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joined Dec 12, 2016

Do you know who would have a better idea of the schedule than someone who literally just started there? The person actually in charge of that.

Yeah, and it's almost like Naru literally asked Hajime if it was alright the first time and then asked her to take responsibility for the second time. But I guess you don't remember that either.

And I've gone over the difference in attitude between Umiko and Naru several times already, so that this point I'm starting to think that you're not even reading things you reply to.

No you have not, the best you got is their difference in seniority. Umiko uses physical violence when more work is put on her team. Naru tells it like it is and all the sudden she is a huge bitch. Do you not see the conflict there?

Come on, dude. You can't even be consistent with yourself about what she should be evaluated on. The final outcome of the project shouldn't matter, you say. But then you say she needs to have a certain number of projects completed or she'll fail. But then you say the quality of the code should be all that matters. But then you say speed is most important.

What the hell are you talking about? The only thing I said about the project that shouldn't matter is how it is specifically designed, the type of game doesn't matter to the coder. What matters is speed and quality of the code, the actual game being played does not. How are you not getting this?

And besides, as has been mentioned multiple times before, she has OFFICIAL WORK ORDERS, as well as a growing amount of code, and the dates she submitted that code for review, that she can clearly show exactly how much work she did and exactly how long it took. Total number of projects finished should be irrelevant compared to how much total work she got done, if you truly believe that all that matters is her code.

And that's exactly why she asked Hajime to take responsibility. But, again, that fact hasn't sunk into you yet. What is she suppose to do? Either ask Hajime to take responsibility for the delays or rat her out and use her as an excuse later. Either way you would find someway to be pissed off at her.

Also, what management? The decision was already made and everything was finalized before she blew up. Her criticizing Hajime did nothing to actually speed anything up. And with the aforementioned work orders already showing the cause of the delay, literally the only thing yelling at Hajime achieved was catharsis.

HAHAHAHA yelling? Blowing up? What the hell are you talking about? Now your just making up your own head cannon. She talked it out with Hajime, told her the issues, and told her that they couldn't keep redoing the same work. That sped up the process.

Point me to to where "less than a month" is ever mentioned, anywhere. Or how far away the deadline she mentions actually is. And yes, it was pretty clearly a reference to the final deadline for shipping the game, since she uses the term 納期 in Japanese, and not 締め切り. While the latter is standard deadline, the former means the final deadline to ship a product. I know it could have been made clearer in English, but there's only so much space in speech bubbles and it takes more words because there isn't a simple equivalent term differentiating them.

Come on, use some deductive reasoning for once. She clearly states that if she redoes the mini-game for the first set of changes she will miss the deadline. For the second changes she makes it clear that Hajime will have to take responsibility for the mini-game being late. Then she turns it in late, which is before Nene has to turn in her project, which was given an explicit 1 month deadline. Naru's project had a deadline before Nene's 1 month deadline, therefore her deadline was shorter than 1 month. Do you get it now?

And no, I highly doubt they are releasing the game less than a year after starting development. Either you are out of your mind or the author is.

Uh, even outside of the above note, it's stated in no uncertain terms right here.

Plus the fairly specific release date right here.

Maybe you should stop making assumptions about everything and actually read the series.

A winter release date, literally means that it could release the next year. They barely announced the game and now they are coming up on the final dead line?

Less that 10 chapters since they even got the publisher to approve the alpha, now they are coming up on a dead line? They are not even in the all nighter phase of development, they are apparently still in the "dead lines dont mean much" pase.

Pretty much everything about her wording and body language. And the flippant way she talks about it when mentioning it to Umiko later. But I guess we'll have to wait to see how it's animated!

Apparently not since you can magically see it already animated since you already know her body language. I guess bowing is condescending in Japanese culture these days.

What's this? She's getting mad at Hazuki over a request for a feature change that she predicted and even suggested to Hazuki beforehand?

Or a problem with the change that will cause further delays, but I guess that wouldn't help your case.

What's this? She's dragging Hazuki to the programmer booth to discuss changes?

You mean as she flicks her as punishment? Why would Umiko flick her if Umiko is suggesting the changes. Again, deductive reasoning isn't your strong suit.

