Forum › Yuri mangas that you should be reading but are not here
Oh, I remember that. Decent, but nothing spectacular
...The fact that I must have read it somewhere else confuses me, though
last edited at May 6, 2014 6:16PM
Oh that one!... I thought I read it here...??
I actually haven't read it myself but Voiceful was licensed. It seems like scans of it have been uploaded to leech hosting sites, but looking at mangaupdates the series was never completely scanlated? I recall it because I think it came up in a discussion of older licensed series, about how it was unfortunate because it sold poorly and is now out of print/fairly impossible to get a hold of.
I actually haven't read it myself but Voiceful was licensed. It seems like scans of it have been uploaded to leech hosting sites, but looking at mangaupdates the series was never completely scanlated? I recall it because I think it came up in a discussion of older licensed series, about how it was unfortunate because it sold poorly and is now out of print/fairly impossible to get a hold of.
Looked a lot like an ending to me, where it ended.
Kashimashi
I kinda dashed through the anime, which seemed to rushed towards the ending with lots-o-flashbacks... Heard the manga was better...
Never really liked this thing were dudes turn into girls or vice versa... Ranma 1/2 freaked me out as a kid, guess my brain wasn't ready for anime...
its not terrible if you just go into it with the mindset that he was a girl to begin with and I agree, the manga was a bit better with handling the ending.
Should've skipped ep1 and just ignored the dialogue that mentions it :D
I liked it tho...
I usually really hate love triangle stuff, one of the most overused cliches in the genre, it's all done in the same format, over-the-top soap opera drama, predictable from the very begging, third wheel is a character that people should not care for due to it being a shallow construct who's very existence is just being fodder for the angst and drama love triangle. I roll my eyes with all my might at thee, Love Triangles, The Plague of the Romance Genre.
I really do not have anything against love triangles, I actually kind of enjoy them as long as they are not overly annoying. Probably because of VVV
I was in a love triangle once or twice in high school. They usually happened unknowingly and the first time ended up with the girl giving me a rejection/hate letter one day out of the blue. She was super friendly to me for months and I considered as a friend. Turned out she had a crush on me while I had a crush on a girl a grade above us. Surprised the hell outta me!! We became good friends later though.
The other time I made the other girl cry unknowingly. I forgot what I said but the girl in the above story punched me (not anime style, in the arm, and it hurt iirc) for it. I had no idea who she was at the time and I suppose I said something about not ever being interested in her or something. Later on we both had this... strange vibe of attraction toward each other but nothing ever came of it, and I'm glad.
So I guess that's why I don't really have any issues with them. (That is not mentioning the numerous times in the past 6 1/2 years where other guys tried to steal my girlfriend away knowing she was with me, and even met and shook my hand!! The nerve!!! And yes, if in the past if I found out the girl I became attracted to had a boyfriend I would totally back off, it's not my place to interfere and because I would not like someone else doing it to me.)
Besides aaaalll of that. My main problem with the romance genre is the stories where the main character is always thinking about getting a girlfriend or sex and that's all that they ever think about. There is no character development outside of that. But what is even much much worse is when the main love interest (usually a guy) sexually assaults the main girl or nearly rapes her and all of a sudden she's like, "OMFGOZH*(#($*H(F*#(OIEH I LOVE HIM!!!" On top of that the main guy is almost always a complete asshole/douche bag and whenever they bully or tease or harass the main girl she runs or pushes them away. Then they spit out, "you're a coward. I did nothing wrong. This is all your fault we are like this." Constantly humiliating and treating the main girl like an object or whatever. The sad part is is that the main girl is usually a pretty good character but ends up becoming some weird love slave who all of a sudden cannot do anything without the douche bag love interest. I've had so much trouble finding decent het romances because of this problem.
It's also a bit of a rant because I just dropped Hana Yori Dango mid way through Vol.26 and went through a few other similar "romances" just before it.
