimed that love potions usually have "magic effects" which is neither proven, nor makes it any less of a drug. It's not like magic drugs are somehow a new thing.
Then you compared it to an irrelevant doujin about magic breast milk.

I fail to see where there is a definition of potion that makes it not a drug in your posts. But I am sure you still think you are right, so alright. It's your opinion. I will now try to find a method to fornicate with myself if you don't mind.

last edited at May 2, 2019 3:14PM

Throbelisk posted:

Yes, an aphrodisiac is a drug, but no aphrodisiac is even mentioned in either story.

For all intents and purposes love potion is a drug. You consume it and it affects your body and mind. In fact, it fits definition of a psychoactive drug to a tee. You're the one being stubborn about it.

EDIT. Also: "A potion (from Latin potio "drink") is a magical type of liquified medicine or drug." if you insist to be so pedantic.

last edited at May 2, 2019 3:38PM

I fucking NEEDED this!

Rubbing your vagina on dragon scales must hurt...

I want more Anne x Grea doujins... a lot more.

last edited at May 6, 2019 9:36PM

UmU

this is a amizing love it so much ^-^

this is so well made, i love it ^-^

Woah. This is what I missed.. well. I don't mean the NSFW part. I meant like I missed the kissing part in the anime

Yes and… no.

It might be in shadows, but if that's not a kiss I don't know what is. >.>

But yeah, that was good. I'm almost surprised there aren't more MF doujins…

Shame this anime never got a final season.

Tailsex is good shit