What's this? She's claiming she could forcefully deal with Hajime's indecisiveness about design?

She literally sits there complaining about changes. How does this help your argument at all?

Seriously, do you even read this series?

It's become clear that even though your a good TL your reading comprehensions skills are absolute garbage.

If your requirement for success is "getting everything right the first time without any outside help," then pretty much every single employee at the entire company is a failure. Look how many rejected and reworked designs both Aoba and Kou have had. How many bugs end up being found in the programmers' codes. How often the lead designer and head of the entire team herself ends up wanting to fix things. How often the 3D models are shown needing to have errors fixed. Even Umiko outright states that it's unrealistic to expect the design to be perfect and complete from the beginning.

Doesn't matter if problems are inevitable. It's a fact that all problems still have a cause. I didn't say that Hajime should be removed as a designer, only pointing out that it's entirely her fault that there are delays. but, again, you can't seem to grasp my point and are too busy building strawmen.

Plus, with the previous design chapter being entirely about encouraging Hajime to accept help from others, as far as the company itself is concerned, she's still not doing a bad job.

Yes, she is. Her initial design was boring and lacked proper atmosphere. If she just suggested a mini-game that was just Tag but relied on everyone else to make it fun then she is doing a bad job.

It's almost like you haven't actually read any of Umiko's lines!

Look! She's outright saying that it's not the changes themselves that she's mad about!

She is literally having her apologize for making the changes. Why would she make her apologize if she didn't like them? you're so damn obtuse.

Look! She's outright saying that it's unrealistic to expect the design to be perfect from the start, and that despite how annoying it can be, she still wants to make the game as good as possible!

So first she like's changes but now she doesn't? Make up your damn mind. She doesn't like changes and turns to physical violence when she is forced to change the code. That's a fact, that is a major part of her character. She doesn't like the changes.

All I am saying is that for someone who argued that, you seem to be judging events at Eagle Jump as if it were some other imagined, completely different company, instead of based on what has been shown to be standard practice there.

What a complete load, I did no such thing. I never once stated that Eagle Jump should do or who should be fired. I never once made an assumption on how the hierarchy there treats new hires or what they expect their attitudes to be. I simply justified Naru's annoyance with some of the issues at the company.

As I've stated before, I don't even have a problem with her asking about the deadline. I have a problem with how she went about it.

How did she go about it that was an issue? Being direct and to the point? It's obvious that the only issue you have is that it's a new character suggesting that an old character could possibly cause a problem.

What are you even claiming she needs to demand leniency from? Her evaluation for employment? I thought her code was all that mattered? Schedule management would be entirely Hajime's job in this situation, and Naru has work orders and code to show the work she did and the time periods she was given.

She is literally asking Hajime to take responsibility for the work load so that she can focus on the code. HOW DO YOU NOT GET THAT BY NOW? At first she is planning to code fast with high quality, when she is forced to slow down she asks Hajime to take responsibility so that she can focus on coding. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this before you understand it.

And again, why, then, don't you claim that she should make same demands of Hazuki, who is asking for even bigger changes even later into the schedule?

Because she is the one evaluating her, what is Naru going to going to do? Ask Hazuki to tell herself to take responsibility for delays? You really didn't think that argument out too much.

Honestly, discussing this seems to be completely futile, since you seem to have read neither the source material nor any of the things you're responding to.

Again, that's hilarious considering the whole dead line fiasco that you can't seem to grasp.

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joined May 23, 2015

No you have not, the best you got is their difference in seniority. Umiko uses physical violence when more work is put on her team. Naru tells it like it is and all the sudden she is a huge bitch. Do you not see the conflict there?

The hell are you talking about? I barely even mentioned seniority. You're thinking of someone else entirely. I wrote an entire thing on the difference between their attitudes, but you clearly can't read.

What the hell are you talking about? The only thing I said about the project that shouldn't matter is how it is specifically designed, the type of game doesn't matter to the coder. What matters is speed and quality of the code, the actual game being played does not. How are you not getting this?

Then why does how many projects she finishes or how quickly she finishes them even matter, when she can clearly show exactly what was requested of her, when it was requested, and how quickly she coded it?