Besides aaaalll of that. My main problem with the romance genre is the stories where the main character is always thinking about getting a girlfriend or sex and that's all that they ever think about. There is no character development outside of that. But what is even much much worse is when the main love interest (usually a guy) sexually assaults the main girl or nearly rapes her and all of a sudden she's like, "OMFGOZH*(#($*H(F*#(OIEH I LOVE HIM!!!" On top of that the main guy is almost always a complete asshole/douche bag and whenever they bully or tease or harass the main girl she runs or pushes them away. Then they spit out, "you're a coward. I did nothing wrong. This is all your fault we are like this." Constantly humiliating and treating the main girl like an object or whatever. The sad part is is that the main girl is usually a pretty good character but ends up becoming some weird love slave who all of a sudden cannot do anything without the douche bag love interest.
Describing almost every hentai and ecchi there... Just add rape and torture, and multiple girls... I wish I could erase all the crap I watched...
I've had so much trouble finding decent het romances because of this problem.
Heh, I gave up on romance long ago. Then I found yuri with all the sweetness and flirty vibes.
Where sometimes even the porn was so sweet that I squirm on my chair cuz its so overwhelming! (e.g. soon to be on this site, http://yuri-ism.com/2014/05/04/release-257-kyosaya-pillow-talk/ )
I should try to find some flirty-sweet het romances... I am under the impression that there isn't any...
last edited at May 8, 2014 10:56PM
Besides aaaalll of that. My main problem with the romance genre is the stories where the main character is always thinking about getting a girlfriend or sex and that's all that they ever think about. There is no character development outside of that. But what is even much much worse is when the main love interest (usually a guy) sexually assaults the main girl or nearly rapes her and all of a sudden she's like, "OMFGOZH*(#($*H(F*#(OIEH I LOVE HIM!!!" On top of that the main guy is almost always a complete asshole/douche bag and whenever they bully or tease or harass the main girl she runs or pushes them away. Then they spit out, "you're a coward. I did nothing wrong. This is all your fault we are like this." Constantly humiliating and treating the main girl like an object or whatever. The sad part is is that the main girl is usually a pretty good character but ends up becoming some weird love slave who all of a sudden cannot do anything without the douche bag love interest.
Describing almost every hentai and ecchi there... Just add rape and torture, and multiple girls... I wish I could erase all the crap I watched...
I don't even read/watch hentai and stumble through ecchi every once in a while but generally avoid both. It's why I'm still sane in some areas of my brain. But it's all very much true for regular hets as well.
I've had so much trouble finding decent het romances because of this problem.
Heh, I gave up on romance long ago. Then I found yuri with all the sweetness and flirty vibes.
Where sometimes even the porn was so sweet that I squirm on my chair cuz its so overwhelming! (e.g. soon to be on this site, http://yuri-ism.com/2014/05/04/release-257-kyosaya-pillow-talk/ )
Lmao that was the same with me!! XD...
I should try to find some flirty-sweet het romances... I am under the impression that there isn't any...
I really haven't found any, or at least I haven't found ones that are along those lines. Only good ones I can think of that have decent romances are:
--Hibi Chouchou,
--Kimi Ni Todoke (the manga is good but the anime makes it even better!),
--Orange Yane no Chiisana Ie (Little House with an Orange Roof),
--Horimiya (the most flirtatious of the ones I'm suggesting imho),
--Angel Densetsu (my personal, all time favorite!!),
--Ore Monotogatari (this one is friggen hilarious! Aka, overly macho guy gets the super cute girl),
--Otoyomegatari/A Bride's Story (damned amazing art and story),
--Emma (same author as Otoyomegatari),
--and Sakurasaku Shoukougun (just found this and it looks to be turning into an okay romance, but I'm holding my breath, it's super aaaangsty right now).
Well, if we're talking about sweet het romance, I just have to mention Bonnouji.
It's Aki Eda's work, so it's really cute too.
Ty, Gonna check those out later tonight
If you've never read anything non-yuri by Mizutani Fuuka, now wouldn't be a bad time to fix that. Her and Aki Eda draw some of the cutest romance I've ever read, het or otherwise.
Ty, Gonna check those out later tonight
If you like cute romances that are more about gentle flirting than anything hot and heavy, you might take a look at Adachi Mitsuru's stuff. Cross Game and Katsu! in particular, but Touch is good too. I don't care for het all that much, but this I really like.
ALL the licensed series. Don't backtalk me: Copyright sucks.