And that's exactly why she asked Hajime to take responsibility. But, again, that fact hasn't sunk into you yet. What is she suppose to do? Either ask Hajime to take responsibility for the delays or rat her out and use her as an excuse later. Either way you would find someway to be pissed off at her.

So she is asking Hajime to take responsibility for something... that she can already prove isn't he own fault? Why?

Come on, use some deductive reasoning for once. She clearly states that if she redoes the mini-game for the first set of changes she will miss the deadline. For the second changes she makes it clear that Hajime will have to take responsibility for the mini-game being late. Then she turns it in late, which is before Nene has to turn in her project, which was given an explicit 1 month deadline. Naru's project had a deadline before Nene's 1 month deadline, therefore her deadline was shorter than 1 month. Do you get it now?

Yeah, because there is still more work to do after that stage. Among other things, they need to get final approval from above, then actually insert it into the game. It is never specifically mentioned when the deadline is, or that she's already past it when she turns it in. She couldn't be past it yet, anyway, considering the terminology she used meaning the final shipping date for the whole product, and that there is still work being done on it.

And no, I highly doubt they are releasing the game less than a year after starting development. Either you are out of your mind or the author is.

I feel like it was mentioned this was a smaller project, but I can't remember specifically where. Maybe it was in the anime, which I can't check at this time.

A winter release date, literally means that it could release the next year. They barely announced the game and now they are coming up on the final dead line?

Less that 10 chapters since they even got the publisher to approve the alpha, now they are coming up on a dead line? They are not even in the all nighter phase of development, they are apparently still in the "dead lines dont mean much" pase.

Youre not even arguing with me at this point, esoecially considering that the volume ends with the game's release. But by all means, keep inseting your own assumptions instead of going by the series' own logic.

Apparently not since you can magically see it already animated since you already know her body language. I guess bowing is condescending in Japanese culture these days.

Again, arguing either side of this point any further is pointless when we could just wait to see how it gets animated today.

What's this? She's getting mad at Hazuki over a request for a feature change that she predicted and even suggested to Hazuki beforehand?

Or a problem with the change that will cause further delays, but I guess that wouldn't help your case.

"I want to add something to this part."
"I told you it would end up that way."

Yeah, I can clearly see how she is talking about future delays, and not past suggestions being ignored.

What's this? She's dragging Hazuki to the programmer booth to discuss changes?

You mean as she flicks her as punishment? Why would Umiko flick her if Umiko is suggesting the changes. Again, deductive reasoning isn't your strong suit.

Why the hell would she need to go to the effortof dragging Hazuki all the way to the programmer booth just for a flick? She could do that anywhere. Especially considering that it is far from the only time she does it, the first times being long before they even made the flick agreement.

What's this? She's claiming she could forcefully deal with Hajime's indecisiveness about design?

She literally sits there complaining about changes. How does this help your argument at all?

Yeah, and finishes by saying that she could have pretty forcefully dealt with Hajime if she had been the one working with her. Since, you know, the entire point I was making in this section was about Umiko getting more directly involved with the designers, that's thr single statement I was referencing. For you to bring completely outside points into it, your reading comprehension is pretty bad, itself.

Doesn't matter if problems are inevitable. It's a fact that all problems still have a cause. I didn't say that Hajime should be removed as a designer, only pointing out that it's entirely her fault that there are delays. but, again, you can't seem to grasp my point and are too busy building strawmen

You have literally called her a complete failure and awful at her job multiple times, in which case so is every single other employee at the company.

Yes, she is. Her initial design was boring and lacked proper atmosphere. If she just suggested a mini-game that was just Tag but relied on everyone else to make it fun then she is doing a bad job.

You're arguing against the series' own logic and values with your own judgments and assumptions. If you're going to do that, you need to use the series' logic against itself to show it to be internally inconsistent, not... whatever you think youre doing here.

It's almost like you haven't actually read any of Umiko's lines!

Look! She's outright saying that it's not the changes themselves that she's mad about!

She is literally having her apologize for making the changes. Why would she make her apologize if she didn't like them? you're so damn obtuse.

She literally says its not the changes themselves, but the attitude that she's punishing. How can you be that bad at reading?

Look! She's outright saying that it's unrealistic to expect the design to be perfect from the start, and that despite how annoying it can be, she still wants to make the game as good as possible!

So first she like's changes but now she doesn't? Make up your damn mind. She doesn't like changes and turns to physical violence when she is forced to change the code. That's a fact, that is a major part of her character. She doesn't like the changes.

Maybe if you read more than just the first panel on that page, you'd see the conclusion, the most important point, the entire takeaway from that discussion, is that while annoying, such changes are unavoidable, and that despite the annoyance, she still wants to put out the best product possible, which that annoyance is necessary for.

And this is Umiko saying that, so it is pretty clearly meant to represent the mentality and philosophy of the company's programming team as a whole.

What a complete load, I did no such thing. I never once stated that Eagle Jump should do or who should be fired. I never once made an assumption on how the hierarchy there treats new hires or what they expect their attitudes to be. I simply justified Naru's annoyance with some of the issues at the company.

And yet you keep completely ignoring the manga's own internal logic and themes and values to apply your own, completely different ones.

How did she go about it that was an issue? Being direct and to the point? It's obvious that the only issue you have is that it's a new character suggesting that an old character could possibly cause a problem.

And yet you, yourself, have agreed in the past that her choice in wording was extremely poor.

She is literally asking Hajime to take responsibility for the work load so that she can focus on the code. HOW DO YOU NOT GET THAT BY NOW? At first she is planning to code fast with high quality, when she is forced to slow down she asks Hajime to take responsibility so that she can focus on coding. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this before you understand it.

The term "high quality" has not appeared a single time yet with respect to her code. Every change is a completely new feature, so it's not like she's being asked to redo existing code. So I don't know where you're getting these ideas of slow-down and less focus on the code. As I've stated numerous times and you have ignored every single time, she already has official documentation already showing everything.

Because she is the one evaluating her, what is Naru going to going to do? Ask Hazuki to tell herself to take responsibility for delays? You really didn't think that argument out too much.

She has clearly never even met Hazuki before. Umiko is doing the entirety of her assessment. That's why Hajime's apology message was sent to UMIKO, not Hazuki. In which case the only difference between Hajime and Hazuki is one of seniority, a difference you have criticized an endless number of times.

Given that you have a penchant for completely ignoring not only the majority of the argument you're replying to, but now clearly also have one for ignoring the majority of the information presented in the series itself, this can't even be called a discussion anymore. So there's no point in me continuing it any further.

I do look forward to more criticisms about how terrible my reading comprehension is for words that I was the one to write, though.

09_lapis_lazuline
joined Aug 12, 2017

This is the most outrageous convo I have ever seen. Good god.

joined May 23, 2015

It's pretty clear at this point that they either cannot, or simply refuse to, actually read anything, making them either a troll or an idiot.

So I am not going to continue it any further.

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

First, I want to say, love how you ignore the fact that you claimed that Naru blew up and yelled when she clearly didn't.

The hell are you talking about? I barely even mentioned seniority. You're thinking of someone else entirely. I wrote an entire thing on the difference between their attitudes, but you clearly can't read.

What a complete and utter lie. They literally don't have a different attitude. They both literally hate additional work load. Naru has an attitude but Umiko uses physical violence. You have yet to address this.

Then why does how many projects she finishes or how quickly she finishes them even matter, when she can clearly show exactly what was requested of her, when it was requested, and how quickly she coded it?

Because she can't show how quickly she coded it because the project is literally not done yet. Why the hell do you think she asks Hajime to take responsibility for the project being late? Oh right, you haven't what they actually said, you are too focused on how she said it.

So she is asking Hajime to take responsibility for something... that she can already prove isn't he own fault? Why?

Why not? So she doesn't have to use it an excuse later. Better for Hajime to voluntarily take responsibility than having to make a case to the bosses later.

Yeah, because there is still more work to do after that stage. Among other things, they need to get final approval from above, then actually insert it into the game. It is never specifically mentioned when the deadline is, or that she's already past it when she turns it in. She couldn't be past it yet, anyway, considering the terminology she used meaning the final shipping date for the whole product, and that there is still work being done on it.