(unless you're a writer, artist or publisher, of course)
Nope, pretty much only benefits publishers. Especially when it's manga where the license is dirt cheap and none of the money goes back to the artist. The only one making money are greedy middle men so don't start that whole "supporting the artist" bullshit that holds no water when the only people making money are distributors.
ALL the licensed series. Don't backtalk me: Copyright sucks.
(unless you're a writer, artist or publisher, of course)
Nope, pretty much only benefits publishers. Especially when it's manga where the license is dirt cheap and none of the money goes back to the artist. The only one making money are greedy middle men so don't start that whole "supporting the artist" bullshit that holds no water when the only people making money are distributors.
Who do the artists work for? Who signs their paychecks? And should they self-publish, do they benefit by copyright then?
Like I said, there are problems with copyright. There's no question about that. But let's not toss the baby with the bathwater, all right?
ALL the licensed series. Don't backtalk me: Copyright sucks.
(unless you're a writer, artist or publisher, of course)
Nope, pretty much only benefits publishers. Especially when it's manga where the license is dirt cheap and none of the money goes back to the artist. The only one making money are greedy middle men so don't start that whole "supporting the artist" bullshit that holds no water when the only people making money are distributors.
Who do the artists work for? Who signs their paychecks? And should they self-publish, do they benefit by copyright then?
Like I said, there are problems with copyright. There's no question about that. But let's not toss the baby with the bathwater, all right?
Sure, but no one gets money from US releases, so really that entire spiel about supporting the author is just hot air. If you want to support the author import, otherwise you're helping no one.
Thanks for the suggestions of Aki Eda's and Mizutani Fuuka's het romances. Will definitely check those out.
ALL the licensed series. Don't backtalk me: Copyright sucks.
(unless you're a writer, artist or publisher, of course)
Nope, pretty much only benefits publishers. Especially when it's manga where the license is dirt cheap and none of the money goes back to the artist. The only one making money are greedy middle men so don't start that whole "supporting the artist" bullshit that holds no water when the only people making money are distributors.
Who do the artists work for? Who signs their paychecks? And should they self-publish, do they benefit by copyright then?
Like I said, there are problems with copyright. There's no question about that. But let's not toss the baby with the bathwater, all right?
Sure, but no one gets money from US releases, so really that entire spiel about supporting the author is just hot air. If you want to support the author import, otherwise you're helping no one.
Actually I'm just curious about what he/she has been doing here, on this you-don't-have-to-pay-a-single-penny-to-read-them website, while lecturing us about copyrights. XD
Ah, and, yeah, lecturing us about the authors' making money as well, before I forget.
last edited at May 10, 2014 3:25AM
One of the major reasons I'm here is because of Dynasty's hosting policies. Basically that it's a private host which will never place ads or take donations, and is in general supportive of scanlators, the original artists, and licensed releases. Actions like Dynasty taking down Girl Friends when it got licensed are things I respect. Because it's clear that Dynasty does not host these releases for self-profit or to disrespect anybody. Rather, it is providing a service for fans which encourages good fandom.
Obviously, in terms of directly supporting authors, the best method is purchasing the original material. For people who cannot read Japanese however, purchases like these basically constitute outright donations. As far as reading things like scanlations or licensed translations go, if these works weren't translated, the original authors wouldn't be seeing a cent from Western fans in the first place. That's why I think it's fine that fans don't go and make a RAW purchase of every scanlation they read. For authors that readers really are passionate about, though, I do hope they go and make those purchases.
Supporting licensed English translations is, I think, a whole different issue. Rail against "middlemen" as you like, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong about paying for legal, professional translations for manga. The fact is that readers in the western world speak a different language. If we want to read manga, it has to get translated somehow. There are advantages that legal solutions can sometimes provide which fan scanlations won't: guarantees of a certain level of translation quality, release consistency, access to different fan demographics. I think it's good/healthy that manga and anime possess both fan and professional translation scenes, so when I pay for licensed English releases, yes, it's to support the English licensing industry. Think about the fact that a complete translation of Voiceful would not exist/have been completed as promptly without a licensed translation team. Is it really so bad that manga licensing "middlemen" exist?