She literally says that if she has to redo it then she will be late. Then has to ask Hajime directly to take responsibility for it being late. And yet here you are trying to claim that it isn't late. How daft can you get?

I feel like it was mentioned this was a smaller project, but I can't remember specifically where. Maybe it was in the anime, which I can't check at this time.

Hazuki makes no mention of it being a smaller project when requesting ideas.

Youre not even arguing with me at this point, esoecially considering that the volume ends with the game's release. But by all means, keep inseting your own assumptions instead of going by the series' own logic.

And we have seen chapters skip months between pages. Still doesn't show a time line, what chapter did summer start? What chapter did fall start? What chapter did Winter start?

Still doesn't matter since we know for a fact that they are literally months out from release, we know that Naru has a month dead line for the mini-game. Well, anyone with the subtle amount of deductive reasoning knows, you clearly can't grasp it. Also got to love how you claim that the game is being released so very soon and yet Naru is still working on the same game months after given the project. I wonder what they would have had her do if the mini-game was designed well sooner.

Again, arguing either side of this point any further is pointless when we could just wait to see how it gets animated today.

You literally see her bow. Are you blind?

Or a problem with the change that will cause further delays, but I guess that wouldn't help your case.

"I want to add something to this part."
"I told you it would end up that way."

Yeah, I can clearly see how she is talking about future delays, and not past suggestions being ignored.

What? She is clearly stating that there are problems with the changes Hazuki made. Nothing to do with Umiko suggesting changes herself.

Why the hell would she need to go to the effortof dragging Hazuki all the way to the programmer booth just for a flick? She could do that anywhere. Especially considering that it is far from the only time she does it, the first times being long before they even made the flick agreement.

What are you even arguing about at this point. How does any of this prove that Umiko is making suggestion to change the spec? There is absolutely nothing suggesting such, only Umiko getting mad at Hazuki for making changes.

Yeah, and finishes by saying that she could have pretty forcefully dealt with Hajime if she had been the one working with her. Since, you know, the entire point I was making in this section was about Umiko getting more directly involved with the designers, that's thr single statement I was referencing. For you to bring completely outside points into it, your reading comprehension is pretty bad, itself.

HAHAHA that wasn't your point at all. Umiko is getting mad at the changes, therefore she is getting involved in the changes? I guess Haru was just getting involved in the design with her complaints according to your garbage logic.

You have literally called her a complete failure and awful at her job multiple times, in which case so is every single other employee at the company.

So I guess english must be your second language since you don't know the definition of the common word "literal" because I literally never used the term "complete failure", let alone multiple times. I guess it's that wacky head canon of yours kicking in again.

I said she failed at designing the mini-game, which she clearly did since other people had to jump in to fix it for her.

You're arguing against the series' own logic and values with your own judgments and assumptions. If you're going to do that, you need to use the series' logic against itself to show it to be internally inconsistent, not... whatever you think youre doing here.

How the hell am I arguing the series' logic? I'm not. Not once did I say how the company should treat her unless I was referencing the person who said that the company should have fired Naru right there and then. But, again, can't expect much with your reading comprehension.

She literally says its not the changes themselves, but the attitude that she's punishing. How can you be that bad at reading?

The attitude that she is mad at is Hazuki adding changes and not being apologetic about it. If it's not the changes then why should Hazuki apologize? Again, reading comprehension, you lack it.

Maybe if you read more than just the first panel on that page, you'd see the conclusion, the most important point, the entire takeaway from that discussion, is that while annoying, such changes are unavoidable, and that despite the annoyance, she still wants to put out the best product possible, which that annoyance is necessary for.

And this is Umiko saying that, so it is pretty clearly meant to represent the mentality and philosophy of the company's programming team as a whole.

So what are you mad are Naru about? She gets annoyed but does the work anyways because she won't get in trouble for it. How is that any different from Umiko? It's not.

And yet you keep completely ignoring the manga's own internal logic and themes and values to apply your own, completely different ones.

What the fuck are you on? What internal logic did I ignore? The fact that Umiko agreed with Naru's actions to get annoyed at Hajime? That Hajime apologized after realizing that Naru was under more pressure than her? Looks like I'm not the one ignoring the manga's logic.

And yet you, yourself, have agreed in the past that her choice in wording was extremely poor.

Who do you think you are talking to? First you make the claim that I called Hajime a "complete failure" and now you are making the claim that I said that Naru worded her extremely poorly? Again, literally not once.

The term "high quality" has not appeared a single time yet with respect to her code. Every change is a completely new feature, so it's not like she's being asked to redo existing code. So I don't know where you're getting these ideas of slow-down and less focus on the code. As I've stated numerous times and you have ignored every single time, she already has official documentation already showing everything.

What does have redoing existing code have anything to do with the quality of her brand new code? You are not making sense at all. She literally has to slow down by redoing code to add more features, have you ever written a single line of code in your life?

I also love how you think it's more appropriate and respectable for Naru to build a case behind Hajime's back in order to rat her out when the boss comes around asking why the game is late instead of just asking her directly.

She has clearly never even met Hazuki before. Umiko is doing the entirety of her assessment. That's why Hajime's apology message was sent to UMIKO, not Hazuki. In which case the only difference between Hajime and Hazuki is one of seniority, a difference you have criticized an endless number of times.

What the fuck?... Hazuki is literally the boss of her boss and she knows that. What are you smoking?

Given that you have a penchant for completely ignoring not only the majority of the argument you're replying to, but now clearly also have one for ignoring the majority of the information presented in the series itself, this can't even be called a discussion anymore. So there's no point in me continuing it any further.

HAHAHA I literally (there's that confusing word again, youll learn it eventually) reply to every single line you type. You just love to make shit up, don't you? Been writing too many fan fictions that you can't stop yourself from warping reality?

I do look forward to more criticisms about how terrible my reading comprehension is for words that I was the one to write, though.

Well seeing as how you don't know what the word "literally" means I'm going to go out and limb here and say that just because you can translate doesn't mean that you completely understand the meaning of what is being said. this conversation has been evident of that, you can't even understand plain English. I wonder how much has been lost in this manga with your translations.

One last note, quite ironic that you make claims that I don't read what you write and yet we have full documentation here showing that I clearly reply to everything you type. I guess documentation doesn't mean as much to you as you think it does to Eagle Jump.

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joined Mar 22, 2017

This is the most outrageous convo I have ever seen. Good god.

Absolutely. Hope a bunch of people miss the time when this forum is full with gag, yuri discussion, meme and more cheerful stuff. sigh -.-

Press F to pay respect for poor Naru.
F (By FrostBurn)

Also Moku this ep of anime that come tonight will reach current translated manga chapter, I positive that you also know this fact. So you guys better be ready. For Those Chapters

According to this episode preview. We have high chance to see more kou's butt tonight. XD

joined May 23, 2015

If the next two chapters ever get released, we could be done with this story arc and get back to that!

I say, despite knowing the plot reveal that comes with the end of this arc.

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joined Mar 22, 2017

Waiting for some nice translation like always. XD
If they are getting released.
To be honest though I really excited about that part and how people will react. ultimately in the anime

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Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

Just saw the episode, being proven right sure does feel great after such a long and pointless argument.

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joined Mar 22, 2017

So it wasn't just me after all. This episode appear to tune down a lot of conflict. (make Naru look a lot better)
They really done a great job. Finally.

Also hope that freaking long conversation can finally put to the end. It's all up to you both anyways

That move though. (You TS Probably notice that as well) Doga-Kobo... this studio are really........ since that freaking anime. Damn it! I just can't spilt that part out.

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

So it wasn't just me after all. This episode appear to tune down a lot of conflict. (make Naru look a lot better)

Didnt tune down anything in my eyes. Its exactly how I imagined the conversation happened in then manga and how this whole shit show started. But I suppose people already had their mind made up about Naru and that influenced how they read her lines.