Ultimately, as far as supporting your manga hobby goes -- whether your favourite artists, or licensed professional translations -- it's true that you basically vote with your wallet. My reason for respecting Dynasty is that it respects/encourages those decisions. This goes for both the original artists and licensed releases. It is a fairly big step to expect inexperienced English fans used to simply pirating their manga to start making expensive import purchases of Japanese tankoubons. Licensed releases represent a nice intermediary step to becoming good fans who make concrete actions to support their passions.
There are advantages that legal solutions can sometimes provide which fan scanlations won't: guarantees of a certain level of translation quality, release consistency, access to different fan demographics.
I'm not so optimistic. When it becomes an "industry", it can produce nothing but waste. Take a look at what the "software engineering" has become, and you'll know what I mean. Translation itself is, as long as it's done by human, a craft, which should never be done by paid workers, but by dedicated fans.
Oh. Did I mention a number of crap-like translations that don't deserve to be supported and respected at all, some of which even got uploaded here on DR?
There are advantages that legal solutions can sometimes provide which fan scanlations won't: guarantees of a certain level of translation quality, release consistency, access to different fan demographics.
You're kidding right? Have you ever even looked at CR's manga releases or just picked something off the shelf? More than half of them are worded badly horribly typeset and localized to the point that they make no sense. If you want good quality the professional translations are the last place you go, if you want to support the authors the professional translations are the last place you go. Essentially the only reason to buy licensed manga in the US is to support people who often steal the translations from scanlators in the first place making money off of doing poor quality work you can get better of for free.
ALL the licensed series. Don't backtalk me: Copyright sucks.
(unless you're a writer, artist or publisher, of course)
Nope, pretty much only benefits publishers. Especially when it's manga where the license is dirt cheap and none of the money goes back to the artist. The only one making money are greedy middle men so don't start that whole "supporting the artist" bullshit that holds no water when the only people making money are distributors.
Who do the artists work for? Who signs their paychecks? And should they self-publish, do they benefit by copyright then?
Like I said, there are problems with copyright. There's no question about that. But let's not toss the baby with the bathwater, all right?
Sure, but no one gets money from US releases, so really that entire spiel about supporting the author is just hot air. If you want to support the author import, otherwise you're helping no one.
Actually I'm just curious about what he/she has been doing here, on this you-don't-have-to-pay-a-single-penny-to-read-them website, while lecturing us about copyrights. XD
Ah, and, yeah, lecturing us about the authors' making money as well, before I forget.
I'm glad you're at least honest about your motivations here: It's all about you getting shit for free. I can respect that straightforwardness.
Just don't try to dress it up in some "it's because copyright is a problem" or "screw the middlemen" jazz (as if licensing doesn't benefit anyone but Big Manga). Because in the end it's all about not having to pay for your entertainment.
ALL the licensed series. Don't backtalk me: Copyright sucks.
(unless you're a writer, artist or publisher, of course)
Nope, pretty much only benefits publishers. Especially when it's manga where the license is dirt cheap and none of the money goes back to the artist. The only one making money are greedy middle men so don't start that whole "supporting the artist" bullshit that holds no water when the only people making money are distributors.
Who do the artists work for? Who signs their paychecks? And should they self-publish, do they benefit by copyright then?
Like I said, there are problems with copyright. There's no question about that. But let's not toss the baby with the bathwater, all right?
Sure, but no one gets money from US releases, so really that entire spiel about supporting the author is just hot air. If you want to support the author import, otherwise you're helping no one.
Actually I'm just curious about what he/she has been doing here, on this you-don't-have-to-pay-a-single-penny-to-read-them website, while lecturing us about copyrights. XD
Ah, and, yeah, lecturing us about the authors' making money as well, before I forget.
I'm glad you're at least honest about your motivations here: It's all about you getting shit for free. I can respect that straightforwardness.
Just don't try to dress it up in some "it's because copyright is a problem" or "screw the middlemen" jazz (as if licensing doesn't benefit anyone but Big Manga). Because in the end it's all about not having to pay for your entertainment.
But you're the one dressing it up, you're saying it helps the artist to buy the licensed series when it doesn't. If you want to have someone shit in your face it's a good idea, otherwise support the artist by buying the original release if you want and get the scanlations if you want quality releases, otherwise you're only hurting the industry as a whole and yourself by getting shit in your face.