Stardusttelepath8
joined Oct 15, 2014

Interesting how the latter part goes from being a Christmas chapter to "it's Autumn and everyone wants hotpot".
I mean, who sets up a romantic candle-lit dinner get up for sweet potatoes?
And where was matchmaker Hazuki in all of this?

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joined Mar 22, 2017

And where was matchmaker Hazuki in all of this?

I surprised that they didn't put her in. It's just kou and rin
Chapter that supposed to be winter are changed to autumn. I don't mind that though.

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F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

"Why the candle?"
Neutron star Kou as always, huh?

I feel bad for Hifumin eating alone when the rest had a pair ... There's the mascot but still oh wait I'm discussing the anime now O_O Gotta Paint it black

The voice really makes you understand better the tone and thoughts of the characters, and I think Naru feels less arrogant with voice acting.

Two episodes left right? I'm excited!

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joined May 23, 2015

To be fair, unless they forcefully include the Christmas and Valentine chapters, they won't have enough to fill out the remaining episodes.

And they can't modify the time scale, so they really gotta force it in.

At least they can kind of explain the present part with Kou acting weird as foreshadowing.

edit: Whatever you may think of the direct conflict, they did add a number of subtle things that showed Naru's attitude in other ways. Like ramping up the fight between her and Momo. Making the apology a more obvious insincere formality (based on the structure of the scene transition, they clearly meant that sigh to be directly connected to the apology.)

And certain lines of hers still come off as plenty arrogant.

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Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

You just cant admit being wrong, can you? She shows no signs of being condescending or arrogance at all during that scene. She doesnt blow up and yell either. Her body language makes her seem far more nervous and insecure than anything else. Sighs are meant as a sign of relief, not remotely close to arrogance.

Hamansteam2
joined Jan 31, 2013

Naru's worried over nothing. She meets her deadline, requirements change, deadline changes, all this stuff is taken into account. Even if she spends her whole internship changing stuff over and over when they go hey do we hire this person it's like yeah she did her work and did it well and that's it.

Nothing about Eagle Jump seems like they are an unreasonable company. (The key visual thing was publisher related).

We don't really hire interns at work, but we do hire temps so they know they aren't staying after the gig is up, but they really liked some temps at work that they got hired full time. Most of the internships are summer internships for school and not like with work waiting for them.

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joined Mar 22, 2017

Here come what they foreshadow in anime. Ch.60-61 is out on doki, should be here soon.
Kou leave Eagle Jump.... I can feel tension from next ep

last edited at Sep 12, 2017 9:57PM

joined May 23, 2015

With those chapters out I can finally say it.

Ha ha Naru's code is a buggy, barely-working piece of shit that even Nene can improve at a glance.

And hey, even Naru herself admits to having had a problem with her attitude.

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joined Mar 22, 2017

Naru already got what she deserves.
No more Hate to her PLS.

And hey, even Naru herself admits to having had a problem with her attitude.

Isn't that good? She know what she did bad. And I see no problem with that.

I sure few next ep will we surely see A lot of tears, Especially Rin's

last edited at Sep 12, 2017 10:17PM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

When Naru is asked, "Did you have fun making it?" and she answers with a total non-sequitur technical answer about the timer adding replay value--that was the tell right there. Then when the second problem is raised, her impulse is to just revert to the first version instead of trying to make a better game.

Hamansteam2
joined Jan 31, 2013

UMIKO IS PERFECT.

I wish she was my boss at work.

last edited at Sep 12, 2017 10:25PM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

UMIKO IS PERFECT.

And Hazuki knows it.

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joined Mar 22, 2017

I not sure how she will be able to have fun working when she in a situation that
(Sorry for who didn't read lastest chapter but I not going to paint this black)
if you can't get yourself hired you will not be able to follow your dream anymore.
That kind of situation is really painful.
Also you know cheerful attitude can be screwed up a lot by stress aka heavy tension. That is one of the reason why Naru be like that. But her own bitchy side is also one of the reason as well.

If you have reasonable arguments feel free to reply me. Just don't be toxic.

last edited at Sep 12, 2017 10:41PM

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joined Mar 22, 2017

UMIKO IS PERFECT.

I wish she was my boss at work.

If you like airsoft this will be perfect XD

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